June 26, 2025

Geezers Of Gear - FutureTech Featuring ETC's Prodigy Balance

Geezers Of Gear - FutureTech Featuring ETC's Prodigy Balance

Rigging Reinvented

This episode explores how ETC’s Prodigy Balance is transforming stage rigging. Chris and Lacy dive into its innovative safety features, modular design, and the impact on backstage workflows.

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All right, welcome back to
Geezers of Gear Future Tech I'm

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Chris and as always, I'm joined
by Lacey.

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Today we're talking about
something that's well been a bit

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of a headache for stage crews
for what centuries now.

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Rigging specifically how ET, CS
prodigy balance is shaking

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things up.
But before we get into the new

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stuff, let's talk about the old
ways.

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Laci, you ever have to deal with
those old counterweight systems?

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Oh absolutely.
I mean, I didn't do the heavy

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lifting myself, but I've watched
enough crews sweating it out,

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climbing up those terrifyingly
narrow staircases to the loading

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bridge.
And honestly I always thought,

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how is this still a thing?
Like you're up there balancing

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bricks hoping nothing slips.
It's wild.

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Yeah, it's mad, isn't it?
The first mentions of stage

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machinery go back to the 1600s,
and counterweight rigging's been

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around since, what, the 1800s?
And yet the basics haven't

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changed much.
You've got these loading

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bridges, sometimes two or three
stories up, and you're leaning

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over railings, stacking heavy
bricks, just praying you've done

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your maths right so the set
doesn't come crashing down.

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I mean, I remember early in my
career I was backstage at this

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old theater and someone above
dropped a weight.

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I swear it missed me by about a
foot.

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Scare the life out of me.
That's the reality.

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One slip and it's a disaster.
That's exactly it.

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And it's not just the pros,
right schools and students.

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Most places won't even let
students near the rigging

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because it's so risky.
I've seen teachers just flat out

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refuse to use the system.
It's always been one of the most

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dangerous parts of working
backstage and honestly, it's

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kind of amazing it's taken this
long for someone to rethink it.

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Yeah, and it's not just the
heights, it's the whole process,

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climbing up, balancing bricks,
hoping you're not the one who

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gets the math wrong.
It's a bit of a relic, really,

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but you know, there's something
almost artful about running your

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own rigging, bringing battens in
and out by hand.

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It's just, well, the danger's
always been part of the deal.

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Or at least it was.
So let's talk about what's

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actually changed with Prodigy
balance.

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Because honestly when I first
heard about it, I thought OK,

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another fancy gadget.
But this is more than that.

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The self-contained weight stack.
That's a game changer.

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You're not climbing up to load
bricks anymore.

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Everything happens at stage
level.

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You just use these pins to add
or remove weight.

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Kind of like a gym machine.
No more hauling bricks upstairs.

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I mean, that alone would have
saved so many headaches.

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Yeah, and the detachable clue is
brilliant.

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So you've got this drill.
Well, it's a dedicated tool, but

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it's basically a drill and you
use it to raise the clue, which

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disconnects the weight from the
batten.

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You can load the Arbor and the
batten at the same time, right

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there on the ground.
No more leaning over railing, no

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more hoping you don't drop a
brick on someone's head.

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And the bricks themselves,
they're designed to nest

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together with these laser cut
pins that lock them in place.

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It's also much more stable.
And the safety features, there's

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a position sensor built into the
rope block.

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So if the rope moves too fast,
like if something goes wrong and

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the Arbor starts to run away,
the brake kicks in

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automatically.
It slows everything down, so you

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don't get that terrifying
runaway effect.

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I mean, it's almost impossible
to have an out of weight

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situation now, and if you do,
the system's got your back.

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Exactly.
And then there's the modular

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guide wall.
That means you can install the

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whole thing in a fraction of the
time it used to take.

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No more building massive
structures just to hold up the

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rigging.
And if you're retrofitting an

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old space, you can use
compression tubes so you're not

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relying on the building's beams
being in the perfect spot.

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It's just so much more flexible.
I read about a school that

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retrofitted their theater with
Prodigy balance.

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They cut their install time way
down and the staff said it was

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just so much safer.
Plus with ETC site link, they

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can monitor everything remotely,
get alerts, lock out the system

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if needed.
It's like, finally someone's

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thinking about the people
actually using this stuff, not

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just the engineers.
Yeah, and that's something we

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talked about a few episodes back
with ETC site link, how cloud

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based monitoring is changing the
game for lighting and rigging.

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Now you've got that same level
of control and safety for your

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rigging system.
It's all about making things

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safer and easier for everyone,
from the seasoned pros to the

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students just learning the
ropes.

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So let's get into what it's
actually like to use this thing.

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You're at stage level, you've
got your pins, and you just

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adjust the weight stack to match
whatever you're putting on the

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baton.
No more guessing, no more

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climbing.
And the integrated LED lights,

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you can control the color and
brightness from the same

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controller you use for the
hoist.

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It's all right there.
I mean, I remember being on tour

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trying to figure out which line
set was which in the dark and

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just wishing for something like
this would have made my life so

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much easier.
Yeah, and you can monitor the

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line sets remotely, run reports,
even lock out the system so no

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one can mess with it when you're
not around.

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The Prodigy Balance has a 50
foot travel and can lift up to

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one £200 which is pretty
impressive for a manual system.

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And if you need to go heavier
you just pair it with one of

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ETC's automated hoists.
It's all compatible so you get

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the best of both worlds.
Manual control where you want

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it, automation where you need
it.

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And honestly, just being able to
stay on the ground, that's huge.

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I mean, I'm not afraid of
heights, but I don't love the

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idea of balancing bricks 3
stories up.

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I remember my first time working
a show, someone handed me a rope

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and said don't let go.
I had no idea what I was doing

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and I was terrified I'd mess it
up.

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If we'd had something like
Prodigy Balance, I probably

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would have slept a lot better
that night.

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Yeah, it's a massive leap
forward.

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It's safer, it's faster, and
it's just, well, smarter.

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And it's nice to see the
industry finally catching up to

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what people actually need
backstage.

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I think we'll be seeing a lot
more of this kind of tech in the

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next few years.
Absolutely.

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And you know, it's not just
about the gear, it's about

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making the whole process better
for everyone.

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I'm excited to see where it goes
next.

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All right, that's all we've got
for today on ET CS Rigging

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Reinvented.
Thanks for listening everyone.

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Lacey, always a pleasure.
Thanks Chris, and thanks to

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everyone tuning in.
We'll catch you next time on

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Geezers of Gear Future Tech Take
care.

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Oh, La La with music to your
ears.

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Hey, hey, hey, let's.
Go.

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New gear vibes, new tech jive
gearheads unite.

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We keep it live.
Oh yeah, the lunar ski.

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The lunar ski.
We got it here.

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Got it here.