#315 - Sarah Birnie - Navigating Mental Health on Tour - LEADING LADIES

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Hello and welcome to Leading
Ladies with me, Sarah Burnie.

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La La La La ladies, the ladies
now here's the leading ladies by

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geezers of gear on tour.
Maybe she got some stories to

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share.
Now here's the leading ladies by

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the geezers of gear Rock star
ladies with some stories to

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share because La La La La la
ladies.

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Now this is going to be a
different one.

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It's just me.
It's just ceremony on this

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little podcast.
I have tried for well, actually

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this one particular lady, Hannah
West, we tried before I went on

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tour to get together, but sadly
we couldn't connect properly.

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And then when we were on tour,
we were going to do a podcast,

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but it was just, it really
wasn't the time we or we had no

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time to actually do it.
And since we've been back,

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Hannah was poorly and many other
things, things which I'm going

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to talk about.
So that is 1 podcast that is on

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its way with a fabulous lady
called Hannah W.

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She is basically she's a chef
and she's been working in the

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music industry for I think just
over 10 years now.

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The insights from her that I
really wanted to find out, you

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know, being a woman in Yeah, in
the cake in the chefing world

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because it's not often you find
lady chefs, especially in the

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hop kitchen.
So that was one thing we were

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really going to talk about.
And she is a strong advocate for

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mental health.
And many, many topics were going

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to come from the tour that we've
just done.

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And sadly just now I was about
to talk to a lovely lady called

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Rachel Bronstein, who is the
founder of Life's Jam, which is

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a financial coaching practice
now.

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A was connected with her through
Cara Kemp, who is from Ecolife

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and we found out that she was
actually going to be fired the

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financial coach for the tour
that I was just on as well.

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So we had a 1A mutual connection
being Cara and then obviously I

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was on this tour and she was
also going to be the financial

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coach for this tour as well.
Sadly, my Internet has just gone

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all over the place.
It kept cutting out.

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I'm trying to do this one now.
I hope it won't cut out, but

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we'll see how far we get.
But we will be rescheduling for

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a couple of weeks time because I
know this conversation is going

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OK so my Internet did cut out

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again.
I'm hoping I can get to do a

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little chat for you guys now.
And it is really about the

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mental health side of things.
I think now the podcast has been

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going on.
I don't know what's it been

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about six months now.
So I've had, I think at that

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time, 12 guests come on the
podcast, which has been amazing.

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And every time I sit here
talking about mental health

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going, Oh yes, you've got to
look after yourself, you've got

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to do this and you've got to do
that.

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And really I forgot, I haven't
been on tour since before COVID.

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That was on purely because
during the COVID time, I focused

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more on living here in Crete, I
focused more on walking and I

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tried to to sustain myself work
wise by getting remote jobs,

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which I have done up until now.
And obviously working for Marcel

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through Geysers of Gear Leading
Ladies has come about, Future

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Tech has come about and I am
totally happy and absolutely

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love my remote job.
So that's the first thing.

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I was offered the opportunity to
go on tour.

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It was a six week tour and my
husband, who has never toured

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before, basically was also asked
and that is one of the reasons

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we decided to do it, because it
was going to be together and we

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thought what a great opportunity
to go, to travel, to do

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everything fantastic.
Now this is his first tour.

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My role within the tour was
dressing rooms.

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So I was looking after dressing
rooms alongside, or not

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alongside working for a
wonderful lady called Rebecca.

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Basically.
I loved it.

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I absolutely loved it.
I loved that busy that you're on

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the go.
I love sleeping on the buses, I

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love going into the hotels.
Everything surrounded a tour I

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really loved.
Now my husband, it was his very

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first time and he was on the
catering side in the front of

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house and it's the very first
time that he's done this, but I

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couldn't be more proud of him.
Like he absolutely was

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incredible.
From the moment we loaded in, he

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was already trying to organize
himself, so it was going to be

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easier to load out.
We were in Vienna for the first

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five days and it had its
difficulties, which I will go

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into.
Even with the difficulties, he

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was still always incredible.
He then also understood the work

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that I'd been doing previously
and especially when I told him

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that I used to go on tours and I
used to do this, I used to do

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that and it's very easy to say,
OK, you go on tour, but nobody

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understands what you actually
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So personally for me, coming
back from this tour, it's really

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brought us even more closer
together for him to actually

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understand what Tory means and
the actual the achievement that

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he's come out of it.
Everybody loved him.

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And I mean everybody, absolutely
everybody by the end of it, you

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know, they were, we were, he was
feeding like 100 people.

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He knew everybody's name.
He knew their dietary

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requirements.
He knew this, he knew that.

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And he brought joy when people
came into the dining room, which

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is what a front of house person
is meant to do.

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He also understood the
tiredness.

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And we looked after ourselves.
And we did, you know, we did.

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We did.
Well, yeah, really is.

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Or even as far as drinking, it
was a great tour for that

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actually, because the rule was
you didn't drink until you

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finished work and basically was
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And I love that because really,
I've been on many tours where

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people will start drinking in
the afternoon and drugs,

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whatever.
And I've got no problem with

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people doing anything, like
really anything, as long as it

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doesn't affect your performance.
But it always does affect your

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performance because maybe if
you've had a little bit too

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much, you could be a little bit
too short.

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So having this or say no, no
alcohol, no nothing until the

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job is done really made
everything clean cut to how I

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really like to work.
Also on the buses, we'd get onto

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the bus if I call it a school
night.

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So if we had another loading day
the next day, really everybody

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on our bus was very respectful,
maybe 1 beer when everybody

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finished work with the after
show food.

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But really everybody then went,
they went to sleep because they

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all knew that the next day we
was loading in, it was gonna be

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another hard day.
And then we enjoyed ourselves

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when we didn't have a loading
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day off, travel day, day off.
And we did, we all had some

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beers.
Myself personally, because I

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wanted to see different
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We really, we were in bed before
the bus was rolling.

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We did have a couple of nights
throughout the six weeks where

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we stayed up with everybody and
that was fun.

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But then those of you that know
you feel rubbish the next day,

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you had a great night.
But I suppose that's life in

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general.
But really for us it was more

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about getting a good night's
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You still feel tired, but then
when you arrive, like

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Luxembourg.
I've been to Luxembourg many a

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time on a tour.
However, I've never had a day

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off there.
So we managed to get up early

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while we got to the hotel and
had a shower, had some breakfast

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and then went straight out and
explored Luxembourg, which is a

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beautiful place, Absolutely
beautiful, very expensive, but

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beautiful.
So we really made the most of

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trying to keep ourselves in the
best shape physically and

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mentally.
Now let's go back a bit.

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My role, as I said before, was
going to be dressing rooms and

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then also all of the buses.
We were travelling with seven

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buses, so I had to make sure
that all the buses were stocked

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with everyone's requirements
every day.

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And that included the band's
buses and that included the crew

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buses and production and
management.

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That was all pretty much
straightforward and dressing

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rooms, you know, I'm used to
doing both of those positions.

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And yes, it could be long hours,
but once the organization comes

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in, you know, really it's yeah,
it's, it's easy.

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You know, you just got a little
bit of organization and it's all

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good.
But we were going into Vienna.

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That was our first, first call,
and we were going into a bank

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holiday and that was already the
start of, let's say, difficult

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times because everything was
closed.

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So we got got there a couple of
days, one day earlier, trying to

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prepare everything, get
everything for the riders, for

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the dressing rooms.
You know, I had to buy five days

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in advance where you're going to
store it all, where you're going

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to put this, you're in a tight
space.

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But again, that's nothing that
we haven't dealt with before.

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Our team from the catering side,
it could have gone one or two

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ways but it went the other way.
So what I'm about to say now, it

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has no reflection on any one
person in particular or what's

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actually happened.
But basically my role, dressing

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rooms and the buses, that's
fine, I've done that before no

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problem.
But I had a little bit more

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stress because I was trying to
keep an eye on my husband

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Manoli, who had never done the
front of house side of things

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before.
I was also expected to go into

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front of house to teach him.
But I had no time.

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Like really I had no time with
doing all of the jobs that I

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needed to do.
And I was also the main

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correspondence between the
production and really I found it

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very difficult to even go and
help at any point at the front

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of house.
So that because I'm a very

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sensitive person, that was on my
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We had somebody in what's known
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So they do the salads, they do
the desserts.

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They don't normally do this
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front of house.
So they were going into an area

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where they weren't so keen, not
so keen, they weren't so

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confident, although they had had
experience that they were

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running that on their own.
Then you had two people in the

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kitchen.
Now the two people in the

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kitchen, yes they've had
experience in hot kitchen, but

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not one together and two never
as that being their main thing.

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So both of those girls actually,
they were in fact always in

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middle kitchen and they are
excellent at salad and desserts.

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They playing out of the park
every single time I've been on

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tour.
I've been on tour with one of

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them, which is Hannah that I
mentioned previously and another

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girl that I hadn't met, but I've
heard lots about her.

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Then there was another gentleman
that was kind of like we we

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didn't have a crew chief.
It was split between myself and

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this other gentleman and this
other gentleman hadn't had

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experience at all in being a
crew chief, but was an excellent

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head chef.
Straight away I could see a red

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flag that you weren't going to
make any videos when I say you

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when I my my the bosses of our
company, there was no crew chief

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now not just necessarily for our
team, but for production for the

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lighting department, the video
tomorrow, but who do you go to

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who do you see not just rock up
at catering and Oh no go no,

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that's them that's them that's
her that's you.

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It was all really confusing from
the start.

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The gentleman that was then
going to be let's say part

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leader with me, we clashed and I
don't normally clash with people

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but we clashed.
But that was purely because I am

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very organized and he really
wasn't organized and it was a

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little bit out of his league
organizing.

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So sadly the organization skills
really did lack.

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But he also was trying to help
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So he was trying to help the 2
girls that were going that were

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in the hot kitchen and then he
was trying to help the other

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gentleman that had moved up from
front of to the salad and

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dessert world.
And then you had Manoli that

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didn't know anything.
I was coming past and I was like

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Oh my God, you need to do this,
you need to do this.

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But I didn't have any time.
In the end I had a breakdown and

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I mean I did have a breakdown.
I realized that it was

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impossible and it takes a lot
for me to say that things are

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impossible.
But really it was it was all

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getting too much.
The kitchen was behind over

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ordering on stuff because you
panicked order and people were

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trying to help Manoli when I
couldn't and that was putting

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strain on them because that
wasn't, you know, that's not

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part of what they do.
Really.

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It just it was it was not
turning into a nice situation.

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There was little problems that
happened.

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We also had, obviously it was
the rehearsals for the tour, so

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they were working really late.
We were also working really

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late.
The dinner would finish at 10:00

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at night, but then myself and
this other gentleman would stay

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late and sometimes you would be
getting back to like 1:00 in the

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morning.
We were then up at 5:00 to go

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back in again.
So lack of sleep.

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At that point I really wasn't
looking after myself by eating

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because I didn't have time or I
thought I didn't have time.

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You should always make time to
eat.

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But you know, I'll eat in a
minute, I'll eat in a minute.

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Just keep on going, keep on
going.

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And then it came to the show day
date, the night before show day.

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And there was still lots of
things that needed to be done.

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And I realized I'm not going to
do it and I need to speak out.

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Now.
One of my bosses was actually

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there at this point.
He'd just arrived because I

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think he was he was coming to
meet the production, but he was

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there and it was like 2:00 in
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I couldn't sleep.
And I just wanted to point out

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before this, so the three days
before at any given point, I was

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slowly getting worse and worse
and I would just break down, I'd

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break down in tears.
And that's generally how I

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release my emotions anyway.
And I wasn't me.

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I was frustrated.
I knew I could do the job for

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whatever reason, you know, I saw
being put in different

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positions.
Was it, was it me, you know, was

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I not working fast enough so I
could go into front of house to

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help Manoli?
Was it the fact that we were

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silly to put Manoli in a
position where he'd never done

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it before, where we all still
need to go into positions where

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we'd never never had the full
experience of going into them?

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I can't say.
But whatever happened the night

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before the show day, I couldn't
sleep.

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I was just sick, constantly
crying, and I knew the tasks

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that I had the next day, if I
didn't speak up, AI would let

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everybody down.
I spoke to Manoli and I said,

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look, I don't think this is for
us.

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I think we're holding everybody
back and we might have to like

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leave.
We might have to leave.

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I also called Marcel and I spoke
to him and he was like, you are,

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he's never heard me sound so
down, so sad.

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Makes me a bit emotional
already.

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Really.
It was absolutely.

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I just, I can't describe it,
just it was really, really

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tough.
Anyway, I wrote this.

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I didn't know who to go to.
I didn't know who to go to.

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Go straight to my boss or one of
my.

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I didn't know whether to go to
this gentleman that was in

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charge of everything.
But clearly really he couldn't.

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He couldn't, he couldn't do it
like he couldn't.

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He couldn't organize it.
And I was also getting worried

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for the future, future shows
because we were so behind on

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preparations for that as well.
So, and I'm not blaming him, but

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yeah, I kind of am at the same
time, like I kind of am.

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Anyway, I wrote this message and
I said it's 2:00 in the morning.

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I'm breaking down.
If I don't tell you now, if it

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comes to tomorrow, I'm going to
literally, excuse my language,

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fuck up everything.
And you know, we're really going

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to be screwed.
And I don't want to do that to

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the team.
If you could all help me and I

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listed everything that I needed
help with.

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So the three buses for the band,
I was like, it's a really, it's

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a it's such a, you know, what's
the kind of think of the word

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now.
It is specific things that they

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needed.
You know, they wanted this this

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product had to be this product.
And you know, yet you get it

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from a special, special shop.
We had one runner to do not only

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feed 100 people and get their
shopping.

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I was like we haven't got enough
people to do the special things

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as well and me to go take it to
the buses, this that and the

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other to do the dressing rooms.
And like really I knew I

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couldn't do it.
So I delegated in the best way

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that I thought, and one being
that my boss would do the the

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three buses.
I could do the like the crew

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buses.
That's fine.

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So that was four of those.
Somebody would need to help

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Manoli in the evening for
dinner, which one person did

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that was the gentleman from
Salads and Desserts.

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And he was incredible.
I mean, really, he was

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incredible.
Oh, and I've got to mention in

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the midst of this, because we're
there for so long, you don't

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have fridge spaces.
So we hired a fridge that came

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down a ramp into the arena.
We then put all the shelving up.

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So yeah, bang, the fridge is
there.

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All the rest of it.
No, we then got told that we had

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to pull everything out to drive
the fridge outside round in a

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car park every night.
That at the end of the day, I

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mean, the logic in all of this
was just bonkers.

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So, so many things were going
wrong for us at the start, but

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again, lack of planning, lack of
organization and lack of

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information LED us to do stupid
things.

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My e-mail then or my message, it
was to everybody.

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In the end I decided not just to
do it to the boss that was there

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and not to the gentleman that
was in charge of the things.

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It was going out to everybody,
to the girls in the hot kitchen,

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you know, just guide Manoli if
you can during this time right

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now.
I said that I believe that it's

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us that's causing these issues
and that we will be basically

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considering we're going to be
leaving, but we're not going to

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leave you straight away because
we're going into basically 2

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back to backs.
And then we had a long travel

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day and you know, I said just
see us through this, this phase

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now and this was it.
Now, bear in mind, everybody

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knew how I was struggling, so my
whole team could see how I was

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struggling.
I had private conversations with

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every one of them, and they were
like, yeah, we've got your back,

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we've got your back.
I just put it in paper, in

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writing rather than, you know,
whispers here, whispers there.

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Everybody's under the same
umbrella.

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And you know what?
Really how I need help.

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Well, I didn't hear from, I
didn't get any response by the

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time I'd finished this because
it took me forever.

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I must be 4:00 in the morning.
I got to sleep and I was back up

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again at 5:00 ready to leave to
do the show day.

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As we're walking into work,
everyone's like, we really

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appreciate your message.
Like last night, of course we're

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going to help you.
We're going to get through this.

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We're going to do it.
And we went into work.

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As I was walking into work I
spoke to the boss and I was like

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I'm really sorry, crying at this
point.

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I said I'm really sorry.
I don't know what's happened.

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I didn't want to put any blame
on anyone but I'm just, I was

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just, I said I had to be honest
and I can't, I can't do it.

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And he said oh don't worry,
you're going to be fine.

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And that was it.
You're going to be fine.

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It made me mad and I was like
I'm not going to be fine.

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It has taken me so much to open
up to say to you.

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I need help.
And not just help within what

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we're doing mentally.
I'm having a breakdown right

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now.
I am breaking down.

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This isn't the person who I am.
It has never happened to me

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before.
And really, you can't just say

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it's going to be all right.
And it was like, oh, you know,

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it's just the first, the first
couple of days you're going to

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get into this, everything's
going to be fine.

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You'll get organized.
You'll get this.

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I know you.
I said, yeah, I know me.

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And that's the problem.
I know me.

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And this right now is not me.
I just I don't know what to say.

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Anyway, we did the day it was
the toughest day.

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It was all chaotic everywhere.
I mean absolutely everywhere

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from the kitchen to actually the
only person that actually had

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everything under control was
Manoli.

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So he had everything under
control but the loadout.

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Now loadout, I will go into a
average day for let's say my

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average day when I was on tour,
but the loadout for us dinner

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finished at 8:00 and really an
average loadout should be done

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by 9:00.
So that's one hour, one hour

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from a full buffet being still
in service. 8:00 no more food,

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clear it all down, put it into
wash up, put it all into our

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flight cases, clear the kitchen,
clear the dining room,

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absolutely everything, everyone
so fast.

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Bang. 9:00 we're loaded out,
we're done.

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It was midnight.
That is how much shit we had.

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That is how unorganized we were.
And but like I said, when I'm

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not organized, I can't see, I
can't see it.

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I can't see the I can't see and
I knew I had to focus, but when

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you're trying to put all your
front of house bits in one box

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and then a certain person comes
and puts a load of kitchen stuff

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in it and like just mixes up
everything and one persons

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moving 1 foot, There's just no,
we weren't dancing with each

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other.
We were just fighting to the

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end.
We're also very tired and that

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is a huge factor to it as well.
Anyway, we then had one more

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day, we had a load in the next
day, which we kind of like, OK,

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everything's going to be simple.
We're going to do it and we're

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just going to get through it.
We did.

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We got through it and I believe
we had like a two travel day

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into a day off and that the
owner of the company was coming

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to see us because I had again
said, actually, I want to

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backtrack with my boss at the
time, he was like, it's OK,

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everything's going to be fine.
It's always like this.

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At the beginning I was like,
it's not, it's not always like

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this.
I had to go around to everybody

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individually again and say, am I
being crazy?

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Is it me or is it that something
isn't working?

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And they all were like, no, it's
not you.

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I said then please, please come
together, tell him how you're

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feeling.
Tell him you're struggling here.

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Tell him everything.
And again, if it wasn't for me

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going up to these people
individually and saying, help

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me, it would have stayed the
same or I would have broken down

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or I probably would have just
left.

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I'm loyal to anybody and I would
not do such a thing.

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But it came to a part, came to a
point where I was like, yeah, I

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can't.
And then you've got my husband

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that's kind of doing well.
But at the same time, you know,

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nobody showed him how to load in
and load out.

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He's just like, there's your
there's your cases.

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Go sort it.
Yeah, he's doing.

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He's doing it fine.
But is he a bit slower?

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Yeah.
Does he?

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You know that's going to be
normal when you haven't got

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someone to show you.
He was 100% whatever I was going

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to do.
So sadly, if I left, it was

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going to be him too.
Anyway, we managed to get some

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sleep.
The owner of the company came to

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oversee everything and just try
and work out what the issues

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were.
And at this point I was like,

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things aren't changing.
It's just like, this is just

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crazy.
The totally unorganized, I mean,

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food being delivered like 30
minutes before it's meant to be

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00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,600
on being made hot and out for
lunch or out for dinner.

447
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,040
And I said to Magnolia, I said,
right, I think it's time.

448
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,880
I called myself, I said, Marcel,
you know, I hate to say this or

449
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,160
I think actually he would.
He actually was really happy the

450
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,800
fact that I was going to be
coming back earlier.

451
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,320
I said, I can't do this.
And he was like even Marcel was

452
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,880
like, come on, Sir, what's the
problem?

453
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,880
And he really did help me.
He Marcel helped me a lot,

454
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,120
talked through stuff.
And I said, I know me.

455
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,480
I know that this is not I can't
sustain this.

456
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,680
I can't sustain this this type
of work in and this in this

457
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,280
emotional state.
And she was like, OK, don't

458
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,520
worry.
And at the time I didn't

459
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760
actually, I didn't even have a
lot of money in my bank account.

460
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,320
You know, this going to do this
job, we needed it.

461
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,920
We needed the money.
You know, the money is good when

462
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,200
you're on tour.
And even Marcel, he transferred

463
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,840
some money for me so I could go
and get the flights for both of

464
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,960
us.
So thank you, Marcel.

465
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,520
I truly appreciate that you did
that.

466
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:45,640
And anyway, my boss, he was with
us all day again, he helped with

467
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,480
the buses he helped do, he was
all, he was all over the place.

468
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,880
He didn't stop all day.
And it made a lot of difference

469
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,680
on our team.
But then we realized, well,

470
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,840
actually, you know, like we need
one more person.

471
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,480
So finally speak to my, the
owner of the company.

472
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,080
And I'd seen him go around
talking to everybody else before

473
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,880
me, which is fine, you know,
because everyone knew my issues.

474
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,520
So he was going around talking
to everybody.

475
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
And then he brought myself and
Manoli out.

476
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,560
And he was like, OK, Sarah, so
you know what's what's going on?

477
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,160
And I kind of went to say a few
things, you know, the lack of

478
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,640
organization and this and that.
And I said, you know, I'm really

479
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,360
sorry I've let you down, but
we're giving you notice now, and

480
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,280
we'll leave in basically a
week's time.

481
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,160
But we had two more shows to do.
And he went, you're not leaving.

482
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,440
And I was like, I can't.
He said, no, no, I know you

483
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,360
can't do it.
I can see how you are, he said.

484
00:25:32,360 --> 00:25:36,600
And I, I totally admire that
you've been so honest and asked

485
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,800
for help, he said.
And that's why I'm here now, to

486
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,840
resolve the problems.
And as it turns out, he swapped

487
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,680
out one of the girls in the
kitchen who has had experience

488
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,440
in basically being a crew chief
and the gentleman that was in

489
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,440
charge of being, I don't know,
the crew chief alongside me.

490
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,600
He was then made back to head
chef the very next show day.

491
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280
It was amazing.
This woman was organized.

492
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,880
She had time to do things they
didn't have time for, so she was

493
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,120
helping me.
She was helping in middle

494
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:11,160
kitchen.
She went to the shop to got

495
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,960
everything done.
She was then out front with

496
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,760
Minoli giving him assistance.
She then had time to load out

497
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,760
her own stuff before helping.
It gave me time really.

498
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,560
It was like, well it was like
being on a different tour.

499
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,400
I can't thank her enough for
going into the role of basically

500
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,800
the crew chief.
Working alongside her was

501
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,760
fantastic.
The option still knew that

502
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560
they'd come to me for things and
they could also go to her.

503
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,360
But we were a team, We talked,
we didn't clash.

504
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,120
I'm not too sure why I clashed
with the first person.

505
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,560
Well, I do because of the not
being organised.

506
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,120
I think if he was under better
guidance as a crew chief, he

507
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,800
possibly could be good.
Possibly.

508
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,400
But on the same tone we would
make sure, I mean we, we were up

509
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,360
early making sure we had the
list done, making sure

510
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,000
everything was done for not just
the next show day, the a week

511
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,480
ahead.
We're part of groups.

512
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,280
We need this as a pre-order.
We need that.

513
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,120
And we wouldn't, we, we, we
wouldn't have a drink.

514
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,560
We wouldn't, yeah, we wouldn't
even have a day off.

515
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,400
We had many days where it was a
travel day into a day off and me

516
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,640
and this girl, we didn't have a
day off.

517
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,480
We went in, we went to the shops
to get the special things that

518
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,160
we needed or we went into the
gig just to do a pre rig and we

519
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,600
let everybody else have a day
off.

520
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,840
We we looked after together the
team and the crew.

521
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,480
There was a little bit of
resentment.

522
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,560
The gentleman that was then made
back down to head chef, which I

523
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,680
understand, but then at the same
time, he's been very patronized

524
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,120
in the sense that, oh, you know,
I've left.

525
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,120
No, you kind of didn't leave.
You had to leave.

526
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,240
He's a nice enough guy, but it
wasn't it's, it's what I'm

527
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,040
trying to say is I reached out
to someone and it was the wrong

528
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,880
person.
The wrong person told me it's

529
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280
going to be OK.
I knew it wasn't going to be OK.

530
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,840
The right person you reach out
to or the right person that I

531
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,000
reached out to did help me, did
sort the problem, did everything

532
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,800
he could to keep me and Manoli
part of the team to also keep

533
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,800
all of us part of the team.
He even said maybe it was a

534
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,760
silly move putting everyone in
positions that they're not 100%

535
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,200
comfortable with, but he really
wanted to give everyone the

536
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,680
opportunity and not have anyone
stuck in a role that really, you

537
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,800
know, they we everybody could,
you know, improve on.

538
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,840
I can't thank him enough for
what he did.

539
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,280
The tour ends up being
brilliant, but during this time

540
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,200
when I also was having my
breakdown, there were other

541
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,400
people as well having
breakdowns.

542
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,640
And I suppose that energy, it
can be like that, you know, when

543
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,280
a tour just starts, you know,
you don't know people, you're

544
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,560
not interacting properly and
you're tired, especially when

545
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440
you've had rehearsals that
didn't go as planned.

546
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,840
I would like to think once I
came out of my my mini

547
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880
breakdown, I was able to help
other people as well.

548
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,000
And people then came to me and I
sat here, this is what I'm used

549
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,280
to saying no, reach out to
someone or make sure you're

550
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,680
there for someone.
And I think that's really my

551
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,920
message now is make sure you're
the one that people can come to

552
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,560
because if that person goes to
someone that they, like me, got

553
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,120
told it will be OK.
That wasn't the answer I was

554
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,800
looking for.
And really I was screaming for

555
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:34,240
help, screaming out loud.
And I'm not saying I would have

556
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,040
done anything silly because
like, but really without having

557
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Manoli there at night, you know,
to like just be there to support

558
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880
me, maybe I would have just done
a runner, you know, I don't

559
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,360
know.
I don't know, I really don't

560
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,080
know.
Maybe even collapse because I

561
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040
wasn't eating.
I wasn't, you know, really

562
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280
paying attention to myself.
And then when the person that

563
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,960
was needed came, the owner of
the company saw the problems,

564
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,240
saw everything.
And as I said, the rest of the

565
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,640
tour, yes, it was hard.
OK, So it was hard work.

566
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,320
There was a lots of things, but
not just made our department

567
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,640
hard, it was every department's
hard.

568
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,320
You know, everybody was
stretched, things were going

569
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,280
wrong, things were unexpected,
but all of those people that I

570
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,800
could see were struggling.
I asked, are you OK?

571
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,840
We had more tears, I had thank
yous and some people even went

572
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,560
higher up to say people are
struggling.

573
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,720
And that's what I loved about
this tour, people talking and

574
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,320
really I have nothing but love,
admiration for everybody on the

575
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,040
tour that I just was working
with.

576
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,760
The tour manager.
She's fantastic.

577
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,360
The production team, the crew,
my little crew and the band

578
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,720
really, really were lovely.
Far as the tour was concerned.

579
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,200
They looked after you and they
really did.

580
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,080
You know, we'd come in from a
travel day and our hotels would

581
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,800
be booked from the night before.
I know not every tour can do it

582
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
because the budget doesn't
doesn't allow that.

583
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,640
But rocking up, you know, at the
hotel on a travel day, day off

584
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,720
and you go straight to your to
your bed.

585
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,360
You've got breakfast there and
you've I've got all day to

586
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,960
relax.
You can do whatever you want.

587
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,000
First couple of let's say,
travel day, days off when only I

588
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,000
just wanted to be our own little
bubble and I knew a lot of other

589
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,400
people did as well.
And then all of a sudden, once

590
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,200
the once everything started
moving, how a normal tour does,

591
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,480
you know, it is it's tiring.
It's you know, it's everything.

592
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Once it was normal.
There was one particular time

593
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,840
where was going into Oslo and I
spoke to one of my crew members

594
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,520
and I was like talking about,
oh, you know, didn't say what

595
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,280
are you doing the next day?
I just said, have you seen this?

596
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,400
You can do this.
And she went and we looked at

597
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,880
each other and she was giving me
ideas and I was giving her

598
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,400
ideas.
And I went, is it time?

599
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,080
And it was, it was time to
actually spend the day together

600
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,480
on a day off and that for me.
And he owned that.

601
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880
And it was only like 2 weeks
into the two weeks into the

602
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,280
tour.
And it was so lovely to actually

603
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,920
go out with the group and other
people as well.

604
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,360
We had the best bus.
So on our bus was backline and

605
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,280
audio and there was us guys and
they were all we were here.

606
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,240
We said we were the best, the
best bus crew ever.

607
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280
Again, everyone was really
respectable on the bus and we

608
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,120
also wanted to hang out when we
we got places.

609
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,160
You know, we're part of our
group.

610
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Oh, we're here now we're having
a coffee or having a beer and

611
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600
this, that and the other.
And then other people will be

612
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,520
like, oh, no, no beers for me
today or whatever.

613
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,080
And everyone was like, it was
just everyone cared for each

614
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,760
other on this group and on our
bus.

615
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,680
So that was fantastic.
A day in the life of what I was

616
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,360
doing.
So let's say we've well actually

617
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600
didn't matter whether it be from
the from a track from a day off

618
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,240
the day before and we stayed in
a hotel or rolling in from the

619
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,720
bus loading.
We always got to the venue for

620
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,280
about 6:45.
So that was like generally

621
00:32:55,280 --> 00:33:00,000
leaving the hotel by 6615.
We would then rock up to the

622
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,640
venue, suss out this empty room.
We're going to turn into this

623
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,960
wonderful dining room and
kitchen area, work out where

624
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,680
everything's going to be 9 times
out of 10, set up all the

625
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,360
tables, set all the rest of it,
and then our trucks would be

626
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,800
tipped at 7:30, from 7:30 until
8:30.

627
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,680
That was our loading time.
We had to set up a full kitchen.

628
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,560
We bring all our ovens.
We bring everything in with us.

629
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400
We bring our flight cases full
of all that crockery.

630
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:35,400
We've got coffee boxes, we've
got Bam Maries for the hot

631
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:40,480
station, we've got you name it.
We, we bring everything with us.

632
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,720
We have to set up everything,
including organize all the

633
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,920
power, which can often be a real
pain in the bum as well, because

634
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,760
you've either got wrong adapters
and this and that or the powers

635
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,320
here and you need the
electrician to bring a big cable

636
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,280
and this, that and the other.
But within that hour there is a

637
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,520
full English breakfast.
I'm going to say English because

638
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,200
just a full hot breakfast, shall
we say a full hot breakfast,

639
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,880
full continental.
Everything is out within that

640
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,440
hour and and hot coffee.
I still find that amazing

641
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,199
because I'm like, how on earth
do you from the moment of

642
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,760
loading to having a full setup
within an hour with hot stuff,

643
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,800
you know, coming out for
everyone to eat and start their

644
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,239
day.
And what people forget is that

645
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,040
we then don't get to eat because
now we've, we've done all that.

646
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,040
We've, we've worked pretty much
on an empty stomach unless we've

647
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,080
what we do have breakfast on the
bus.

648
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,960
We've had a little bit of
breakfast on the bus, but you

649
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,360
generally wake up.
So like, I don't know, within 15

650
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,960
minutes to get off the bus and
run straight into the venue.

651
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,280
You grab a banana and you grab a
coffee on the way.

652
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,639
Some people don't even grab
that.

653
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
We're running in straight away.
We're running on empty, you

654
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,159
know, we're, we've set it all
up.

655
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,960
But from the moment, once that's
set up, I then go into the

656
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,639
dressing room world and I'm
organized and then I've got

657
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,719
flight cases full of alcohol,
full of this, full of that.

658
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,600
That's my little world with all
the rider generally in it

659
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,600
already.
And I go and see Rebecca, where

660
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,680
all the dressing rooms going to
do.

661
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,040
We're going to be where's the
production fridges?

662
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,960
OK, we're lugging, we're moving
fridges.

663
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,280
We're doing this, we're doing
that.

664
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,600
And then in the kitchen, they're
preparing for lunch.

665
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,280
So they're all preparing for
lunch.

666
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,080
It's all chaotic.
And it's just, yeah, it's just,

667
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,760
it's constant there.
There there are no breaks in the

668
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,920
catering world.
So that's just turning over.

669
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,680
I've left Manoli to finish the
little bits, you know, add stuff

670
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,640
and what, what not.
And actually saying that my

671
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,280
coffee machine is just decided
to make a noise.

672
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,000
I'm not too sure if you can hear
it on the bus.

673
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360
There was this fantastic coffee
machine that when we got back,

674
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,800
Manoli had to go and buy it.
So I've got this coffee machine

675
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,600
that's just decided to know talk
to me.

676
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,280
And yes, so then I would go into
all the dressing rooms, the

677
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,720
production riders, actually not
too bad, but you know, you're

678
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:51,000
lifting, lugging, I mean big
heavy boxes, this, this, that

679
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
and the other normally done by.
I always like to try and get it

680
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
done by 12.
That's like, you know, for

681
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,480
everything.
And then after that, it's onto

682
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,160
the bus stop.
So then I've got to go onto the

683
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,400
buses, all 7 buses workout what
what's needed, send out a runner

684
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,040
for that.
By the time they've done that,

685
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,680
I've come back down to my bit
where I've got lunch to serve

686
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,840
for the band, gone to serve the
lunch for the band.

687
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,600
Then I've got the cool boxes and
I take all the cool boxes all

688
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,720
the way to the stage for the,
you know, left, right front of

689
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,200
house.
Then I've got the band cool

690
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,760
boxes.
So that takes about an hour.

691
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,960
By the time you've done that,
you've found where the ice is.

692
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,440
And I know this sounds boring to
most people, but this is just

693
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,040
non-stop and lifting and
lugging, lifting and lugging

694
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,400
constantly.
By the time I've done that, my

695
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,360
runners come back with all the
shopping, putting it all out

696
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,480
into boxes, carrying it all up
to the buses.

697
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,720
Now sometimes these buses,
they're not even outside the

698
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:45,000
venue, you know, I've got to
either walk another 20 minutes

699
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,240
to get there with a trolley or
with or whatever, or up flights

700
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:53,800
of stairs which was 1 venue.
So many issues that make such a

701
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,200
simple job really just
unpleasant if I'm honest.

702
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,200
So then once all that's all
done, then I come back down to

703
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,480
my world and I've got to load
out.

704
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Now I've got a load up box.
So then it makes everything

705
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,400
quicker in the morning, I
prepare everything.

706
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,400
So I've got all the riders Kim
the not back in the box.

707
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,960
I've got all the riders in the
boxes.

708
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,160
So everything's sealed off,
ticked off.

709
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,080
Yep.
OK, we're going to Paris today.

710
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Everything's in there done.
Apart from fresh stuff,

711
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,800
everything's all in there.
Boom, that's this room.

712
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Boom, that's this room.
Boom, that's right, this, that's

713
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,640
this room.
So then the next morning when I

714
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,040
go loading straight away, I just
pull down, pull out the the

715
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,440
container from where I put it
and then I go straight to the

716
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,480
dressing rooms.
But I have to to do that then,

717
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,360
so I'm doing that.
I don't know.

718
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,640
This could be about 6:00 now by
the time I finished the buses,

719
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640
6:00 I'm doing that.
Then I'm packing everything

720
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,600
away.
Then I'm doing my lists because

721
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,840
I need for the next gig and then
for the next gig.

722
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,000
So I'm doing this by the time
I've literally closed my box,

723
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,720
it's, I don't know how I did it,
but always it was like 8:00 on

724
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:56,920
the dot, like 8:00 on the dot,
which then that was done.

725
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,640
I shot over to the front of
house and then I started

726
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,520
clearing away all the dinner
packing away, send everything to

727
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,680
the wash up.
Luckily we have wash up people

728
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,680
and their local assistants that
help us and they're always

729
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,960
amazing.
They put everything through that

730
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,480
needs to be washed, washed up,
start packing away.

731
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,360
We've got fake flowers
everywhere.

732
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,960
We have to put that in places.
We have to pack all our

733
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,040
containers again.
The kitchen's clearing out the

734
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,480
kitchen.
They're getting everything.

735
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,400
We've got the music going to
give us some energy because funk

736
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,440
enough.
Probably none of us have eaten

737
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,200
at this point because it's like,
OK, I'll eat in a minute, I'll

738
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,320
eat in a minute or I'm grabbing
a banana or what I lived on this

739
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,920
time was protein shakes.
Protein shakes saved me this

740
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,000
tour.
Finally.

741
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,480
I'm like right, OK, pack
everything away and once

742
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,000
everything was smooth running
and the changes were made, our

743
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,520
earliest loadout was 8:45.
In 45 minutes we had done

744
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,000
everything which was brilliant.
Now for the rest of the team,

745
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,280
that is their job done.
So they can go and have a

746
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,720
shower, they can go watch the
gig if they want, they can go to

747
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,320
the bus, they can relax.
But of course I'm still on

748
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,120
dressing rooms and I've got
after show food which the lovely

749
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,760
crew chief, she also helped me
do that as well.

750
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,480
So by the time that's happened
about at 9:30, the after show

751
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,080
food comes and we've got to go
back up to the buses, let all

752
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,000
the after show food up on the
buses.

753
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,960
By 10:00, I was normally able to
have a shower.

754
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,520
So I'd have a shower but put on
black stuff that I can get away

755
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,240
with as being like pajama type
style.

756
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,520
And then I probably had about, I
would say 30 minutes until the

757
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,400
gig finished.
I would then eat something.

758
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,520
If I'd say something healthy, I
would eat it, but healthy or

759
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,480
have a slice of pizza.
Well, I don't know about you,

760
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,960
but I know where my, my, my
belly's going and it was always

761
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,640
the pizza.
I did try not to, and I did try

762
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,600
and eat healthy, but depended on
the day.

763
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,440
Then we went out and we watched
the gig.

764
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:56,240
Now that for me, that was my
energy that I went to the side

765
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:00,120
of the stage, watched the gig,
it gave me the energy.

766
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,320
My lovely husband ended up
staying with me the whole time

767
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,080
to help me do clear out the
dressing rooms and the rest of

768
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,560
it.
And he also gave me energy.

769
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,280
He could have gone to sleep but
he didn't.

770
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,720
He was like Nope, we're in this
together.

771
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,960
And so anyway, we had, we had a
dance every night at the side of

772
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,320
the stage.
We just loved it.

773
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,560
Hadn't really heard of the band
apart from a couple of famous

774
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,600
songs, but by the end of it we
knew the words.

775
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,680
We absolutely loved them and
they were just incredible,

776
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,720
incredible people.
The gig.

777
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,480
Finishes 11:00 11/15 for
everybody to leave and then we

778
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,560
go back round, clear all the
cool boxes, come back to the

779
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,680
dining room, empty all the ice
out If there's still some drinks

780
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,800
leftover, which sometimes I was,
sometimes I wasn't strap them

781
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,440
all up, put them on the cases
and then wait to clear some of

782
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,360
the dressing rooms.
A lot of the stuff in the

783
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,720
dressing rooms was left because
you know, people take it, you

784
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:52,760
know when, when they had a
shower and on the way to the

785
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,360
bus.
But I still had to make sure you

786
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,880
know that I was still there.
Probably, I'd say on a good

787
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,120
night, 12:00, I was back at the
bus, latest was about 1:30.

788
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,200
So that is a long old day.
And that really is without any

789
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,480
stops whatsoever.
That's just, yeah, that's just

790
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,400
keep on going, keep on going,
keep on going, keep on going.

791
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Did I love it?
Yes, But I do it again.

792
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:21,320
Yeah.
I would do it again and I would.

793
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,760
Sorry, Marcel, I would do it
again.

794
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,200
But don't worry, I'm not going
anywhere soon.

795
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,440
I'm very happy here working at
my desk with my lovely

796
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,800
background, chatting to lovely
ladies chatting or listening to

797
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,760
myself on his learning about AI
and with our future tech

798
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,520
podcast.
I really love everything.

799
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,680
And I think one of the things I
wanted to talk to Rachel

800
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,320
because, you know, she was
saying that financial issues can

801
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,480
be a huge strain when you're on
a tour.

802
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,480
And I, I think that's, I think
that's right as well.

803
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,520
I mean, we went with, we didn't
have a lot of money when we

804
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680
went.
So we were going on tour knowing

805
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,200
that we'd come back with some
money and that would like that.

806
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,320
That would really be great for
us basically.

807
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,800
And I couldn't imagine being,
I've always said I will never be

808
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880
in debt.
So I'll never be in debt.

809
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,560
And we do live a simple life
here.

810
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,200
I'm able to live a simple life
here because we own where we

811
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
live.
There's no rent, OK, living

812
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880
expenses.
They are is going up now.

813
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,600
But we also do a lot of things
where it doesn't cost money.

814
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,920
We go for lots of walks.
We do the garden things that we

815
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,120
don't need to spend any money.
But then of course, every week

816
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,120
you do send, you spend some form
of money.

817
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,760
The electricity is going up
higher now but wanting is not

818
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,760
the same as needing.
So that's my motto for life.

819
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,240
Wanting is not the same as
needing.

820
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,360
Although I do straight away
bought a coffee machine,

821
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:53,720
actually made me laugh because
yeah, he did straight away.

822
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:55,800
He was like, can I buy a wash?
And he's asking me, can I?

823
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,160
I said, yes, it is your money,
you can do what you want with

824
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,040
it.
But at the same time I was like,

825
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,320
unless you've got any plans for
anything else right now, which

826
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,200
we will do while we're here.
Obviously I've got this job and

827
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,440
we've got many friends already.
I've just been asking Manoli to,

828
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,800
it's summer season here, so been
asking him to go and help with

829
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,000
various things.
So we're like, I know Jack of

830
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,720
all trades right now.
We can put our toes into

831
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:23,240
wherever's needed, help where as
needed, and work where as

832
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:24,480
needed.
And we just love working

833
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600
together.
So what would be The upshot of

834
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680
all of that?
I wish I had somebody else to do

835
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,680
a leading ladies podcast with,
IE Hannah about the tour just

836
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,600
now.
And like, like what?

837
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,840
Yeah.
What she took from it and

838
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,640
whether, you know, this is only
my version, remember.

839
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,400
So, you know, maybe there's
another version there, but I'm

840
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,560
going to say mine's pretty
accurate to.

841
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,840
Yeah, What happened and how I
felt, and I think coming out

842
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,560
from this, rather than me sat
here going, you've got to look

843
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,680
after yourself, you've got to do
this, you've got to do that.

844
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,440
I want to really try and say to
everybody out there, you be the

845
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,280
one to make sure you're keeping
an eye on everybody.

846
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,000
You be that person where people
can come to, to talk to and tell

847
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600
you.
Even with my crew, I could go to

848
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,880
them.
I felt that I could go to them

849
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,960
and the production side, they
were always asking me because

850
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,400
they also, they saw they didn't
know me at this point, but they

851
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,120
saw that I wasn't good.
And they were asking, am I OK?

852
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,880
You know, is it that you're
short staffed?

853
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,480
And at first I thought that was
the case.

854
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,920
I mean, we did need another
runner.

855
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,720
So I mean, I tried to explain
that, you know, we're feeding

856
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:36,520
100 people so we've got a
Transit van that is full of

857
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,320
food.
I mean you're talking thousands

858
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,240
of pounds worth of food.
All the drinks, you name it is

859
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,040
full.
That's like 1 runner is like

860
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,640
going out and buying this stuff.
Then you've got my stuff to buy.

861
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:47,960
Well, they haven't got enough
time.

862
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,880
You know, they also start at 7
and by the time it's like okay,

863
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,480
you can use him now like to go
buy your shopping.

864
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,920
It's like 2:00 in the afternoon.
The poor, the poor guy or woman

865
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,400
hasn't even eaten yet
themselves.

866
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,920
And then I've given another
massive shopping list.

867
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Then they're going to stay for
after show.

868
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,600
You know they're working again.
A good 1516 hour day and they're

869
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,080
driving.
So we did resolve something by

870
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,920
having another would help me for
a few more hours, which took so

871
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,480
much pressure off once things
I'd seen, I thought that it was

872
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,400
that we needed somebody else to
help and once things had sorted

873
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,880
itself out, the organization was
really good.

874
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,280
I did go to production.
I was like look and and the

875
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,960
owner of the company I was like
we don't need anybody else but

876
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,680
we don't need any any extra
help.

877
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,680
Don't send anybody out.
That wasn't the issue and and we

878
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040
are all good in our respective
roles.

879
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Now.
We always know that we don't get

880
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,000
caterers, don't get breaks.
You know, we I know what

881
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,960
everybody else does is intense.
It's hard work.

882
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,720
I know some people that don't
get any time to themselves, but

883
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,040
there are some crews that you
know, will have a couple of

884
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,640
hours to go and get some shut
eye or even sit down in our

885
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,240
dining room and have something
to eat.

886
00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:04,080
That's just kind of like
standard, you know, like that's,

887
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,040
that's that's what everybody
expects other teams to have is,

888
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,600
you know, food, good food, be
able to sit down to have food.

889
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,480
Or if they don't, then someone's
going to take them some food and

890
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,680
someone's going to look after
them.

891
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,720
I would love to try and have a
catering team that try and looks

892
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:25,320
after each other more on that
sense being more aware, I

893
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,920
suppose, even for even for other
crew members.

894
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,760
I mean, I had one person.
So bear in mind we a lot of the

895
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,440
times as well, the travel
journeys, especially we was

896
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,320
going in from a like a double
loading.

897
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,960
We wouldn't get there until like
10, 10:00, maybe 11.

898
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,760
And you know, like we're not
going to go in and do breakfast

899
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,920
at that point, But we'd always,
I'd always make sure there was

900
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,080
stuff on the buses so people
could eat on the buses.

901
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,000
And I always remember loading
in.

902
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,520
Well, it happens, actually
happens more often than not.

903
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:56,440
But it, it was a very nice
person on the tour.

904
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,080
He was always there first as
well.

905
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:04,040
And the cases are literally
coming into the dining room and

906
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,960
he comes in, he goes, Sarah, he
goes.

907
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,480
I know this is going to be a
stupid question, but is there

908
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,960
any coffee yet?
And I just looked and I went of

909
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,760
all people, of all people,
you're asking me that question.

910
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,920
You are watching our cases come
in now is that I know, I'm

911
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,680
sorry, I'm sorry.
That was a reason I'm tired and

912
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,880
blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, no shit.

913
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,360
It's like, I wouldn't mind a
coffee to to get this done.

914
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,640
So I don't know, maybe I'd like
a bit more awareness of saying

915
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,920
get your coffee on the bus,
guys, look after your caterers

916
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,240
and really don't expect that
there's going to be coffee and

917
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,920
everything up within 5 minutes
of the trucks being tipped.

918
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,880
So that's the only thing from me
how I'm going to leave this.

919
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,760
That ends up being quite a long
podcast.

920
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,880
Sorry.
I hope you've enjoyed it.

921
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:58,560
I would love if you know anyone
reached out to me with even if,

922
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,080
even if you are on tour right
now and you're struggling and

923
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,600
you need somebody to talk to, I
am here.

924
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,400
I am here for you.
I know you don't know me, but

925
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,160
sometimes that helps.
And reaching out can be hard.

926
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,800
It can be difficult and maybe
you don't get the answer you or

927
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,320
the results you're looking for
the first time you do it, which

928
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,600
is sad, which is really sad if
that happens like it did to me.

929
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,040
But hang in there.
That's the first thing.

930
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,080
Hang in there because there is
somebody, there's somebody on

931
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,600
that tour that's looking at you
and it's going to look after

932
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,960
you, OK?
I believe there will always be

933
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,680
that person.
Maybe not in your crew, but

934
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,920
there is going to be someone
there that's going to be looking

935
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,560
out for you.
And if not, if it's really

936
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,160
getting so, it's so, so bad.
And I'm sorry to all the crew

937
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,360
chiefs, production managers, to
everything.

938
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Just leave, get your bag and go
because your health in the midst

939
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,160
of having a breakdown when no
one is going to help you, it's

940
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,760
not worth you doing something
really drastic or making a

941
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,640
mistake that causes an accident,
causes harm to yourself, causes

942
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,840
harm to others.
Life is too short.

943
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,760
Life is far, far too short if
nobody's listening to you.

944
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,680
But I do believe that there is
people listening.

945
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,960
And like I said, if anybody you
know wants to reach out to me,

946
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,000
reach out to me anytime, I'm not
going to give my telephone

947
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,840
number here, but producer at
geezersofgear.com, drop me an

948
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,960
e-mail.
I'll send you my mobile number.

949
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,680
You can chat with me.
There's some great foundations

950
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,720
out there as well that are help,
that are helping in more ways

951
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:40,040
always than 1E Live being one
behind the scenes.

952
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,520
They're always great advocates
for mental health.

953
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,000
I think it's still got a long
way to go.

954
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:50,840
I'm not quite sure.
There's there's still parts that

955
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,520
yeah, I'm I'm not quite sure,
but maybe let's make it that

956
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,120
it's you, it's me.
We all come together and you're

957
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,800
more aware of other people's
situations and just come

958
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,120
together.
So for me, Sarah Burning leading

959
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:10,680
ladies podcast next month, I
hope that I will bring you a

960
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,000
bunch of podcasts with some
fantastic women.

961
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,240
Well, no, I'm going to not.
I hope I'm going to.

962
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,240
But for this month, you just had
me.

963
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:36,840
So on that note, bye.
Now here's the leading ladies by

964
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:43,280
Geezers of Gear on tour.
Maybe she got some stories to

965
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,760
share.
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966
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:54,320
the Geezers of Gear Rock star
ladies with some stories to

967
00:50:54,480 --> 00:51:01,720
share because La La La La la
ladies La La.

968
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:13,360
La La La La la ladies.
Yes, she's at heart.

969
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,520
Now here's the leading ladies by
kissers of Gear.

970
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,080
Rock star ladies for some
stories to share.

971
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,280
Now here's the leading ladies by
the kissers of Gear.