#332 - Bujie Leichtweis - Proud Moments in a Unique Career - LEADING LADIES

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I love teaching.
I will help anybody out.

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You know, we're in this business
because, you know, we love it.

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I could be sitting at a desk job
9:00 to 5:00 and I would

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absolutely hate it.
How lucky am I?

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How lucky is everybody else,
man?

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We get to travel and you know,
you know, I have status on

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Delta.
We stayed in really nice hotels.

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You know, we were with Alice
Cooper.

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I'm like, and people, somebody
called me a roadie one time and

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I'm like, OK, I'm going to
baseball games and sitting in

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the owner suite with Alice.
I'm hanging out with Johnny

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Depp.
You know, I'm doing so many cool

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things.
I work for Alice Cooper.

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If you that's what a roadie is
cool, you know, try to insult

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me.
It's not an insult.

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La La la ladies, the ladies.
Now here's the leading ladies by

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Geezers of Gear on tour.
Maybe she got some stories to

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share.
Now here's the leading ladies by

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the Geezers of Gear.
Hello Bougie, and welcome to the

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Leading Ladies Podcast.
Hi, Sarah, thanks for having me

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on.
I'm so excited to talk to you.

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Honestly, I was just saying to
you just a minute ago that like

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your enthusiasm and your passion
to sort of talk about what you

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do and the emails back and
forth, everything I've been

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reading about you, I've been so
looking forward to having this

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chat.
But really, there's so many

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things I want to ask you.
OK, let's do it.

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Yeah.
Yeah, So what?

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I actually, I love your
background because you've got a

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nice big heart there that says
everything.

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So that's the first thing.
I love that.

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I love having a big heart in the
background.

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Maybe I should get rid of all
these silly lanyards and put a

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big heart at the back.
At least you're not wearing.

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All of them at once.
That's yeah.

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Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.

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So where are you really like?
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Tell our lovely listeners where
exactly you are now.

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And yeah, let's start from
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I'm right where I am now.
I'm in Michigan right now.

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No, I where am I right now?
Nowhere, actually.

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I'm still working.
I work at a metro park.

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I've been there for 7 1/2 years.
They have always worked around

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my schedule.
I'd be got off, you know, home

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for like a month or two.
When Alice wasn't on the road,

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I'd work there.
And if that wasn't enough, I'd

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work at my local coffee shop
because I can't sit, I can't sit

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still.
So I need to just keep going.

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So they've been having a.
Standard.

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So you're in Michigan at the
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Yep, Yep.
I'm heading out tomorrow to Las

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Vegas, to Carlsbad, NM, to hike
the caverns, and then I drive to

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Phoenix because Alice, Alice
Cooper does a a charity event

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every year for his foundation
called Solid Rock, and I love it

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so much.
I believe in this.

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And so I volunteer.
I fly myself out there.

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I rent my own car.
They get me a hotel and I

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volunteer and help them out.
It's amazing.

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What's the charity?
What's the what's that about?

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What's his foundation?
It's called Solid Rock and kids

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from 8 to 18, privileged,
underprivileged can go there.

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They teach you art, dance music.
They have different rooms if you

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want to learn like guitar, bass,
drums.

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They have a state-of-the-art
recording studio or Alice has

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recorded a couple of his albums
there.

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They have a stage.
They do concerts.

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Actually, Jordan Sparks came
from Solid Rock and, and it's so

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every year they have this thing
called Christmas pudding and

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they have it at the celebrity
theater in Phoenix and they have

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different artists playing.
So I usually go and work

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backstage and help out wherever
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This year they want me to be a
driver and drive all the artists

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around, Pick them up from the
airport, drive them to the

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theater, take them back after
sound check, bring them back.

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Wow.
OK.

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And how long does this whole
event it's?

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Just a day.
It's just a day.

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It's yeah.
But I love it so much.

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I love.
I volunteer all my time.

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That's really, really lovely.
And when?

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When does?
When's that?

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It's November 15th.
November 15th And do people like

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already book up for this or is
it like.

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Yep, turn up my ticket.
The celebrity theater is really

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cool because it has a rotating
round stage and each artist will

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play like maybe 1/2 hour and
then they will auction off say

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like Johnny Depp was there a
couple years, he would play his

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guitar and then he'd auction it
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Like I think somebody bought it
for like 35 grand and then he'll

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sign it for them.
So they raised, I think they

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raised over like $1.2 million
last year for their foundation.

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Wow.
Oh.

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My goodness, that's incredible.
Yeah, and they just opened up

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their third solid rock, So I
wish everyone around the country

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could have one of these solid
rock foundations.

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It's pretty amazing.
Oh, I'm actually, I'm going to

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sort of Google it when when we
get off here and just, yeah,

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just check it out.
It's the first time I've heard

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of it so.
It's it's a pretty amazing and

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I'll do anything for Alice and
Cheryl.

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They're like my second parents.
They're.

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Yeah.
So let's, I mean, let's talk.

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Let's talk about that.
So what's the connection and

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what have you been doing with
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OK, so I started, I started in
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I used to own skate shops and
indoor skate parks.

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And my ex-husband said, hey, we
did a skate contest in

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conjunction with the music
festival.

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And I'm like, hey, hook me up,
you know, with who runs it.

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And so he did.
And so my first year, I sat on a

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hill.
They wouldn't let me move.

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And I just sat there and I, you
know, cleaned garbage, you know,

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empty the trash and that was it.
And then at the end of the

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night, I'd put rubber gloves on
and cleaned dressing rooms.

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And then the next year, they
called.

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They said, we want you to go
over to the small stage and help

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run it.
And I'm like, how do you know

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I'd be any good?
They said, we just do.

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So I went over to the little
stage the next year and met my

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mentor, Daryl.
And he fine-tuned me because I'm

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just, like, all over,
everywhere.

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And he just, like, pulled the
leash back on me, OK.

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And like, fine-tuned me, you
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So I did that for seven years
while I was married and Alice

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had come to three of my venues.
So I would, one time I drove

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Alice on the golf cart, you
know, and then I kind of

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befriended a couple of the guys.
And then the third time they

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came, their production manager
wasn't there because he was very

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sick.
And I said, well, I know what he

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does.
I'll take care of everything

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backstage for you guys.
You know, you're at my venue,

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I'm running the venue and I'm
running the backstage for Alice.

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And so that went really well.
So in January of 2000, 2012, my

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Co worker and I quit our jobs.
OK, we were working for the

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promoter but we're like, I can't
like leave until I have another

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job.
So I use the production manager

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for Alice as a reference.
And that was in January and in

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May he called me.
He's like what are you doing?

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I said I'm getting ready for
work.

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He said well I thought you quit
and I'm like well I did but I

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can't leave without another job.
He says I think I might have

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something for you.
I said OK, so he calls me back

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the next day.
He's like you leave in 11 days

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and I'm like what am I going to
go work for Alice Cooper?

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My Co worker wasn't there and
nobody was there.

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I called my parents, nobody was
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I tried to call my sisters.
Nobody answered.

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I went outside and I screamed
and I'm like, I'm going to leave

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in 11 days and go work for Alice
Cooper because touring was my

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dream.
So after after I volunteered for

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seven years, I got divorced and
the promoter hired me on full

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time.
And so I learned the whole

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business end of it, you know,
doing, putting in offers and

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many contracts and riders,
sending it back, advancing the

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show and then running it.
And then I'm like, you know

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what?
I want to live my dream.

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I want to, I want to work my ass
off.

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I want to wake up every day in a
different city and love what I

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do.
That's amazing.

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And and So what was your role
with Alice?

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Production assistant but my dad
was golfing with Alice one day

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and he's told my dad that I'm
the glue that held everything

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together.
I love the story that my dad was

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playing golf with Alice Cooper,
You know, just just as you do.

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You know, my dad does not care
about famous people.

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He's like 80 something, you
know, But he golfed with Alice

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and he had a picture with him
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And man, he blew that sucker up.
He took it to his Country Club

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and he's like showing everybody
he was so proud of it.

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But so that's how I hooked up
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And I was only supposed to be
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half.
Well, Alice's manager shop liked

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me and he kept me on.
He's and you know, I had never

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toured before, you know, but I,
I had run venues for seven

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years.
So I, I knew what, you know,

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what they did and what happened.
I'm like, OK, bring it on.

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I always like leap before I
look, you know, because I will

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be fine.
I just jump in and do it and

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don't worry about consequences.
And that's actually that could

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bring us to how we were
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Again, it's David Davidian, like
the most amazing human that I've

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never met, but he's just
amazing.

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And so you had.
Yeah, you, you, you was working

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with him for all these years as
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Then yeah, he was the 3rd tour
manager when I was out with

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Alice, right?
So he's, he's still with him.

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I love David.
I just saw him about a month

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ago.
But I had like, go ahead.

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No, no, you go.
I had like, I don't know, I

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might be exaggerating like 50
job titles, you know, I had all

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kinds of lists of first one in,
last one out every day.

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If I had a 5 minute break, you
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be amazing.
And I love doing laundry because

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everybody paid me to do their
laundry, but I could get away

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from the chaos for a little bit.
I took my, I call it my moment

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of silence when everything was
just over overwhelming and I

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just went into the laundry room
for a couple minutes and just

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chilled out.
Nobody knew where I was.

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You know what?
I think that is great.

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I've never looked at it that
way.

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That for me, I was like, oh,
doing it other people's laundry.

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Like, no thanks.
I don't like doing my own.

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But yeah, couple of minutes of
sanity and quiet and what?

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Yeah, brilliant.
And I take it as well because I

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want to jump to something is
that you got killed every day or

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every every gig on stage.
I.

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Love that I want to be killed
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So much fun.
The first time I officially met

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Alice when I started working for
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You know, because I had met him
a couple times before.

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He shook my hand.
He said three things.

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You'll get paid, you'll see the
world and you'll get stitches.

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And I'm like, OK, cool.
And then he said everybody,

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everybody that works for him
except David is in the show.

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And I'm like, this is going to
be super cool.

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So I played the camper when he
did A Man Behind the Mask, and

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it was so much fun.
And I'd go out with a little

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backpack and a map and a hat and
I'd pretend like I was a camper

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looking for Camp Crystal Lake.
And he'd point me to the front

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of the stage.
And then Jason would come and it

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depends on who played him.
One guy would either grab me and

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and flip me over his shoulder
and I'd go off kicking and

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screaming.
And then I came out with a

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Or another guy, he was a really

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would drag me off and I said,
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That was a lot of fun.

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And then we changed up the skit
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and pretend we were tourists.
Then I'd go up the steps and

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Jason would sneak up behind me
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and cut my throat and I had a
little ball of blood and a white

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shirt on.
So when he would slice me, I'd

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grab the knife and squeeze the
ball and blood would just sit

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down and then I'd fall, you
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I got hurt so bad.
I had such a bad rug burn.

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I had like 6 band aids on and
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I've knocked the lights.
I've almost knocked myself out.

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Yeah, it was so much fun.
And he come, Alice comes up to

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me.
He's like booj to make it look

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more real.
You and Chris go practice.

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So we had to practice having him
murder me.

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But I just think, I mean, how
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I mean, it's cool anyway being
part of a tour and you know, if

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you've got that 5 minutes at the
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if you can, whatever, because
that's why you do it.

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You know, you're like, Oh my
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you're not, you know, your
production side, sometimes you

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don't get a chance to go out and
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Whatever.
And but to be part of the of the

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gig.
Like, that was pretty cool.

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I thought I'd be really nervous,
but being on stage with like

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thousands of people, I'm like,
this is really cool, you know,

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because I knew a lot of people
in the front rows and you don't

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really notice them.
But yeah, it was pretty awesome.

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And why?
I mean, why do you think so?

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If Alice did that?
Was it to bring the crew all

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together like you know that you
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He's just those theatrical and
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It's everybody in the show
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Because I just think I said when
Amber told me, I was like, Oh my

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God, that that's like a dream.
Like, you know, being part of

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the behind the scenes and then
you get to play dead every night

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like.
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We had a tour that had the toy
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there in the toy box on stage.
I think we were handing him

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props or something like that.
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So I watched the show every
night, and I would do video when

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Glenn did his drum solo.
I'd hurry up, run backstage, do

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my skit, come back.
And then during school's out, I

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had to go get the balloon
winner.

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And in between all this, I had
to tear down dressing rooms and

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change outfits.
It was very chaotic, so.

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But it was so much fun.
I loved working with Alice.

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Yeah, really.
I mean, I said I've I've heard

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only great things.
You know, David was on the Gears

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of Gear podcast and he was
talking to Marcel and he was

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also saying like how great it is
working for Alice and like you 2

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ladies now.
Like he just seems just a

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really, like you said,
theatrical with it, but just

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including, including the crew,
you know, in this great, yeah,

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this great experience.
Like, I think it's brilliant.

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Yeah, and Alice and Cheryl and
I, we'd have family movie night,

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we'd go see any and everything.
And the first time I when I

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tried to pay, he's like, you're
not paying.

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He's like, you're we're on the
road.

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You're my kid.
You're not paying.

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And I'm like, oh, OK.
And people would, you know, he,

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Alice would give him the credit
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And then people would look up
and they look down at the car

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and look back up at Alice.
And they'd look at me and I'm

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like, you know, And then we'd
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There'd be a bunch of people
waiting for him.

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Yeah.
It was can you like, but what I

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like about what he said, like,
you know, I tried to pay like I,

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you know, like you said before,
it doesn't matter if you know if

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you're rich, famous, whatever,
but like the fact that you tried

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to pay as well, he probably
loved you even more for that,

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you know.
I don't, I don't know.

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But that was I'm like, OK.
And then I on tour, I had dark

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hair and everybody would come up
to me and go, are you calico?

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Are you calico?
I get it like every single

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night.
And I told Alice he's like, just

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just tell him you're my kid.
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would throw the first pitch out
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So we were in Cincinnati and
Cheryl and I went on the field.

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I didn't know I was going to go
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Then I had my die yuppie scum,
you know, tank top on and, and

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my photo of Cheryl.
And I ended up in Getty Images

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saying that it was Alice
Cooper's wife, Cheryl, and his

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daughter, Calico.
So Calico calls me.

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She said OK, you're part of the
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So that's so funny.
Yeah, so I've had some really

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cool times with Alice and
Cheryl.

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Yeah, I mean, that's it is it's
living like you said you've you

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want, you knew what you wanted
to do, you know, and to live

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your dream.
And I said to you before, you

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know, a lot of this is down to
you, who you are as a person.

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But it is also about luck as
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And you worked hard seven years,
you know, working at the

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festival, cleaning from the
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You know, they can see that
you're a worker.

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So, you know, it's you that got
yourself there, but at the same

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time the timing was perfect as
well, you know?

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Yeah, it was, you know, I've
wanted to like mow grass since I

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was like 9 years old.
I love working.

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And when I had my skate shops
and skate parks, we were 24/7.

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That's all I know is work.
You know, my, my parents are

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very hard workers.
That's all I know.

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I love working.
I love manual labor, you know,

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and, and when I started in this
business I started, you couldn't

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get any lower than where I was.
And, you know, I worked really

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hard.
I love chaos.

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I like thrive, you know, bring
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I just thrive when chaos and you
know, you always have to be one

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step ahead of everybody.
And I'm here with my little

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clipboard and radio running
around, you know?

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Yeah, Well, that's that's kind
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That's your voice.
You've said before like that

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organization is the key in this.
Business.

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And I mean what are your like go
to systems or habits for keeping

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that chaos under control?
I have a lot of alarms set on my

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phone.
Yeah, I write everything down,

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you know?
I write everything down.

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I don't like looking at my
phone.

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You know, I have, you know, we
had our tour book.

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You know, most people use master
tour, but we have a tour book

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and I wrote everything down.
I have a sheet of everything.

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They're all my notes for today,
what I need to do.

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OK, there's my list.
Every every night.

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Every morning.
Yeah, I crossed it off.

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I don't want to depend on phones
because what if my phone dies?

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I'm screwed, you know.
It doesn't click in my brain.

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Yeah, if I write it down and I
see it, I'll remember.

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So I remember stuff, but I set
alarms also.

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And it's just, you know, after
doing it for so many years, it's

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just routine, you know?
But I have a lot of alarms, so

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yeah.
So just throughout the day, you

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know, as an example, when you're
on tour, like run through a day

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in the life of you.
Oh gosh, OK, first one in, you

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know, I get up in the morning,
brush my teeth, I'm just, I go

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into the venue, I have to look
around because I have to put up

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all the signs where everybody's
going, you know, like catering

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this way and every, but when
they start rolling in, they're

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like Boogie, where's the
bathroom horse catering, you

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know, So I put all the signs up
and then and then the cases to

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roll in and then I set up the
production office.

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And while I'm doing that, I'm
dealing with the runner.

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And because I have to do bus
stop as soon as I get up, I made

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a grocery shopping list that
like separates all the pops, the

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meats, you know, the chips and
stuff.

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So it's very organized.
I put one on each bus and the

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guys were marked on what they
want.

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And then I'll go through, I knew
what everybody liked and

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everybody wanted on all four
buses.

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So as I'm setting up the
production office, the runners

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coming in and I'm giving them
the lists and then the rest of

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the of the dressing room cases
roll in.

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So then I have to set those up
and then I have to worry about

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ticketing and where are my
towels and you know, and then I

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have to set up Alice's dressing
room and deal with everything

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else, you know, make sure
catering's fine.

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And then, you know, if I need
the runner so they can take the

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bus drivers back to the hotel
and then they go out shopping

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and then when they get back, I
have to go on all the buses and

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put everything away.
And while I'm setting up the

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dressing rooms, I'm getting
ready, you know, I'm plug the

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hair, the the flat irons.
And so I'm just doing my hair as

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I'm setting up all the dressing
rooms.

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And then I go through and I do
the band's laundry also and the

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bus drivers like, hey, can you
wash my sheets?

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So I do those.
Then I have to find out where

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the meet and greet room is, you
know, and then I have to make

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notes, you know, for everybody
to put in their envelopes.

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And so I'm just super busy all
day.

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And then I would do the stage
tours and there'd be like, I

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don't know, 50 to 100 people.
And then, you know, so I do the

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stage tours and then the band
rolls in.

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They're like boogie, boogie,
boogie.

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I need this.
Do my hair, rub my back.

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Where's this?
You know, I had a whole system

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down for those guys.
They got very spoiled.

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So when they would come in, you
know, I'd have all kinds of

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stuff to do.
And then David would do his his

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little day sheet for the day and
I'd proofread it for him.

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Then I'd have to do all the
ticketing and stuff the

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envelope, send him to the box
office.

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And then I had to get ready for
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Then I would go out and do
video.

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I had to get after show food for
everybody.

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So I have to take everybody's
orders, give them to the runner,

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and I could do video.
Then I'd be in the show tearing

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down dressing rooms during the
show, come back, do video, go

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back after the show.
I had to finish tearing down

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dressing rooms, bring all the
after show food to the buses, do

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the meet and greets.
I had a paid VIP, regular VIP,

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and a band meet and greet.
So I'm doing like all this after

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the show, you know, everything's
coming in all at once, so.

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Wow, seriously.
Well, that is a really intense

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day.
Like I can visualize all all of

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that.
I can visualize.

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And I mean, how do you stay cool
and calm?

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I know you said about
organization, but for me, when

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you come in to a venue and
everyone like you, you know, you

444
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,360
need that time just as you know,
because often the plans maybe

445
00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,160
don't match up with what you
want.

446
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,320
You know, Alice, Alice's room.
Actually, no, it shouldn't be

447
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,200
that far away.
I need it closer.

448
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,160
So you're sorting things around,
but then you've got the crew

449
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,800
arriving and they're like, Fuji,
where's this?

450
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,920
Where's that?
Where's this?

451
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840
Yeah, yeah.
How do you stay just like God?

452
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,440
No, just come.
You have to, you know, yeah, I

453
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,920
have to say, this business is
not for the week.

454
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,640
It's not if you're, you know,
needing to do your hair and

455
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,320
makeup and stuff like that.
It's, it's this is not a

456
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:35,000
glamorous job.
But if you, you know, you things

457
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,680
are going to happen, just deal
with that.

458
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,840
It's not going to just because,
you know, oh, we have it this

459
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,480
time, this time, this time,
things happen.

460
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,640
Stuff changes.
You have to just deal with it,

461
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,480
you know, and if you're all
frantic, it trickles down to

462
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,520
everybody else.
And then you'd get all frazzled

463
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,640
in and it ruins your day.
You just so I take my moment of

464
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,440
silence when things get chaotic
and I just do it, you know, I, I

465
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,880
don't know.
I just do it, you know, and you

466
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,760
know, I just swear under my
breath and everybody leave me

467
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:11,200
alone sometimes, you know, so
but it you can't get frazzled,

468
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,320
especially like when I would run
my venues.

469
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,920
If I'm if I'm running it and all
my workers see me frazzled,

470
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,400
they're going to get like that.
We're going to have a horrible

471
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,920
day.
I'm just like really nice and

472
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,400
chill.
OK, let's do this, let's do

473
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,760
this.
If something happens, OK, let's

474
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,760
fix it.
Let's you know you just have.

475
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:32,520
To stay I, I've worked with many
people and certain, let's say

476
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,160
they're not as calm and
collective and it's certainly it

477
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,040
has an effect, you know,
especially wake up in the

478
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,640
morning and you're asking
questions and you know, they're

479
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,240
like, leave me alone.
Let's, you know, whatever,

480
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,880
you're OK, you know, it's, it's
not, you know, for whatever

481
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,200
reason, they're stressed as
well.

482
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,680
But I just came back from a tour
and there was one lady.

483
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,560
But just like you, everyone's
coming to her with all different

484
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,680
things and she's just so calm,
so collective, and it makes a

485
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,760
difference on everybody else.
Yeah, You know, I love my job.

486
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,720
I love what I do.
Like I said, I thrive in chaos.

487
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,080
I'm like, OK, what do you need?
What do you need?

488
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,720
OK, let's do this, let's do
that.

489
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,000
You know, I've been, I've worked
with people that, you know, they

490
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,360
just get so frazzled and they're
kind of mean and they think they

491
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,280
know what they're doing and they
haven't been in the business

492
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,880
long.
That makes for a really crappy

493
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,080
day.
You know what?

494
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,680
I love what I do.
The moment it turns into a job,

495
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,280
I need to get out.
And I look at a lot of these

496
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320
people and go, you need to find
a different career because if

497
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,920
you're not happy, you know, get
out.

498
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,520
Yeah.
You know, I think.

499
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,600
It's, I mean, that's the same
with with any kind of job, like

500
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840
any of any jobs.
I always feel like if, if your

501
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,360
time, if you, if you're not
waking up and you're happy, it's

502
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:51,440
time to move on.
But sad thing is, it's often

503
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,840
scary for people to move on
because this is all they know.

504
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,320
You know, whether it's the
touring world, whether it's in

505
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,560
the banking system, what
whatever job you've found

506
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:05,040
yourself in, it could be very
scary to move out from it.

507
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,920
But there are a lot of people
you look at and you're like, you

508
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,440
really shouldn't be doing this
anymore.

509
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,360
I know you, you clearly are not
enjoying it.

510
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:22,840
And the the moaniness.
Yeah, it's a lot, and I probably

511
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,200
shouldn't say this, and a lot of
people might get mad at me, but

512
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,080
it's the younger kids who come
in thinking they know this

513
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,520
business and they have the
attitudes.

514
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,000
I'm like, dude, there's no
reason for attitudes.

515
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000
You don't know everything.
I mean, I've been doing this for

516
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,680
20, you know, 22 years, you
know, and then you just like

517
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,240
calling kill him with kindness
and, and you come up to him, go,

518
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,760
what can I help you with?
You know, let's okay, you know,

519
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,600
and you be like extra nice to
them and then they go, OK, maybe

520
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520
I shouldn't be such a bitch, you
know, or.

521
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,680
And some people when they come
in, let's say younger or

522
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,600
whatever, but they feel like
they have to prove something.

523
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,640
So sometimes the attitude comes
across this way.

524
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,400
You know, it comes across as
harsh, as mean, as whatever, but

525
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,200
it's just that they're trying to
establish, establish themselves.

526
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,600
But actually being nice and
learning from others is really

527
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,160
the best way to go about it.
Yeah, and you know what?

528
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280
I love teaching.
I will help anybody out.

529
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,760
You know, we're in this business
because, you know, we love it.

530
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,160
I could be sitting at a desk job
9:00 to 5:00 and I would

531
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,240
absolutely hate it.
How lucky am I?

532
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,800
How lucky is everybody else,
man, we get to travel and you

533
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,680
know, you know, I have status on
Delta.

534
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,760
We stayed in really nice hotels.
You know, we were with Alice

535
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,480
Cooper.
I'm like, and people, somebody

536
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,200
called me a roadie one time and
I'm like, OK, you know, hang,

537
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,880
I've got golden status on, you
know, Delta.

538
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,920
I'm staying in nice hotels.
I'm going to baseball games and

539
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,600
sitting in the owner suite with
Alice.

540
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,000
I'm hanging out with Johnny
Depp.

541
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,040
You know, I'm doing so many cool
things.

542
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,400
I work for Alice Cooper.
If you that's what a roadie is

543
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,920
cool, you know, try to insult
me.

544
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,640
It's not an insult.
It's not an insult.

545
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,840
That's a good huge compound.
Yeah, but yeah, I know.

546
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,200
But you know, we're in a fun
business.

547
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,720
We don't have the 9:00 to 5:00,
we're not sitting behind a desk

548
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,600
all day.
We get to travel and see the

549
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,760
world.
Y'all should be grateful for

550
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680
that instead of having like an
attitude and being bitchy about

551
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,480
stuff.
You know?

552
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,400
It could be a lot worse.
This is the life we chose, you

553
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,040
know.
Be happy doing your job.

554
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,400
I mean, even for me now that
this is, this is more, well,

555
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,600
this is this is like the main
job now, you know, and it is

556
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,360
here at my little desk.
But I do like this year I was

557
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
away for two months on a tour
that was wonderful.

558
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,960
I still go away and do.
And I missed it, you know, I

559
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,400
missed being on the road part of
the crew again.

560
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,080
I know you're going.
I think you're going to Las

561
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Vegas, but you're going
tomorrow, aren't you?

562
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,080
Yes.
Yeah, so I'm in Vegas, but for

563
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480
LDI this year.
Oh yeah?

564
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,960
When is that?
Yeah, So, yeah, that's on.

565
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,200
I arrive, I think it's the 3rd,
3rd of December I arrive.

566
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,280
So we're going to miss each
other, but that's a shame.

567
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,640
But just do the same as that,
you know?

568
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320
Like I've been home here now.
And don't get me wrong, I live

569
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,840
in Crete, I live in Greece.
I live in a beautiful place.

570
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880
I do lots of walking and I I
love my life here.

571
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,680
But I also do love going on tour
still, you know, right.

572
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,680
I don't, I'm at the, the time in
my life where I don't want to do

573
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240
it full time.
I've never really been

574
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,200
necessarily a full time person
tour after tour after tour.

575
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,600
But after COVID, there wasn't, I
didn't, I didn't have any work.

576
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,400
And I thought, no, this is my
life here.

577
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,880
You know, I got married and I
thought, this is my lifestyle

578
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120
here.
And then I was like, no, I

579
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,440
missed it.
Right.

580
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Yeah, yeah.
You know, and it's always going

581
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,000
to be in me.
Yeah, yeah.

582
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,480
When you're on the road and then
you're, you know, you're, you're

583
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,640
sick of everybody.
You've been with him for months

584
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,560
and months.
You want to go home and then two

585
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,520
weeks later you're like, you
missed the road.

586
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,760
I want to go back, you know, and
it's just this, the road life is

587
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,040
not for everyone, but it's for
me on this like, you know, like

588
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,880
carefree little nomad gypsy.
You know, I love being on the

589
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,520
road.
I love living out of a suitcase.

590
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,480
You know, when I would get home
I would stay at my parents house

591
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,480
because when we run the Mötley
Crüe tour, like one year I was

592
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,640
gone nine months out of the year
and I had a little house and my

593
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,840
mom's like why are you there?
Just put everything in storage

594
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,080
and come back and stay with us.
I said OK, so I was home for

595
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,600
like a month and I still living
out of my suitcase, still

596
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,320
pretending like I was on the
tour bus and after two weeks my

597
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,240
dad's like you're going to put
that suitcase away And I'm like,

598
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,080
no, I'm used to living out of a
suitcase.

599
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,120
You know I still sign of do that
stuff.

600
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080
You know I always have like 1
suitcase like half packed with

601
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,320
stuff you know and done.
See, I am, I am the opposite

602
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,680
that even if I arrive in a hotel
and we've got one or well, two

603
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200
nights, we've got two nights in
a hotel when we're on on the

604
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,040
road, I can guarantee as soon as
we walk in, I've unpacked

605
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,640
everything.
Yeah, I'm just an I'm an

606
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000
unpacker.
I have to unpack everything.

607
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,360
I can be at a hotel for 5
minutes.

608
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,120
It looks like a tornado went
through there.

609
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,440
Oh, no, it has to be like, it
has to go be in different all

610
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,120
little places.
I have to have everything ready.

611
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,360
And then I've normally got, you
know, like my work clothes ready

612
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,280
for the like, you know, in three
days time.

613
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,800
Like I'm like set out like I'm
like, yeah.

614
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,560
And then the night before
obviously packing up, then I

615
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,240
pack it all back away again and
have all my work colleagues like

616
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760
you do that every time.
But then I said every time,

617
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,320
every time I want to I want to
like unpack.

618
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Well, I'm kind of like organized
chaos, you know, I know where

619
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,040
everything is, but you give me
the room, I'm going to spread

620
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,200
out and use every inch of that,
you know?

621
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,160
But it's organized chaos, so.
Yeah, so.

622
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,840
I, I yeah, that's what was
slightly different, different on

623
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880
that one.
Organized chaos is still good.

624
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760
Yeah.
And I was going to say you

625
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,320
mentioned this.
This one really got me, by the

626
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,040
way.
So like we've obviously with

627
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,640
strange and funny stories of I'm
sure you have loads every day

628
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,480
something's happened.
But one of the things you put

629
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,240
was you mentioned a hole in a
private plane.

630
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,040
We.
Were on tour with Mötley Crüe

631
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,680
and so we get to the airport.
We have a private plane.

632
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:39,000
They load all the gear on the
plane and and then there's a

633
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480
hole in the plane and Alice is
like, I'm not flying on the

634
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,880
plane.
So they're trying to fix and

635
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,520
they're like, no, we're not
getting on the plane.

636
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,240
If you try to fix it, we need a
new plane.

637
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:52,040
So we were in our tour bus on
the tarmac for like 7 hours or

638
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240
something.
We had pizzas delivered there,

639
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240
you can know.
And then another plane finally

640
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,160
came, unloaded all the gear off
the one plane, loaded it onto

641
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040
another one.
We got to our destination like

642
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,120
an hour before Showtime and just
grabbed, you know, the guys

643
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,600
grabbed all the instruments and
did a show without all of

644
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,800
Alice's theatric stuff.
No, she actually had a show, a

645
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520
gig to go to.
Yes, yeah, Yep.

646
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480
Oh, you didn't feel very, like
stressed out at the fact that,

647
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,840
you know, you was like running
really late.

648
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,840
Yeah, I'm like, OK, well, you
know that it got done like if I

649
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,040
don't remember where we were,
but yeah, like an hour before

650
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,199
Showtime, we got there and the
show went off great.

651
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:41,480
Do you know it?
That is something that always

652
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,440
surprises me when you could be
so far behind, you know, even

653
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239
you're stuck in traffic,
whatever, you know, you're a

654
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,120
longer, longer, the destination
between A&B is longer and

655
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,639
there's traffic and there's this
and there's been problems in

656
00:34:56,639 --> 00:35:01,640
loadout and, and there it is if
it's even if it's 20 minutes

657
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:07,360
before it's ready.
But yeah, I it still blows my

658
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,200
mind how everybody comes
together and there and there we

659
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,080
have it.
There's the show.

660
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,920
I've never touched wood.
I've never been part of anything

661
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:21,760
that was delayed or cancelled
due to, you know, something

662
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,560
that's happened within the crew,
right?

663
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,600
The only thing once had a venue
was a venue had to cancel

664
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,800
because the ceiling started
started started falling, falling

665
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,160
in.
I was like OK, so we will have

666
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,840
to.
Yeah.

667
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,160
But, you know, that's that's
that's my my, my most dramatic

668
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,840
thing.
What would be your strangest or

669
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,800
funniest thing you've ever had
to handle backstage?

670
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,760
So or yeah.
I don't know.

671
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,520
There's I don't.
Know so many?

672
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:00,120
I, I, I, I don't really know,
you know, I'd, yeah.

673
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Well, I mean.
I couldn't answer it, you know,

674
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,320
You know we would.
You know, there was a lot of

675
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,560
injuries on tour.
You know, those were all like

676
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,640
funny because we had our props
guy Pat, who was hurt all the

677
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,480
time and you don't have time for
band aids.

678
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,480
So he would have like gas tape
all over him and they're like,

679
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,000
yes, you do, you know, And then
Alice would do only women bleed.

680
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,520
And then he had a metal trash
can and he kicked him at whack

681
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,520
Pat in the shins and he's on,
you know, on stage trying to

682
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,720
play and just where's gaff tape,
you know, putting that on and,

683
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,600
you know, just like little
things like that.

684
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,240
Like, I think Kyler, Alice's
assistant, Alice, stabbed him

685
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,640
with the sword because he uses a
real sword.

686
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,760
You know, a lot of, like, little
things like that happened and,

687
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,840
you know, and you're just he's
like, Boogie, I need a bad day.

688
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Boogie, I need this, you know,
and.

689
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,480
Yeah.
How did you get your stitches?

690
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,520
You said that you got stitches
within the first.

691
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,360
How did you get yours?
I have never had surgery before.

692
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,200
So I started with Alice in June
of 2012.

693
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,480
And in December of 2012, I got
stitches.

694
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,280
We were working on LA, and LA is
crazy busy, like 150 guests, all

695
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,120
kinds of passes, parking, you
know, famous people are coming

696
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,240
out.
And I kept asking the tour

697
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:26,080
manager, can we start working on
LA like the week or two before?

698
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:26,880
Yeah.
OK.

699
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,680
Didn't work on it.
Didn't work.

700
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,800
Hey, man, can we start working
on this?

701
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,320
Yeah.
Yeah.

702
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,600
OK.
So like the day before we were

703
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,760
in Reno and I said, can we
please start working on the

704
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,280
guest list?
And he's like, OK And then all

705
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,280
of a sudden I'm like crap, it's
school's out song, the last song

706
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,880
because I had to go get the
balloon winner because I'd bring

707
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,920
them on stage and they would
throw those like massive

708
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000
balloons out.
And I'm like, oh, it was halfway

709
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,520
through the song.
I ran out from backstage where

710
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,920
it was really well lit to the
theater where it was so dark.

711
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,760
And I ran out there and there
was 2 like steps that were like

712
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,840
this wide and I didn't see them.
And I went and I'm like,

713
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,680
something just happened.
I rolled my ankle so hard that

714
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,800
my bones like ripped the sheath
and tore my tendons.

715
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,960
But the worst part was I had to
work 10 days on my foot like

716
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,520
that because we had our busiest
shows.

717
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,800
So I worked with that for 10
days.

718
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,720
It hurts so bad in LA, up and
down stairs.

719
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,680
And we were in San Francisco and
I'm laying in bed with ice on it

720
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,840
and my leg up and Tommy, our
guitar player, calls.

721
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960
He's like booj.
And you just go to the store For

722
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,880
me.
It's coming up both ends.

723
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,600
And I'm like, OK.
So I had to get up, go to the

724
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,240
store to get stuff for him.
And then we had a day off and we

725
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,280
were going to do the Redwood
forest and I couldn't walk.

726
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,800
I sat in the car and the guys
took pictures for me.

727
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,400
And then as soon as I got home,
I went to my doctor, I gotten

728
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,200
put in a boot and had surgery.
And that was December 26th.

729
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Oh my goodness, so you so you
didn't.

730
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,000
You wasn't even in a boot.
For this, no, you just kept.

731
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,520
On working like no.
Yeah.

732
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,080
And so my doctor, I said
whatever do.

733
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,080
You don't put me in a cast and I
wake up and I'm wearing at him.

734
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,840
I'm like, I'm in a cast.
And I was in a cast for three

735
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,600
months, and then I got cleared.
We had a show in Switzerland.

736
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:37,960
Was it Switzerland?
Yeah.

737
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:43,000
And it was kind of cool because
my ankle was almost healed.

738
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,840
But I got the wheelchair in the
airport.

739
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,720
I got special, you know,
security.

740
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,560
They gave me extras, you know,
leg room on the plane.

741
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,360
And then I went out to dinner
with Alice and Kyler, and Alice

742
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,280
is like, let me see your scar.
And so I showed him.

743
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,800
He's like, that's it.
I'm like I said, I'm sorry my

744
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,320
doctor did such a good job and
he's like, that's nothing, you

745
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120
know, And I said, do you told me
I'd get stitched with that?

746
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,400
That's.
Crazy to still, I thought at

747
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,120
least you would have had, you
know, a boot or something to

748
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,960
keep it.
You know he's working on it like

749
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,240
anything.
You when you're on the road, you

750
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,320
get hurt.
You don't call in sick.

751
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:27,520
You're, I've had food poisoning,
you know, I had this, people get

752
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,160
hurt.
We can't call in sick.

753
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,840
If you're not feeling good and
you're running to the bathroom,

754
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,600
you know, that's just what you
do.

755
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,920
If you go lay down in your bunk
for like 1/2 hour, but you don't

756
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,880
call in sick.
You don't have that privilege.

757
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,440
No, you don't.
Yeah, so I probably did more

758
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,960
damage, but I had work to do.
Yeah.

759
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,800
So, yeah, well.
Yeah, bravo to you for, you

760
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,680
know, just keeping, keeping
going.

761
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:55,880
I mean, I can't.
I couldn't.

762
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,760
The pain must have been
horrific.

763
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,680
It was it was horrible. 10 Yeah,
it was horrible.

764
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,840
But like, you know, we all do
that.

765
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,480
You.
Know nobody gets the deal.

766
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,320
No, no, everybody.
'S I would say I mean touring.

767
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:15,080
Could some, I mean, touring like
that, I mean, even on a good

768
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,320
day, touring can be very, very
draining.

769
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960
You know, we put a lot of hours
into it.

770
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,080
I mean, how do you keep your
energy and how do you keep like,

771
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,640
your sanity while managing like
so many parts to your day?

772
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,520
Like, how do you keep your
energies up?

773
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Is it food?
Is it, you know, like exercise

774
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,840
mentally?
It's no, I try to eat very

775
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,120
healthy, but the only once in
the entire time I was with Alice

776
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,760
did I ever sit down in catering.
I'd grab like little cups of

777
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,080
stuff and snack and I'm running
around and when I'm not, not the

778
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,760
crew.
They had a juicer, so I would

779
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:58,320
juice a lot, you know, And if I
stopped, I crashed.

780
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,480
So I never stopped.
I never stopped even on a day

781
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,840
off, you know, people were like
sleeping and I'm like, Nope, I'm

782
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,680
just going to stay awake because
if I crash, I'm going to crash

783
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,480
hard.
So it's, it's, it's, it's easy

784
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,520
and not easy to eat healthy on
the road.

785
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,520
But you know, like when you keep
going, it's easy to grab a bag

786
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,160
of chips and like munch on it
and stuff like that.

787
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:26,160
But I just eaten on the go and
just just kept going.

788
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,240
And I don't do coffee.
I don't, I don't drink coffee, I

789
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,760
don't drink pop.
I don't eat meat, I don't smoke,

790
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,400
I don't do drugs, I don't do
anything.

791
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,520
I just, I'm like the little
Energizer Bunny actually can

792
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,000
just keep going.
But I think sometimes, I mean, I

793
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,880
had, I had one tour a couple of
years back off longer now six

794
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,040
years.
And well, I actually had, I had

795
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,760
like it was like a, it was a two
year period where I had, I

796
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,960
wasn't drinking nothing.
So two years of just and it was

797
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,720
the best I'd ever felt on the
tour.

798
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,840
It was the best I'd ever felt.
I woke up, yeah, I was tired,

799
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,800
but my mind was clear.
Everything was like completely

800
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,800
clear.
And since then, I've always

801
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,480
stuck to really like a no
drinking when on tour, OK,

802
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,440
different.
If you're going out for the for

803
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,160
a meal or something, you know,
on your days off, then yeah, OK,

804
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,000
I'll have a glass.
But always in bed early enough,

805
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,040
you know, whatever you can do
before you get up at 5:00 the

806
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,520
next day or whatever.
But I can't eat when I'm, when

807
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,440
I'm working, same as you.
I pick at things but I try not

808
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,960
to pick.
But I could not sit down and

809
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640
physically eat, it would just
crush me.

810
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,640
Yeah, and you just.
Crashed.

811
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,440
Yep.
So and then on my days off,

812
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,240
Cheryl and I would go to the gym
and work out.

813
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,200
That's good.
Yeah.

814
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,920
So we would do that because
she's a she's a professional

815
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000
ballerina.
She's an amazing, amazing shape.

816
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,480
She's a beautiful woman, you
know, but we would work out

817
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000
together and, you know, during
the day, during a work day, I

818
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,640
get ton of exercise and pushing
cases walking on the Mötley Crüe

819
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,600
tour.
I think I averaged 15 miles a

820
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:15,640
day, you know, so, but it, it,
it takes a lot out of you by

821
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,840
the, at the beginning of the
tour, you know, I'd come in

822
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,120
there and the guys are like, oh,
Boo, do you look great?

823
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,760
Did you have work done?
I'm like, no, I just got rest.

824
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,840
And by the end of the tour you
look like crap, you know,

825
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,760
because you're so overly tired.
You're just physically and

826
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,320
emotionally and mentally
drained, you know, So I take, I

827
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,400
see pictures from the beginning
and the end of the tour and I'm

828
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,760
like, Oh my gosh, what a what a
change.

829
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,000
Actually that's I should do that
next time.

830
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, you've worked

831
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,960
alongside some, I mean, really
big personalities.

832
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,880
That's not just artists, that's
people within the crew and

833
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,480
everyone in between, you know,
locals that you meet on the

834
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,520
road.
Like what have you learnt about

835
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,920
working with all kinds of people
and again under pressure and

836
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,640
what have you taken from meeting
so many people from around the

837
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,440
world?
I've learned that there are a

838
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,400
lot of really good people and a
lot of really bad people, and I

839
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,360
actually like meeting the bad
people because it makes me not

840
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,440
want to be like them and it
makes me that much nicer.

841
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,960
I see crappy people treating
people like crap.

842
00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,520
And I'm like, I don't want to be
like that, you know?

843
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,600
So it's just like, you have no
right to treat that person like

844
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,720
that, you know?
So it makes me be a better

845
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,760
person.
Do you know what?

846
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,880
I 100% agree with that.
Like 100.

847
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,880
When I see nasty people, I'm
like, I never want to be like

848
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,840
that.
Yeah, and I go behind them.

849
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Yeah, I go behind, you know,
these nasty people and apologize

850
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,840
to people like at the hotels and
at the venues.

851
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:59,480
I would tell people, you know,
come to me, you know, and I'll

852
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,680
help you out.
You know, I, I walk in the when

853
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,240
as soon as you walk in and meet
somebody that will set your

854
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:08,160
whole day, Yeah, whether you're
going to have a good day, you're

855
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,680
going to have a bad day.
So I walk in with a, you know, a

856
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,720
good attitude.
And if I have a nice person, I

857
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,080
know we're going to have a good
day.

858
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,360
So.
And of course, travelling around

859
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,320
the world, you know, we don't
speak every language possible,

860
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,960
but you know, it comes across
obviously great, the sign hand

861
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,680
language and all the rest of it.
But your eyes, where you smile,

862
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,000
the way you are with people,
that for me is certainly key to

863
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,360
bring in, especially when you're
working with local staff.

864
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,000
You know, maybe they don't
understand that, you know,

865
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,320
you've been doing this for nine
months or however long.

866
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,440
This could be the first time
you've roped up into their gig,

867
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,240
into their venue, into their
country.

868
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:54,840
So to guide them in a nicer way
is you know it sometimes I can

869
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,400
believe would it takes a lot of
time, you know, sometimes to

870
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,960
explain, but you know, you need
to be that person and not that

871
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,400
bad.
Meanie Yep.

872
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,080
So I, I, you know, I just try to
be nice and you know, I am so

873
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,920
lucky and so blessed having this
life.

874
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,840
Why would I want to, you know,
I'm not jaded.

875
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,960
I don't want to be mean.
I want to be nice to everybody

876
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,080
and love what I do.
You know, I'm like.

877
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,720
And I love that.
Yeah, like, you know, I started

878
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:26,720
my picture book and it's called
An Ordinary Girl with an

879
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,240
Extraordinary Life.
That's so funny.

880
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,720
This is my next thing I want to
ask you about, but right, so I'm

881
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,520
going to ask you about.
So you basically you've called

882
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,680
yourself an ordinary girl with
an extra extraordinary life.

883
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:43,280
And so is this a book you've
written or is it you just

884
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,600
mentioned a picture book?
What's what's What's the book I.

885
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:51,240
Did mostly pictures, but I wrote
like I have one trap chapter on

886
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:54,840
like Johnny Depp, you know,
obviously a lot on Alice.

887
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,320
I'll have 1 chapter on like
Oriente, who was, you know,

888
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,880
Alice's guitar player for four
years.

889
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,080
She was also Michael Jackson's
guitar player.

890
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,120
You know, I have one chapter on,
like, all the fans, you know,

891
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,400
and the pictures I have with
them because I've made some

892
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,840
amazing, amazing friends, and I
still keep in touch with some of

893
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,440
them.
So.

894
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,480
And it was, yeah, it was funny
because before the show, Alice

895
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,040
throws knives, and they're like
the real knives.

896
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,240
And he's really, really good.
So I remember walking out of,

897
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,720
getting ready to walk out of his
dressing room with Danny, and

898
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:35,880
he's like, Booge.
I said, yeah, He says when you

899
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,360
write your book, remember to
tell everybody Alice Cooper's a

900
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,040
ninja.
And he throws the knife and

901
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,800
turns and walks away from me.
And I'm like, OK, so that's

902
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,000
going to be like the little
forward to my book if I ever

903
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,160
had.
That's fantastic.

904
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,000
And so.
He's the one that actually take

905
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:57,120
that idea into my head.
And everybody's happy with you

906
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,760
too, basically to write the
book, you know, is Johnny Depp

907
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,600
happy with it?
Obviously Alice is happy.

908
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080
No, I didn't ask him.
It's it's it's funny.

909
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,520
No, and it won't be like a whole
chapter on Johnny.

910
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,440
I don't, you know, like, just
like pictures of him.

911
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,280
And, you know, he's just so
sweet and so nice and so humble.

912
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,520
Like, the first time I ever met
him, I was coming out of a

913
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,040
dressing room.
I had my arms full of stuff.

914
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,000
And I kicked the door open with
my butt.

915
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,200
And I, he was coming out the
door across the hall.

916
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,880
And we ran into each other and
I'm like, hi, hi.

917
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,240
And I'm like, holy crap, that's
Johnny Depp, You know, I don't.

918
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,640
And so I said to his security
guy, I said, Johnny's not

919
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,760
leaving this building without me
meeting him.

920
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,280
And the guy's like, OK, let me
go ask him.

921
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,200
So he goes in and he comes out
and he said Johnny said no.

922
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,040
And I'm like, OK.
And he's like, no, I'm just

923
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,280
kidding.
He'll be out in a minute.

924
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,320
So Johnny came out and we took a
picture and I, I sent it home to

925
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,040
my my mom and my sisters.
I get home, my mom has that

926
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,200
picture in a frame in her beauty
shop or in her hobby room,

927
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,840
photoshopped with her picture on
it.

928
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,400
I see my sister, she has that
photo on her screensaver with

929
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,680
her picture photoshopped on it
with Johnny.

930
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,600
No, that's funny.
So when I'd hang my signs up, I

931
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,040
came around the stairs and
Johnny stand at the top and I

932
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,720
have a sign that says like
everything this way or whatever.

933
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:24,480
He's like, can I have that sign?
And I'm like, OK, he's like, I'm

934
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,680
going to put it in my man cave.
So I gave him the sign.

935
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,680
So the next time he played with
us, I had new signs.

936
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,080
So I put that sign in his
dressing room and I gave that to

937
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:39,480
him and and so our guitar player
Tommy is really good friends

938
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,720
with Johnny.
So when Tommy stays at Johnny's

939
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:44,880
house, Tommy will FaceTime me
and I see the signs in his

940
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,160
house.
Oh, that's so cool.

941
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:49,280
Really.
That's really.

942
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:55,920
And that's a really Johnny has
given me given ME3 bracelets and

943
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,880
every time we do he, we take a
picture of him giving me the

944
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,920
bracelet and everybody's like,
you should sell them on eBay.

945
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,040
And I'm like, no, they never.
Never, Never.

946
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,760
Never.
Never.

947
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,800
That's something that's truly
special that Yeah, no way.

948
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,760
Yeah, so it's not like, you
know, I'm talking about Johnny,

949
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,280
you know, it's just like some
pictures and like some of those

950
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,800
cute little stories, you know,
so.

951
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,920
And these were all the things
that people really like when you

952
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,960
got it.
You got to let me know when,

953
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,800
when you finished it because I
want to see all these photos

954
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,480
like, you know, because it's,
it's, it's your life.

955
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,000
But this is part of history of
all the years you've been doing

956
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,200
it, you know?
Yeah, yeah, My back cover of my

957
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,320
book Is There going to be a
Picture with Alice, Bill Murray

958
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,280
and I.
Oh yeah, you met Bill Murray as

959
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,680
well.
How is that?

960
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,480
I love Bill Murray.
We were, he owns like, I think

961
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,280
like a AAA or AA baseball team.
And we were in the suite and I'm

962
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,760
sitting at one end and he's
talking to Alice at another.

963
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,760
And I'm like, Oh, my God, that's
Bill Murray.

964
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,280
I go sit next to him and I go,
hi, I'm boujee.

965
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,640
He's like, oh, my God, you're a
boujee.

966
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,640
I've heard so much about you.
And I'm like, you have.

967
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,120
He's like, no, I don't know who
you are.

968
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:16,400
And I was like, and so I got
we've got our picture with the

969
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,880
three of us.
And then he came back later,

970
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,880
grabs me, dips me over and is
like kissing my cheek and my

971
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,440
cheeks all red because he has a
stubble.

972
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:33,120
And I'm like, this is awesome.
Oh, I'm not jealous at all, that

973
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,240
one.
Not jealous at all.

974
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,960
He is exactly like you'd think.
He came in with the plastic

975
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,120
glasses with the fake mustache
hanging.

976
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,840
He was such a nice guy.
That is so cool.

977
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Really.
That is so cool.

978
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,000
So one day I'm in my book, out.
I don't know. 10 years from now,

979
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,800
I don't know.
Yeah, but it's, it's in your

980
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,720
mind to do it, which is the
first step, you know, and you've

981
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:02,200
got the photos, it's putting all
together now.

982
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:05,680
Yeah.
No, you're you're going to do

983
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,600
it.
Like what?

984
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,280
What do you think stopping you
from doing it right?

985
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Not stopping you, But what's,
you know, you said maybe 10

986
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,360
years.
Like what's is it just the

987
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,320
lifestyle now?
You like you're still, I mean,

988
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,520
you're still super busy with
everything.

989
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,480
So is it a matter of time to sit
down and do it, or is it?

990
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,280
Well, I have like 35,000 photos
I have to go through, you know,

991
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:31,240
so that's part of it.
Part of it's laziness, part of

992
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:33,760
it's, you know, I'm just too
busy and, you know, maybe I

993
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,480
should actually set aside time,
you know, I might add to my

994
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,840
book, you know, like some of my
other tours that I've had so.

995
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,080
Yeah, that'd be good as well.
Yeah.

996
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,760
OK, I mean, I don't know if I
mean, I don't know if you use AI

997
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,560
at all, but using AI to help
you, you just upload all your

998
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,360
photos and tell it to make you a
book.

999
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,480
It will do it.
That's a good idea.

1000
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,400
No, I have to.
Seriously, and I'm not so my my

1001
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,080
husband the other day I was
telling him about, you know,

1002
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,760
like books and all the rest of
it.

1003
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,320
Anyway, he just sat there and I
think in in a day, he's well, he

1004
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,760
hasn't written this book, but he
he knew about this idea.

1005
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,560
He's been working with AI and
it's amazing.

1006
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,600
It is amazing.
And I have to check it out in a

1007
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,320
day.
Like it really.

1008
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:35,480
And I know our mixed feelings
about AI, but the tools that are

1009
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,920
out there to help you like are
incredible.

1010
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,040
I mean, absolutely incredible.
So you watch, watch this space.

1011
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,160
My husband could be the new, I
don't know, JK Rowling.

1012
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,320
I said if you do, my love,
that's fantastic.

1013
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,240
But yeah.
But when you like, I mean,

1014
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:58,560
you've you've you've called your
the book when it comes out an

1015
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,840
ordinary girl with an
extraordinary life.

1016
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,160
I mean, what keeps you, what
keeps you humble?

1017
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,680
What keeps you so grounded after
everything you've experienced?

1018
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:10,840
Is it family life?
Is it just you in your heart

1019
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,440
like?
I mean, I have an awesome

1020
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,920
family, but you know it, it
could all be gone in an instant.

1021
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:23,960
You know, true.
I don't walk around like, oh,

1022
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,560
guess who I work for, you know,
and all this stuff.

1023
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:35,040
You know, it's I just, it could
be gone and it could all be gone

1024
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,400
in like an instant.
And it's happened to me several

1025
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,200
times.
You know, that's everything is

1026
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,120
is taken away.
So I'm really grateful for

1027
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,080
everything that I've had and and
everything that's happened in my

1028
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,080
life.
And do you still travel with

1029
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,960
Alice and like the like?
No, no.

1030
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,320
But I see when they come to
town, I I see them and then like

1031
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,960
I said, I do this charity event
every year and I keep in touch

1032
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,080
with Cheryl.
Yeah, so.

1033
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,680
I don't.
Do you have like God?

1034
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,760
Sorry.
I don't know if I'd want to do

1035
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,840
like I had four buses to semis,
which is a good size, you know,

1036
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,840
2 or 25 people.
I don't know if I'd want to do

1037
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,160
that anymore.
OK.

1038
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:24,800
And what, what, what, how do you
have any tours or what's like, I

1039
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,400
know the end of this year you've
got a lot of like travel plans

1040
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:34,080
you're doing, doing this event
like next year because I hate to

1041
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,240
say that now like we're coming
to the end of the year now.

1042
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:41,080
Yeah, like.
I have a private show in Naples,

1043
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,480
FL December.
I'm there December 2nd to the

1044
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,440
7th.
I can't say who the artist is.

1045
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,520
Oh yeah, you said that.
Yeah, because the guests don't

1046
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,200
know who it is.
So it's a surprise from the boss

1047
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,680
to his employees.
I work for two promoters, yeah.

1048
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,000
And I do a couple really nice
shows with one of them, one of

1049
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,640
the promoters and then my other
promoter.

1050
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,760
I do a lot more the local shows.
And then I have something else

1051
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,400
in the works.
I can't tell you about it yet.

1052
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,440
That's.
Fine, knowing you, you've got

1053
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,040
lots going on.
Yeah, yeah.

1054
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,320
So I take more one big vacation
once a year, and I incorporate

1055
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,840
Alice's event into it.
So yeah.

1056
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,840
OK, So what I always ask people
is after, especially after so

1057
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,320
many years touring, what advice
would you give to someone who

1058
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,760
wants to break into live
production?

1059
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Yeah, what?
What advice would you give

1060
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,360
people?
Don't go in with an attitude

1061
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:48,280
like you know everything.
I just had a really good one.

1062
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:54,520
So I make yourself known without
being annoying, OK?

1063
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,840
Oh I love.
That when I was running venues,

1064
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,680
I got a lot of job offers.
Hey, can you be our tour

1065
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,080
manager, You know, and I'm
running the venue and I'm like,

1066
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,640
sorry, I can't.
I'm running the venue and I have

1067
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:11,120
my business, you know, But I
always tell the kids, people are

1068
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,800
going to remember you as long as
you're not too annoying.

1069
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,720
And that's, I think that's why
they remembered me because I

1070
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,840
always say instead of you see
somebody carrying a lot of

1071
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,960
stuff, can I help you with that?
Don't say that because I'll go

1072
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,440
no say let me help you with
that, you know, instead of can I

1073
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,280
let me help you with that?
You know, if you see somebody

1074
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,560
struggling to push a case, go
over and say, Hey, can I help

1075
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,120
you with this?
But don't be in their face.

1076
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,960
Don't be so annoying that they,
you know, just go away kid, you

1077
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,120
know, so make yourself memorable
without.

1078
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,920
Being annoying.
I really like that I'm I'm going

1079
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:53,160
to do that as a top tip for me.
Yeah, you know, because that's

1080
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,240
what they remember, you know,
they remembered me, you know?

1081
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,400
Hey, she was a hard worker.
She was good, you know, just

1082
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,960
like I'm always like 1.
You always have to be like one

1083
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,360
step ahead of everybody, see
everything that's going on, you

1084
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,600
know, so.
But.

1085
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,040
Yeah, And looking back, what's
been your proudest moment in

1086
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:21,720
this crazy industry?
My proudest moment.

1087
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Well, first of all, being able
to have my parents come to a

1088
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:31,360
show and see what I actually did
that maybe, you know, like my

1089
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,240
dad's like, you're going to live
out of a gosh darn suitcase.

1090
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,600
And I'm like, yeah, isn't it
awesome?

1091
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,840
And, you know, my mom knew
Alice.

1092
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,400
You know, there's the
Rock'n'roll there where my dad

1093
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,680
knew Alice is the golfer.
So they, you know, they had no

1094
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:50,000
idea what to expect backstage.
And they came to when Marilyn

1095
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,440
Manson was with us.
That's when my father golfed

1096
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,440
with Alice.
And my parents came back.

1097
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,000
And they're like, we had no idea
this is what you did, you know?

1098
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,000
And they're like, holy, they had
no idea how how backstage went,

1099
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,000
you know, and how hard everybody
worked, you know.

1100
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,560
So it was made me so proud to
like have my parents and my my

1101
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,960
sister's come back and see what
I did, you know, And then they

1102
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,520
had a whole different
perspective.

1103
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,720
Yeah.
I mean, most of OK, anybody that

1104
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,640
I've mentioned do what do you do
really is you can't describe it.

1105
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,040
You can't you know, you, you
know, you're backstage or you

1106
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,640
know this, that and the other.
And they're like, oh, but you're

1107
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,280
going to hear, hear, hear, hear.
I was like, yeah, I probably

1108
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,320
won't see it.
I'll see the, the tour bus, the

1109
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,520
venue and leave.
Like I won't see Paris or I

1110
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,080
won't see Texas.
Like I don't get to see these

1111
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,960
places.
But I don't understand what do

1112
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,400
you do?
So having the opportunity to

1113
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,160
bring your family in and they're
like.

1114
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,720
Oh.
But I always find that sometimes

1115
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,640
when you do bring people
backstage, they still only see

1116
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,360
like the good side of it.
They still don't see like

1117
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,360
everything, do they?
No, no, no.

1118
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,400
Although they did when we
weren't with Marilyn Manson.

1119
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,000
He scared the crap out of my
family.

1120
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,400
Really.
Why?

1121
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,840
What did he do?
Just his just his presence is my

1122
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,400
niece would hide behind like her
mom or my proud.

1123
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,680
And my favorite moments of the
entire tour was we were playing

1124
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:26,720
in Rio and Alice and Johnny Depp
had done this several years

1125
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,800
before where they fitted people
who had never heard before with

1126
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:35,960
hearing aids.
And I said, can I be part of it?

1127
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,600
And they said yes.
So I went, I went down to to the

1128
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,520
main lobby where everybody was
and all these people that have

1129
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,120
never heard in their entire
lives.

1130
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:52,760
And I got to put hearing aids in
people and then my voice was the

1131
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,760
very first voice they've ever
heard in their lives.

1132
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,360
I did a little boy.
I did like a middle-aged person

1133
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,880
and an older person.
And you put the hearing aid in

1134
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,840
and then you go and you go bop,
bop, bop.

1135
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,720
And then they smile and you're
and it brings you to tears

1136
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:08,920
because you're like, they have
never heard in their entire

1137
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,440
lives.
And now you've given them this

1138
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,120
gift.
And I remember Alice doing that

1139
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:18,320
with a little boy and his mom
was there and she just started

1140
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,360
crying when he smiled and
couldn't hear.

1141
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,760
It was like, the the most
satisfying thing ever.

1142
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,680
It was.
It was.

1143
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,920
It was awesome.
Yeah.

1144
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,760
So I gave people the gift of
hearing.

1145
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:33,240
So it was pretty cool.
Oh wow.

1146
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,400
That that's certainly, I think
that's a very, very, very proud

1147
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,360
moment.
Yeah, yeah.

1148
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,200
So that's my all time favorite
moment of tour.

1149
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,640
Well, that's really sweet.
And finally, if you could sum up

1150
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,840
your career in one sentence or a
couple, whatever, like, what

1151
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,840
would it be?
Lucky.

1152
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,600
Oh, I love that just.
Lucky, you know, I just look, I

1153
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,840
just look back and I'm like, I
sure I'm lucky, you know, look

1154
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,560
at everything I did.
I've, I've travelled the world

1155
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,920
three times with Alice Cooper.
I've done stuff that million

1156
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,240
people will never get to do in a
lifetime.

1157
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:20,560
You know, who'd ever thought
that I would ever be where I am

1158
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:25,040
today?
You know, and just, I just look

1159
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,840
back and I have have so many
amazing memories.

1160
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,000
I'm just so lucky.
Yeah.

1161
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:38,280
Oh, that's a wonderful,
wonderful way to finished the

1162
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,960
podcast and I can't thank you
enough for coming on.

1163
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,440
I said I've been.
So looking forward to having me.

1164
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,840
Yeah, really.
I've been so looking forward to

1165
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,680
meeting you and I think I think
I've covered everything.

1166
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,400
Have I covered everything?
I think, I think we have.

1167
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:55,800
Sorry.
I don't know, there's so much

1168
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,920
more, but that's OK.
I know my cat's at the window.

1169
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,600
I just was like, I saw this
shadow, Yeah.

1170
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,080
Thank you so much for reaching
out to me.

1171
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,520
I love doing stuff like this.
I love talking to people, you

1172
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,760
know, about my career and all
the fun things I've done.

1173
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,320
And.
And I once said, you know, I

1174
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,920
talk about it.
I feel like I'm bragging.

1175
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:13,840
And they're like, no, you're
not.

1176
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,160
That's your life, you know?
And I'm like, you're right,

1177
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,920
Yeah.
Really.

1178
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,200
That's that.
This is your life and I'm sure I

1179
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,320
mean I could have gone on for
for hours just in details about

1180
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,440
everything.
So spending this hour with me, I

1181
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,960
know the listeners are going to
love it and I can't thank you

1182
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,640
enough.
So thanks for sharing all your

1183
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,120
experiences.
Thank you.

1184
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,600
Bye.
OK, see you.

1185
01:04:55,240 --> 01:05:03,160
Now here's the leading ladies by
Geezers of Gear on tour.

1186
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,040
Maybe she got some stories to
share.

1187
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:14,240
Now here's the leading ladies by
the Geezers of Gear Rock star

1188
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:21,160
ladies with some stories to
share because La La La La La La

1189
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:32,320
the ladies La La La La La La la
ladies.

1190
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Yes, she's a high.
Now here's the leading ladies by

1191
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:50,200
geezers a Kid Rock star ladies
for some stories to share.

1192
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:51,400
Now here's the.