#295 - Amber Williams - LEADING LADIES PODCAST

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I've just got off of a recording
with a fantastic lady, Amber

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Williams.
She is the production assistant

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for Alice Cooper and the
Hollywood Vampires.

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She has been with them for 10
years.

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Can you believe that she came
highly recommended by David

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Davidian?
Thank you so much.

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Great chat, how she got into the
industry, the connections, the

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fun times she has.
So I really, really hope you

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enjoy listening or watching to
the latest leading ladies

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Geezers of Gear on tour.
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Hello and welcome to Leading
Ladies with me, Sarah Burnie.

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Now my next guest has come very,
very highly recommended by David

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Davidian, who was on Geysers of
Gear with Marcel just a couple

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of weeks ago.
And David has helped me so much

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with introducing me to some
incredible ladies.

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Amber has been the 1st to book a
recording slot and come on.

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But I'm hoping in the next few
weeks we will get a few more

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ladies that would like to be
part of Leading Ladies Podcast.

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So with Amber.
Amber has well.

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With over a decade in the
entertainment industry, Amber

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has built an impressive career
as a production coordinator and

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VIP coordinator and assistant,
working alongside legendary

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artists like Alice Cooper and
the Hollywood Vampires.

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From coordinating world tours to
ensuring seamless VIP

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experience, Amber thrives in
high pressure environments,

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bringing creativity,
adaptability and deep

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understanding of production
logistics.

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Her experience spans film,
music, and live events, having

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worked with companies like Real
FX and Bedrock Manufacturing

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before stepping into the touring
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Passionate about giving back,
Amber actively supports causes

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like the Maui Food Bank.
She also spent two months in

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Africa in a volunteer program
when she was younger through the

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YMCA of New York.
While there, she was involved in

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teaching villages about the
importance of sustainable living

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through recycling and
cultivation of their main crop,

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which actually, I found out was
peanuts.

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Amber's been amazing because
she's literally on tour now.

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She's.
Just left one venue and she's

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going to another.
They have what's known.

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I think she was saying 1/2 / 1/2
layover.

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So they've got like a daytime in
one of the hotels and she leaves

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the hotel later this evening.
So I can't thank her enough for

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wanting.
To do this with such a hectic

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schedule going on, I can't wait
to hear all about the touring

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world, what it's like for her
being part of the Alice Cooper

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camp.
And once again, thank you to

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David for connecting us, and I
hope that you all really, really

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enjoy the latest Leading Ladies
podcast.

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Hello, Amber.
Hello.

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Sarah, how are you?
I am great, I just have to.

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I've got to say it again.
So I've been waiting on another

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studio for leading ladies and
accidentally you'd been given

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the geezers of gear.
And we're both waiting and it's

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10 minutes gone.
It's 15 minutes gone.

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And I'm like, I'm sure she's
looking forward to doing it.

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And then I get a little text
message from you like, I'm here,

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so I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry.

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So good.
I feel like that's the nature of

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our industry.
You just roll with it.

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Just see what happens.
I know, but at the same time, I

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think with, with our, we're
always, we're, we're punctual.

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You know, there's a time, that's
the time, you know, it's leave

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time.
It's this time.

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If you're not on that bus, then
we're going without you.

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Yep.
Yeah, that's it.

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You know, you make your own way
to the venue like you've missed

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it.
It's your, it's your, your, your

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problem.
So I'm really happy that you're

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still here because I was even
getting slightly worried.

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I was like, OK, I'll sit.
I'll send a message like, are

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you OK, you know?
Well, thank you for waiting for

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me and it's really cool to get
to be a part of this.

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Yeah, No, thank you so much.
So basically it was David, David

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Davidian that sort of speaks
very, very highly of you.

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And he was like you, you have to
get Amber on on on your show to

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talk because he was on geese of
gear with Marcel, I think was it

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2 weeks ago?
And it's the first time that

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I've met David.
And I have to say, David, if

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you're listening, thank you so
much.

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Because what like we're now
doing this together and he's

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just the nicest man.
But really just like genuinely

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will do, will go out of his way.
I said he's really helped me

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with, you know, connecting us
together.

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And, you know, there's a few
other ladies out there and I

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just, you know, I can't thank
him enough for doing that.

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And so obviously you've been
working with him for years now.

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So you're extremely lucky.
Yeah, I'm so thankful there's

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not many people in the industry
like David, and I'm thankful

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that he and I connected 10 years
ago, known him a decade.

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That's amazing.
Seriously, very, very lucky.

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So going back to let's say, oh,
let's listen.

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Where are you now?
Where, where?

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Where's your location now?
I don't know if you can tell.

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I'm in a lovely hotel room in
Atlanta, GA right now.

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We are.
I do too.

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It's I wish we could stay.
We are.

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We're three shows into Alice's
Alice Cooper's 2025 tour, and so

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we're on a split drive from
Greensboro, NC to Mobile, AL.

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So we're here for a couple
hours, then we get on the bus

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and go.
No way.

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OK, so you're literally, I
wondered because I knew David

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had already left and then I was
thinking, so I'm sure you're

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like, I'm sure you're on tour
with him.

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But I was like, and I'm trying
to look at the tour dates and I

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couldn't work it out.
But literally you're you're

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doing it in between a step.
Oh yes.

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And have even more admiration
for you right now.

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Really.
That's so excited.

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I was to do this.
I'm like day off.

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I'm talking to Sarah.
Oh my.

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I feel truly honoured with that.
Because like, especially like

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the first first, the beginning
part of the tour, you know,

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you're just getting everything
into a nice pattern and a nice

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groove.
And often you are the tired.

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You certainly don't want to talk
to anyone, and you'd certainly

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don't want to see anyone.
I like people, so it's it's

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good.
I do like sleep too, but you

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know.
We're pretty similar then

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because I love that.
I love sleep and I do love

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people, but you know, like a
nice, a nice mixture.

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So how long have you got now?
Have you, are you literally like

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you've got like a couple of
hours and then you head off or

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have you got a night there now?
No.

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So we got in around 6:00 AM and
then we will leave tonight at

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11:30 PM.
Oh, wow.

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OK, so you kind of just got your
rest and that's pretty cool.

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They're doing that and not
driving.

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What's the reason for that?
I I've never done that before.

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So driver hours and distances.
So depending on when I'm not, I

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don't remember the rules in the
UK but here.

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So it's like if they drive a
certain amount of hours, they

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have to have like a 24 hour
break or 12 hour break.

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And so that's why we had to pick
a halfway point that would

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accommodate their hours to not
only get us here, but to get us

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to the next gig so we don't have
to stop again.

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I got you.
OK.

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I said.
I've never done Yeah.

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I've never had like a daytime
basically in a hotel, you know,

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with either just they've either
been like double drivers or

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triple drivers drivers to get us
in that way or it's been that

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we've stayed somewhere for 24
hours, you know.

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Yeah, No, UK's cool about that,
having double drivers because we

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use like Phoenix buses a lot and
we get double drivers for that.

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But in the States we don't do
that so much.

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I don't know why to be honest.
Oh really?

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So it's just normally just one
one driver.

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Yeah, unless it's like a stupid
long haul then sometimes.

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But it's not.
We get them more in the UK, in

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Europe than over here.
And I'm surprised at that

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because the distances in, in
the, in the States is like like

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a lot bigger than, you know,
generally in like the UK or

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going through Europe.
So I would have thought it would

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be the other way.
I haven't actually travelled

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through America on a bus.
I was fortunate to be the

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advance team for Coldplay that
just flew everywhere.

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I say, I say I was.
I was like I say that I was when

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I say the word wasn't my lost my
train of thought completely.

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I was fortunate.
But actually I love the buses

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like I really do like.
Do you enjoy going on the buses?

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Oh, it's, it's my favorite way
to travel, to be honest with

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you.
Like I look at other tours where

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they fly everywhere.
They have their own planes and

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flying stuff.
I like being able to get on the

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bus, get my world situated.
I don't have to keep packing up

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to to move it, to repack, to do
all the things.

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And I sleep so much better on
the buses than anywhere.

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Like once tours over, I go home.
It takes me a week for me to

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sleep because I'm used to like
the movement and the rumble and

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I love buses.
No, me too.

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I've always found I have to have
the bottom bunk though.

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I have to have a bottom bunk on
a on a on a tour bus.

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But apart from that, like I do,
I also just you get in there,

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you sleep and yeah, it's just,
it's just, it's your home, isn't

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it?
Yeah, 1000% and I used to be the

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bottom bunk person until I hit
36 and my knees are like Nope,

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I'm like OK, I got to do a
middle.

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That's so funny.
So I've got lots of things to

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ask you.
I mean, now obviously we're

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talking about the tour.
So you basically, you started,

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you know, you started with Alice
like over a decade ago.

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Yes.
So I started, I actually started

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with Alice on his other project,
The Hollywood Vampires

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originally.
And so that's Johnny Depp, Joe

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Perry at the time.
We had Matt Sorem in the band

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and Duff Mckagan, and eventually
I'll tell you the story of how

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that ended up transpiring.
But yeah, so that's where I

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started with Alice.
And then a year later he was

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like, I need AVIP coordinator.
And I was like, well, shit,

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twist, shoot, twist my arm, why
don't you?

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And I started and then it turned
into, well, I also need a

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production assistant.
So then it became VIP production

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assistant and then it became, Oh
well, we need extra people in

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the show.
So it became VIP production

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assistant performer and then.
Really.

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What a ride.
But how did you initially like,

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let's say, get the job?
Like, you know, how did that all

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come about?
Because you weren't actually in

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touring before this, were you?
No, SO tiny been a back story

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about me.
So my grandfather, Shep Gordon,

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and so he's been in the music
industry forever and ever.

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And Alice was his very first
client.

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He did Teddy Pendergrass, Luther
Vandross, Gypsy Queen, Blondie,

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Ben Vereen, just to name a few.
And so I never wanted to be in

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the music industry.
It was like my rebellion.

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I'm like, no, I don't want to do
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So I ended up, right before
touring, I worked for an

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animation studio out of Santa
Monica called Real Effects, and

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I was their business development
and marketing coordinator.

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I was in a relationship.
It didn't go the way I wanted it

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to and I kind of fell into a
depression because I wasn't sure

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where my life was going to go.
And my grandfather called me up

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one day and he goes, so I know
you're going through this, but

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how would you feel about running
away and joining the circus for

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a month?
I.

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Was like, yeah, sure, OK.
And so he and I had talked it

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was only going to be for a month
until they could find someone.

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And I ended up falling in love
with it.

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And here I am, 10 years later.
I think that is the best story,

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really.
Literally like from, from, you

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know, maybe like going through
heartache, depression.

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Now I've been there, you know,
I've had that, had that done.

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And then to be asked like, you
know, why don't you go away, you

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know, go away just for a month,
that's it.

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And then you fell in love with
it.

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Like really backfired.
On him, he didn't want me to.

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He didn't want me to worry.
He was thinking like, oh, I'll

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get out there for a month and
I'll be like, oh, this sucks.

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I'm over it.
And so now he'll still will sit

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down, have conversations.
So you're still going to keep

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touring?
I'm like, yeah, I love it.

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Even years later, He's like, so
Are you sure about this?

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Yeah, I'm sure.
And that's funny actually,

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because Shep, the net, his name
came up probably was was with

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David, actually.
So yes, I'm so I've already

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heard about like your granddad,
but I didn't I didn't put the

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two together.
So, yeah, so that's that,

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that's.
To be fair, we don't.

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If you Google him, we don't look
anything alike and we don't have

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the same we're, I mean, his
adopted granddaughter, let me

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put it that way.
Yeah, but it's the fact that

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that's, no, that's your
granddad, you know, like it's

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the connection and labor because
obviously you'd sent me all the

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notes and everything.
I had seen it and I was like,

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well, so I don't understand what
the connection is there because

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again, I saw his name pop up and
I was like, I've never, I've

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never met him myself.
And so I was like, I wonder what

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the connection and there we are.
So that's that's the connection.

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I'm.
I'm originally from New York but

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growing up so my grandmother
lived in New York with us.

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I have three siblings so I have
4 kids and then my grandfather

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lived in Hawaii so I split my
time between the two.

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So I would we would spend
Christmases and summer there.

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And then, you know, growing up,
where we grew up wasn't a bad

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place, but it was like there was
really nothing to do except for

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not OK things kind of.
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So I decided to call Shep up and
was like, I found this great

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school on the Big Island of
Hawaii.

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I could go to school there, fly
to you on the weekends and build

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a bond because we never really
saw him that often.

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And so 2001, I moved to Hawaii
by myself.

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I was in 8th grade and graduated
high school there and so so

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between the two.
But that's the mate.

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So even at a young age, you kind
of well, you had that sort of

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that go get you inside to say,
actually, no, I don't want to be

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here in this location.
I want to go somewhere

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different.
You knew that Shep was over in

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Hawaii and took took a fantastic
opportunity to go there because

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when I was looking sort of
through like, like your studies,

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was it criminal?
Was it, What was it?

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What was was it you've studied?
Criminal justice.

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I got my bachelor's in it.
So like, you know, so going

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from, yeah, going from that, did
you, did you see a career, like

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a career path that way or like
where did you, where did it take

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you from from university to the
next stage?

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Oh God, I'm going to sound like
such a psycho admitting this.

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So growing up, I was obsessed
with, we had this TV show called

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America's Most Wanted, and it
was hosted by John Walsh and his

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son had gotten kidnapped.
And so he started this show to

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like bring awareness to
criminals in America and things

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like that that were missing that
the cops couldn't find.

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So it's like a tip line kind of
thing.

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And I was so obsessed with the
show.

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I would print out every single
person on the show and I would

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have like a little filing
cabinet.

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And I was like, I'm going to
find this person.

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I'm going to find this person.
My mom's like, you're out of

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your damn mind.
And and then I got obsessed with

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like The X-Files, which is about
the Federal Bureau of

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Investigation and all this
stuff.

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So I was like, I'm going to go
to school for justice studies

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and I want to go.
And I had a whole game plan, a

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whole thing and in my mind, but
someone very, very close to me

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got arrested and falsely accused
of a crime.

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And it was then that I realized
I didn't have the stomach to go

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to law school and potentially
convict an innocent person or to

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mess up and let a bad guy off.
Like I couldn't defend a bad

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guy.
And so that's when I really kind

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of had to take a hard look at
what I wanted, what I could

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stomach.
And, and so that's a roundabout

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way of me going into the
animation industry.

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But that.
I'm upset.

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Again, a great thing to realize
that actually, can I do that,

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whether it's, you know, a bad
guy, a good guy, you know, am I

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going to like, you know, their
life is in my hands and.

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I actually, I've never really,
I've never looked at it that

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like that way before, but I
certainly couldn't do it like

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you know.
That's what I did.

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Yeah, so that's, you know, that.
But again, just to realise, to

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realise after you've gone
through, you know, all the all

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the education that you've gone
through it then to realise

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actually, no, I can't.
And then what made you go into

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the animation like, I mean,
because that's completely, you

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know.
Well, to be so the gentleman who

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owned the company, his name's
Tom Kartsotis and amazing guy.

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He started Fossil watches and
after I got out of animation, I

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actually helped.
I was part of the creative team

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that started this other company
called Shinola watches through

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him and he was a neighbor and
saw that I I'm a 36 year old

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child like I thought stitch from
Lilo a stitch on.

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I was wearing my stitch Crocs
and he saw I loved the animation

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and they were starting a project
called free birds, which was an

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animated movie about turkeys
traveling back in time to get

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turkeys taken off of the
Thanksgiving menu and to put

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things on it and I like sold.
Oh my.

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Goodness, you have to.
You don't have to tell me the

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what's the name of that one?
I'll check that out.

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Free birds.
I was called free birds.

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It's got it's got Woody
Harrelson and Owen Wilson

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voicing the two main turkeys
and.

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Even have seen this right hubby
get that one down free bird and

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from your OK because in one part
of your life as well you've been

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a dance teacher there was that
growing up you wanted to dance

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or.
Sort of kind of that.

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Hopefully it'll make sense.
So growing up, my mom,

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grandmother, she got myself, my
brother and my sisters into

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dance and I fell in love with
this, especially tap dancing.

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Like that was my jam.
Like I loved it.

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And when I was going to Arizona
State in which located in

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Phoenix, AZ or Tempe, AZ, I
actually lived with Cheryl and

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Alice Cheryl's, Alice Cooper's
wife.

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And she owned a dance studio
called Destiny Dance.

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And she's known me pretty much
my whole life.

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And she was like, I need a dance
teacher.

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Like, will you come in and do
ages like 3:00 to 6:00 for me?

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And I was like, yeah,
absolutely.

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And it was so much fun.
Like, I love being with the

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kids.
I love interacting with them.

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And they're some of the funniest
people.

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I mean, I travel the world and
meet funny people.

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The kids are funny.
They're like little drunk

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people.
I love it.

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They just say what they.
Want exactly they they speak the

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truth and we laugh that it's the
truth.

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And if it was, if we got to say
it would be like, oh, she can't.

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Say them.
You're right.

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Yeah.
So as you can tell, my life is

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like all over the place.
It's all over the place, but

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it's still, you know,
everything's, you know,

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connected in a way.
I mean, you know, like that was

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your neighbor, you know, for the
animation, you know, So it is,

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it's I, I'm a big believer and
I've said this before on here.

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It's not necessary.
Obviously, it's not necessarily

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what like what you know, it's
also who you know, you know, who

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you know, can open the doors to
many, many things.

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But then I believe that it's now
you, you've, you've, you're

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there, you're doing it.
It's not because of your uncle,

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your neighbor that you actually,
you know, was successful within

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those jobs.
It's because of the person that

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you are.
I agree.

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With that, and I just think
that's, and I do, you know, a

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lot of times people, you know,
they can say, oh, you know, it's

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because of this, because of
that.

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But actually, no, it boils down
to the way, you know, everybody

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is, you know, each individual
person.

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I've said on here before as
well, sometimes I don't know how

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there's certain people that
still got jobs and they're

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terrible at the jobs.
Like, I don't know, there's just

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a, there is a rule.
There's, I don't know, there's a

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special hidden one for these
people that get to keep the jobs

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all the time.
And I don't know how, but there

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are a lot of incredible people
out there.

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Yeah, a lot of incredible
people.

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So tell me, obviously you took
the job 10 years ago and tell me

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just just just tell me
everything about just what

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happened like your first, the
first time on a bus, Like how

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was that the first time being
part of the tour?

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Well.
Yeah, You know, it was a So

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Alice's show is very theatrical.
It's got a lot of moving pieces.

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You know, he gets killed every
night.

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He's got a giant snake, all the
things and the Hollywood

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vampires is more a rock band,
like just straight throw and go.

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So that was a little a little
more mild than Alice's show.

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And we debuted at the Oh, I'm
having a brain fart.

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It was either at the Roxy or the
Rainbow.

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I think it was the we debuted in
LA and then we went and took it

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to rock in Rio.
So I went from 200 people to

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200,000 people.
So that blew my mind and trying

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to get my headspace into that
rhythm.

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Whereas, you know, when we
started in LA, it was just us

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and working with, you know, the
one promoter, the building and

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then going there.
And then it's like you got to

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deal with runners, catering,
translators, all the different

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things.
So it was a complete my fuck a

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little bit because I was like,
wait, that was easy.

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This is kind of hard.
But once I got into the rhythm,

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I was like, this is great, I can
do this all.

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Yeah.
And then I mean, the challenge

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is that must have come with it.
Yeah, it was.

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It was.
But you know what the cool thing

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about the vampires was?
Everyone was, was and still are

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very excited about them.
And we went down to Rock and Rio

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with there's a hearing company
here called Starkey.

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And so we went down there and
you know, a lot of people put

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like the Johnny Depp's, the
Alice Cooper's, the Joe Perry's

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on a big pedestal.
And what we ended up getting to

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do was they found a hundred
children, men, women and

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children who had hearing loss.
And they stood in a room and fit

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every single person with a
hearing aid.

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So a little girl's first time
hearing a voice was Captain Jack

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Sparrow or Alice Cooper.
And so that's kind of what made

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me cemented why I wanted to stay
in the touring industry, because

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00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,160
these guys are just humans.
But to see the impact that they

446
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,360
have on other people, it's
really cool and really humbling.

447
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,920
Like, I never thought I'd be
hanging with Captain Jack, but

448
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,840
you know, and.
I mean, I was looking through

449
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,920
all your photos and I was like,
and like just everything like

450
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,680
from family photos to, you know,
work photos and I was like, you

451
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,760
really like, and all the photos,
you're always smiling, you're

452
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,360
always like, and I just like
this.

453
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,720
It just tells this huge, huge
story just in on your Instagram.

454
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,640
Like it was just so cool, just
like flicking through everything

455
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
and you have to tell me because
obviously you've mentioned that

456
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,760
you were like a performer as
well.

457
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,680
Is that when you was on the
stage in like the nurses outfit?

458
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,520
Yes, I've been a nurse, I've
been a big baby.

459
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:16,680
I've cut Alice's head off.
I currently I play a fangirl who

460
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,360
runs on stage and Jason from
Friday the 13th comes up and

461
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,960
slits my throat.
So you never know what you're

462
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200
going to be.
You know, Alice, he's crazy.

463
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,160
He when he hires you, he
promises you three things.

464
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240
You're going to get paid, you're
going to see the world and

465
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,680
you're probably going to get
stitches.

466
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280
I've gotten the 1st 2.
The only thing I've gotten is a

467
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,560
concussion.
So I haven't gotten.

468
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Stitches.
Sorry Marcel, when can I join?

469
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,520
No, Alice is great, you know,
with his show, it's everyone has

470
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,280
a role.
So, you know, a guitar tech

471
00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,360
might be a zombie.
You know, his wife performs in

472
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,520
the show.
Our carp who builds the stage,

473
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,200
he's a giant 13 foot tall Frank
and Alice and Jason who kills

474
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,400
me.
So there's always a part for

475
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,840
someone in the show.
And Alice loves putting people

476
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720
in the show.
How awesome.

477
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
That's like that.
That'd be a literally a dream

478
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,480
for me.
Like just just to just to be on

479
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440
the stage and just run and be
like a crazy zombie or

480
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960
something.
I'm sure we can make that

481
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640
happen.
We're playing in Athens, so I'm

482
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,320
not sure how far that is from
you, but you should come to the

483
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,320
show do.
You know what?

484
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,680
David said the same to me.
He was like, you know, you've

485
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840
got to come over to the show in
Athens.

486
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,920
But it's actually it's a
festival, isn't it?

487
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,360
Yeah, yeah.
But still.

488
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Yeah, I still, I just always
like, I always, I always know,

489
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,640
like with festivals, it's always
if there's more strain on the on

490
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,680
the crew and everybody when it's
a festival, because sometimes

491
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
you're like, you know, a little
bit under what you'd normally

492
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,320
be.
You're not taking the full crew.

493
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,720
So I normally like stay away
from the festivals just because.

494
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,800
But so I said to David, if you
come back and do a stadium gig,

495
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,120
then I'm there.
All right.

496
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,760
Fair enough.
Fair enough.

497
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,600
So get so because you are, I
mean you're heading over to

498
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Europe, when will that be in the
next month?

499
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:26,000
In six weeks?
No June.

500
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,560
End of June.
July month of July.

501
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Oh, it's July.
I had it the other way around.

502
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400
I had it.
It was, yeah, I had it with.

503
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,520
It was before, Yeah.
So we're travelling the world.

504
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,320
I mean, how have you found it 10
years ago to now like have what,

505
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,920
what changes have you seen?
You know, do you feel that

506
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:50,440
there's any changes And not just
being a lady, I know this is,

507
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,120
you know, about the ladies in
the world, but you know, just in

508
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,680
general and as a lady, you know,
like, have you seen a lot of

509
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680
changes and what's your
perspective now on everything?

510
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Yeah, I have seen a lot of
changes And you know, to be

511
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,120
honest with you, I feel like a
lot of the changes I'm seeing is

512
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,880
from post pandemic where a lot
of people in our industry left

513
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440
because of the uncertainty.
Like were we going to come back?

514
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,640
And if we came back, we get shut
down again.

515
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,600
And you know, everything from
runners to riggers to stage

516
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:30,720
managers to production managers,
like starting to realize how

517
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,840
volatile our industry can be and
then leaving.

518
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,880
So now we have this new group of
people, I don't want to say a

519
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,120
generation of people, but a new
group of people inserting

520
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,240
themselves into the industry and
watching them learn.

521
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,480
Comparing the this new group to
the guys who've been doing it

522
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,000
for years and grizzled, you
know, that that roadie that's

523
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,120
like, yeah, I'm 26 years old,
but he looks like he's 89 and

524
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,440
like the guy that you get the
wisdom from and this the cool

525
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720
backstories, all this stuff.
So there's definitely been a

526
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,560
change.
Been both good and bad.

527
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,800
It's been good because fresh
faces and can't be this industry

528
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,360
going and bad sometimes because
of the lack of experience.

529
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240
Yeah, makes sense.
Like, and I'm not trying to

530
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,160
poopoo on them.
You know, it's it's the learning

531
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,480
game.
We all got out here.

532
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,520
We didn't know what we were
doing and we're all learning.

533
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,760
But it's still fun.
It's still a small, big industry

534
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,640
and.
It is.

535
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,280
I mean, I, I don't really, I
didn't realize quite how like,

536
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,160
you know, it's, it's, it's a
huge industry, but just quite

537
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,960
how small it is, you know,
especially now we're doing

538
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600
geezers of gear and with people
we get on, you know, everyone

539
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,360
knows each other, everyone's
connecting, whether it be, you

540
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,240
know, from anything from
manufacturers to artists to, to

541
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920
everything like we are a big,
small family.

542
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,720
And you know, there's something
very special about that.

543
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:08,440
I would probably say the
changes, I would say in my eyes,

544
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,680
people have got karma.
I don't know if that's the

545
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,320
wrong, but I believe that you
mean my eyes think so fully.

546
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,800
You know, even I kind of joined
touring towards the end.

547
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,200
I would say, oh, not the end of
the crazy days because there's

548
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,920
it still was crazy.
But now it is very much, you

549
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,280
know, we're there to work.
You've got to be more

550
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,080
responsible about things.
Not everybody you know and each

551
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,480
of their own who you know what
you what you can do.

552
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Same with the musicians too,
because you know, like back then

553
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,200
it was like sex, drugs,
rock'n'roll.

554
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,800
And like, that's with my
friends.

555
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,400
That's how they interpret what I
do.

556
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,520
And I'm like it's cold pizza,
Pepcid, AC and Diet Coke.

557
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Like it's not.
And I mean even 10 years ago

558
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,480
because Alice has been sober for
a million years and stuff.

559
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,880
But like even a lot of the other
bands who that was the whole

560
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,000
persona, like you had to be the
bad boy.

561
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,560
You had they all, you know,
we'll sit outside, we'll have a

562
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,719
barbecue and go on the bus and
go to bed.

563
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,320
There's no ragers or anything
crazy like that.

564
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,800
Yeah, and that's, I mean, even,
I mean, you know, I've had a few

565
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,000
party buses, let's say my time
and they're amazing, you know,

566
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,600
But the last time, the last tour
I did, I I actually did that

567
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080
completely sober, like the whole
way through.

568
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,159
And it was the best I'd ever
felt.

569
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:33,360
And I was like, you know, I
couldn't do it with a hangover

570
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,920
anymore.
Whether that's an age thing, I

571
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,000
don't know.
But you know, I want to be on

572
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,080
the ball.
I want to be feeling good and,

573
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,440
and, and doing yeah, just
feeling good.

574
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,679
And the amount of people that
were also like, Oh yeah, we

575
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,440
don't drink and there's like non
alcoholic beers on the bus.

576
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,760
I've never heard of that.
Blue puts a non alcoholic beer,

577
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,639
you know.
So it's good to see the change.

578
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,680
But then it's also, it's really
sad as well.

579
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,760
I think it's it's it's sad that
it's, you know, we've lost that

580
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,720
rock'n'roll side of things.
I mean it's still there.

581
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:08,320
I'm not saying it's not there,
still there, but you know,

582
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,920
turning things into more
obviously corporate and the

583
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,920
schedule.
I mean, you know, your schedule.

584
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,360
I mean like now you've got a day
off in the hotel.

585
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,360
I'm presuming that you'll be
travelling overnight and you'll

586
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,520
arrive tomorrow and load in.
Is that is that?

587
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,000
Yeah, yes.
Yeah, and Alice doesn't stop.

588
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:33,600
I mean, he's 76, about to be 77
actually tomorrow, and he'll do

589
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,920
three shows in a row.
Thank you.

590
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,720
I'll let.
Him know?

591
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:38,880
Oh no.
Sure buddy.

592
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,920
He'll do three shows in a row,
day off, 3 shows in a row, day

593
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,320
off.
He doesn't stop.

594
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400
Wow, he's in.
Better shape than me.

595
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:55,440
That's crazy and the fact that I
mean obviously he loves it that

596
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,360
much that, you know, he wants to
do it as well because if he

597
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,640
didn't want to do it then you
would say no, I do 2 shows or I

598
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,280
do whatever.
I mean, do you think that he

599
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,040
feels the pressure now that he
has to do more or is really that

600
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,320
he just loves it?
He he loves it like he, I hope

601
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,280
I'm allowed to say this.
Sorry, Alice, if you see this

602
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,400
and you don't agree, but I think
he likes the structure and he

603
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,560
likes the performing because
like when he's home, he's

604
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,800
accessible and like can twiddle
his thumbs.

605
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,280
But out here he's got a strict
schedule where it's like up in

606
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,960
the morning to play golf, go to
the mall, interviews, nap, show

607
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,800
bus, poker, wake up, do it all
over again the next day.

608
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:46,560
But he genuinely, genuinely
loves performing.

609
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480
I've never seen that man mad a
day in my life.

610
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520
He'll get mad if he messes up
something in the show.

611
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,560
He'd be like, man, I came out
too early and that will eat at

612
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,720
him because he wants to deliver
the best show he can.

613
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,480
And I'm like, no one noticed,
you're fine.

614
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,000
And I've again, I've heard so
like I haven't seen I haven't

615
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,640
seen the nice Cooper show or
Hollywood vampires.

616
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:17,240
I haven't, but like live, but
the people that I've been

617
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,520
speaking to, they're just like,
it is the best, like the

618
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,360
performance, the everything.
And even Marcel, my boss was

619
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,080
like, I have to come and see,
see, see again this year.

620
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080
So you might even you might
actually meet myself somewhere.

621
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,320
Where when you're when you're
in.

622
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Yeah.
But you know, hope so.

623
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,800
Yeah.
Just, I mean, to have that

624
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,320
amount of energy, you know,
we're going to say the age as

625
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,680
well.
But I, you know, I don't

626
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,600
necessarily think that it is an
age thing, but it's just how you

627
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,840
keep yourself healthy.
So the tour itself, like he

628
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,320
keeps himself healthy.
I'm presuming like the diet that

629
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,720
he's eating.
Do you have a like a, like a

630
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,560
personal chef that goes with you
as well?

631
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,360
Do you have to coordinate that
or just locally?

632
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,640
You cannot do you coordinate
with the local like catering and

633
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,960
like on site like.
How does it work for you?

634
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,560
So in the States, we'll
coordinate with the the local

635
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360
venues and their catering
companies and all that.

636
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,400
And when we're over in Europe, a
lot of times we'll get a

637
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,640
catering company that will tour
with us so we can give them our

638
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,560
dietary restrictions, our
allergies, our, and then they

639
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,560
get into a rhythm where they
know like, OK, tonight, Alice

640
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,120
having plain chicken breasts and
broccoli like so.

641
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680
But it's, it's, it's tough out
here to, to.

642
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,760
Maintain a healthy diet.
I, I, it's, I mean, but when you

643
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,640
finish or you know, you've,
you've loaded up, loaded out,

644
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,120
got onto the bus and there's,
you know, some kind of take away

645
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,960
that's there.
And every night you, so every

646
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,760
morning you wake up, you're
like, I'm not having that after

647
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,560
show food tonight.
I'm not having it.

648
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:58,640
You get on the bus and you're
like, oh, OK, we'll have it

649
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,520
tonight and not tomorrow.
Oh, it's horrible.

650
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,560
Like I I try to not get after
show food because I wake up and

651
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,400
I'm like like fried food when
you go right to bed.

652
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,840
That's the thing that sucks that
are not sucks.

653
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,960
But my boyfriend tours with us
as well.

654
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,240
So I won't get after show food
and he'll get after show food.

655
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:22,040
I'm like, OK, that fried catfish
looks really good.

656
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:26,400
And I'm like.
So that's great.

657
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,840
So you're actually you tour with
your partner as well, your

658
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,960
boyfriend.
I do.

659
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,240
I do.
He's been with.

660
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,480
Sorry.
Go ahead.

661
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680
No, no.
No, no, I was going to say so

662
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,880
did you I presuming that you met
each other like working on the

663
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,840
tour?
Yes, he's been with, he's been

664
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Alice's guitar tech for well
over a decade.

665
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,600
And so, yeah.
See, again, not, I'm not saying

666
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,200
that it's, but how wonderful to
be in a relationship and you're

667
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,200
touring with each other, you
know, you obviously get on

668
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,400
really well and you know.
You can really just bounce off

669
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,960
of each other's by, you know,
just seeing each other, you

670
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,520
know, you know each other.
You've got your jobs, you're

671
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,600
working, but then you're
together and you're travelling

672
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,480
the the world together.
That's, that's that's fantastic.

673
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:22,800
Really.
I know some people, yeah, I do

674
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
know some people that can't talk
with their partners.

675
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,200
It's just they're deny.
Oh, OK, yeah.

676
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,360
And you know, I mean, for me,
like I, I generally do, we spend

677
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,480
with my, my husband, we spend
like 24/7 or not literally 24/7.

678
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,720
But you know, when we if we have
to, we love it.

679
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,800
You know, it's when we're apart,
we're like, miss you, Hardy.

680
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200
That's how we are.
And like, like you were saying,

681
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,840
I know people who cannot tour
their significant other or if

682
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,520
they tour, they're like, we want
separate hotel rooms.

683
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,760
We don't even want to be in the
same hotel room.

684
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,600
And I'm like, I can't imagine
not being in a hotel room with

685
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,920
him when we're on the road.
You're the same.

686
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,840
Yeah, seriously.
I know.

687
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,200
I know people like that as well
and I'm like, I don't understand

688
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,920
it.
Surely the the best thing you

689
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,040
can do is go and be with your
partner at this time rather than

690
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,840
like, I don't know, they're like
2 rooms down or something like

691
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,760
just crazy, really crazy was.
Going to watch us and be like

692
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,120
take the other room.
Take.

693
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,120
The Yeah, Go on.
Take it, take it, take it, take

694
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,160
it.
I hope he's not trying to sleep

695
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,000
now, is he?
No, no, I sent about with the

696
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,400
boys.
They're.

697
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
They're travelling around.
Yes.

698
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,280
Yeah, I, I've been to Atlanta.
Well, a couple times my father

699
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,640
actually said if he used to live
there.

700
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,800
So when he said Atlanta, I do, I
do like Atlanta.

701
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,600
And so have you got here?
Is there on?

702
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,280
Oh, he's not now.
This was like when I was a kid,

703
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,080
like he he went out there to to
live years ago.

704
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,360
But I have great memories of.
Yeah, Atlanta and all the

705
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,560
suburbs around it.
So, yeah, very a place close to

706
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,800
my.
Yeah.

707
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,520
One day I'll get back over that
way.

708
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,760
I was actually in Vegas in
December and I hadn't been to

709
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:17,520
the states for years and years.
It's changed a lot, yeah.

710
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,160
I'm sure you saw this year and
all the things in Vegas, yeah.

711
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Yes, all the, all, the, all the
glitz in the in Vegas, Grand

712
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,880
Canyon and all that, that was
pretty cool.

713
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,400
But travelling the world, I
mean, this is something that I

714
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,760
think we are so lucky to have
done.

715
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,400
And you for you to be still,
still travelling the world and

716
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,120
for the people that you meet.
And there was there was a saying

717
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,760
that you'd put like, oh, what
was it now?

718
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,960
So like just just be frigging
kind.

719
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,200
Something something like that,
you know, like, yeah, kind of

720
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,240
like motto to life was just, you
know, just be kind.

721
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:06,600
And it's so true because I can
just tell by you already that

722
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,680
you give, you give good things,
you know, and you know, you

723
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,520
watch.
Someone will phone me up.

724
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,440
Go.
No, she's really horrible.

725
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,760
Really.
I'm joking.

726
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,160
I'm joking.
I was like, who called, you

727
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:29,000
know, No, I, you know, and in
our in this industry, in any

728
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:34,560
production and actually in life,
I genuinely believe that you get

729
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:39,360
farther with kindness until,
until a person gives you a

730
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,360
reason to not be kind, still be
kind, but be firm.

731
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,000
But, and I'm not, you know,
trying to make it all flowers

732
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,200
and sunshine because there are
days where I want to RIP a

733
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,960
runner's head off or something.
But I see so many like

734
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,800
production managers, tour
managers, like RIP someone's

735
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,760
head off for something so
inconsequential.

736
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:08,160
Like sorry, your oat milk was
not oats grown from very.

737
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,720
I don't know, I'm making stuff
up, but it's like I'm like.

738
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,800
Why do I understand?
I need to be that way.

739
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Yeah, I think, oh, we've, we've
been kind of trained that it's

740
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,360
acceptable to be that way and
it's not, you know, we, we're,

741
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,960
we're forgetting our manners.
We're forgetting literally that

742
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,200
we are human beings.
There's a lot of, you know,

743
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,640
there's a lot of emotions that
go into touring.

744
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,200
You know, I've spoken that about
that before on here.

745
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,960
It it's a roller coaster.
I mean, you are very lucky, you

746
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,040
know, you have your partner,
you're travelling together, you

747
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,480
can release any emotion that you
have or any woes or anything

748
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,200
like that.
But some people, you know, they

749
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200
are on their own, maybe they
they're excellent at their job,

750
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:59,160
but they're not really that good
at communicating and that whole

751
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,400
roller coaster, you know, and
you get somebody that's then

752
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,640
nasty to you for whatever
reason.

753
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,400
Like you said, the milk isn't
made from this or that or who

754
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,760
cares?
You know, but then you have to

755
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,480
go, yes, yes, I'll sort it.
Yes, yeah.

756
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,600
And then you go crawl into your
bunk and close your curtain and

757
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,680
cry and wake up and do it again
the next day.

758
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,560
Yeah, and do it again the next
day.

759
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,160
So that puts a lot of that's a,
like I said, an emotional roller

760
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:34,000
coaster, you know, but for you,
for for anyone that's on the end

761
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,880
of someone being horrible, you
know, or not kind, shall we say.

762
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,160
And I'm a big believer in being
kind and being kind to everybody

763
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,520
doesn't make you sometimes.
I often think am IA sucker for

764
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,000
being that way, you know,
because then that rattles in my

765
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,160
brain.
I'm like, you know, but I don't

766
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,920
think, yeah, I don't think we
are, you know, I just think that

767
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,560
we are.
Yeah, we get the job done at the

768
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,120
end of the day.
And you know, maybe like

769
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,840
sometime every now and then, you
know, I'll, I'll check in with

770
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760
like my, the runners, we hire
stuff and I'm like, oh, is your

771
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,880
dad a fan or someone or
something?

772
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,840
And if they are like, I'll try
to get Alice to sign something

773
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:22,120
for the dad and that will make
that person's day for God knows

774
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,760
how long.
And I'm like, I'd rather send

775
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,800
someone home feeling good.
Then why break them down and

776
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,360
make them feel like crap?
Like, you know.

777
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:36,040
Exactly.
And you get you basically you,

778
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,320
you, you get the best out of
people as well.

779
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,600
You know, like 1000.
Percent.

780
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:45,520
And I wish that a lot of people
would take, you know, your

781
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,400
attitude towards it because you
know, you, you know, I've worked

782
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:49,960
with some really horrible
people.

783
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:55,400
And then I'm just like, you
know, I, I, I don't shut down.

784
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,160
I still do my job, but I'm not,
as you know, I wouldn't go above

785
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,960
and beyond.
Whereas, you know, you've got

786
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,920
somebody being nice.
I will go above and beyond and I

787
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:11,080
will really, you know, I'll get
past everything to get that done

788
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:17,120
and extra speedy time, you know.
Yeah, it's a great way to be.

789
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,120
It's a great sort of, yeah.
It was great character to be.

790
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,920
And hopefully in return, you
know, you get nice people as

791
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,760
well, you know, giving it back.
And it's been, you know, so far,

792
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,760
in my end, it's been, I've been
very fortunate.

793
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,680
And, you know, with the
vampires, there's overlap

794
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,800
between Alice's camp and the
Aerosmith camp.

795
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,800
And we'll go to venues that both
have played before.

796
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,360
And the first words out of
someone's mouth is so is, is so

797
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,920
and so on this tour.
And as soon as we say no,

798
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,200
suddenly it's like, whatever you
need, you, you want us to fly in

799
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,040
a frickin golden goose for these
guys, whatever you need.

800
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,920
And it's delightful.
Like it.

801
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,720
It's a better experience than
when we were there previous

802
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,840
because it's that animosity's in
the air.

803
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,200
They're like, oh, that guy's
coming or that girl's coming

804
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,600
and.
Yeah, you.

805
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,120
You.
Yeah.

806
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,200
And it makes your job easier.
Makes everything.

807
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,360
So a day in the life of Amber.
What would that be?

808
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Let.
Let run.

809
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,120
Run us through.
Run us through.

810
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,680
OK.
Shall we say what you think will

811
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,240
happen tomorrow?
What probably will happen

812
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:28,920
tomorrow.
And then none of it will happen

813
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:29,680
tomorrow.
And something.

814
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,080
Yeah.
Something completely different.

815
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,680
So what?
What?

816
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
What's your.
I know you're laughing.

817
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,480
I know this is the hard
question.

818
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,960
I know, but you say that I'm
like, wait, what do I actually

819
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,440
do?
No, I'm just kidding.

820
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:49,360
So so I think we have like AI
think it's a four hour drive

821
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,120
tonight and so I'll get up at
6:30.

822
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,240
My production manager and I will
walk into the venue, suss

823
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:02,680
everything out, get the dressing
rooms prepared for the band.

824
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,200
We'll make sure catering's up
for the crew and both local and

825
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,880
our own.
Then silly little logistical

826
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,960
stuff like doing bus stop or
grocery shopping lists for the

827
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,920
bus and for the dressing rooms,
things like that.

828
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:23,920
And then doing security sheets
and a lot of little office

829
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,560
stuff.
And then the band comes in, we

830
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:34,720
do Alice's VIP sound, check
doors show.

831
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,360
I breakdown production, get
Alice's wife dressed for the

832
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,480
show.
Couple songs in, get her changed

833
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,280
into another costume for another
part of the show.

834
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,080
I get killed.
I clean up the stage after the

835
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,800
end of the show and pack it all
up and get all the after show

836
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,880
food on the bus and go to bed
after a glass of wine and then I

837
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,360
go to bed.
That was a brilliant day in the

838
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,800
life and I do love the part
where I was like, I get killed.

839
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,360
I then I think, you know that
that'd be a piss bit.

840
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,240
I mean, OK guys, soon I'm going
to be killed.

841
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:11,440
So you're not going to be killed
soon.

842
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,800
I'm going to be killed.
It really confuses people.

843
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,280
I'm like, oh, yeah, I get killed
and they're like, I'm sorry,

844
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,840
what?
Like, yeah, Alice kills me every

845
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,280
year.
Alice has Jason killed me every

846
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,640
night.
And they're like, I thought

847
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,560
you're a production assistant.
I'm like, yeah, I do that too.

848
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,200
I think this is that this sounds
like the the best crew really to

849
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,400
all be so hands on.
And you know, I, I've heard of,

850
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,000
you know, the, the video guys
doing like the, the cameras and

851
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,600
all the rest of it, but not
actually being a zombie or being

852
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,000
anything like that.
That's yeah.

853
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,000
And the crew that you're
actually working with.

854
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,600
Are there a lot of ladies on the
on the tour or are you No?

855
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,680
So it's me.
We have another production

856
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,680
assistant and then Alice's wife.
This run we did have a female

857
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,880
guitar player.
She's coming back, but she's

858
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,600
doing a solo gig that conflicted
dates.

859
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,000
So normally there's two or three
and.

860
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,880
And that's and that has that
been like the whole of like the

861
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,840
10 years or have you seen
different females come in or

862
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,880
leave or?
Yeah, yeah, different females in

863
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,320
and out.
But when I started originally 10

864
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,600
years ago, it was just me or no,
actually Nita was in the band at

865
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,000
that time.
So it was me, Nita and Alice's

866
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,840
wife.
But I was by far the only black

867
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:40,320
person for quite a bit.
But but yeah, it's definitely a

868
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,800
male heavy dominant that.
Really is, yeah.

869
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,600
I mean, a lot of the tours I've
done there's, you know, they've

870
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:52,520
OK, a minority of the ladies are
part of the tour, but really,

871
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,520
you know, you, you are, you are
mom.

872
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,760
You are really, really mom to
everybody.

873
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,720
I always use that word because,
you know, being the the only

874
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:06,160
lady that's on there.
How did how do you how do you

875
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,840
feel being the only lady on the
tour, basically?

876
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,560
You know, I don't, I don't mind
it as much.

877
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,040
It's because I will say everyone
in this crew is very, very

878
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:23,760
welcoming.
We all hang out, you know, so,

879
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,600
so they don't treat me like, oh,
she's a female like that weird.

880
00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:33,640
Kind of like, oh, we got to be
like, I'm not.

881
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,920
I don't know how to say it
correctly to convey it, but it's

882
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,840
like I'm one of the guys.
Like we all hang out.

883
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:45,440
They respect me as a female, but
they don't tiptoe like I'm like,

884
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,520
I will pull Rd. cases and
they're like, would you?

885
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,560
I'm like, yeah.
And they're like, all right.

886
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,880
So they respect me as a female.
They don't make me feel any less

887
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,520
than because I'm a female.
They include me.

888
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,160
The only time it gets hard is
like, you know, we're overseas

889
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:05,840
sometimes at certain places
where you can still feel the old

890
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,560
school mentality of the industry
where it's like they won't

891
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,680
address questions to me.
They'll address it to a man

892
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,000
that's in the room.
And it's like, kind of like a

893
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,200
hey, hey, guess what?
Guess what?

894
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,560
Have you talked to me?
Yeah.

895
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:28,160
I'm here, yeah, I've seen that
being part of that.

896
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:33,640
And yes, yes, I totally
understand the old school kind

897
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,680
of mentality of things.
I do think it's changing, yeah.

898
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,560
I think it's changing a great
deal now.

899
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:47,400
And most, I would say most,
yeah, most, most men, gentlemen

900
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,040
out there, you know, if you're a
lady in this industry, we're

901
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,600
generally, I'm going to say this
nicely, we've generally got

902
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,960
balls.
You know, we, we, we, we can

903
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,760
handle ourselves.
You know, we don't need to be,

904
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,920
we don't, we don't need to be
taken care of.

905
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,480
You know, you don't have to say
the night and like, stop your

906
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,440
swearing.
You don't have to do this.

907
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,200
You know, obviously there's
certain things, you know, I

908
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,480
don't want to see them all naked
because I don't.

909
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,840
But you know, right, I'm not,
I'm not one of them.

910
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,600
The lads, lads.
But you know, when it comes to

911
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,280
it, you do know that they'll be
respectful.

912
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:31,760
And I've never had an issue on,
you know, in in any, any tour

913
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,480
that I've ever been ever worked
on.

914
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,960
Always felt welcomed,
especially, you know, by the

915
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,040
actual tour crew, you know, and
I think that that's a that's a

916
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,760
beautiful thing to be part of.
And it does take a certain type

917
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,720
of lady to be part of it.
You know, like I said, you have

918
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:54,120
to be strong and you have to be
a little bit insane as well.

919
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,840
Oh 1000% I'm nuttier than
batshit.

920
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:04,920
Like I'm like.
So there is one thing I this is

921
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,680
I'm not, you'll have to like,
fill me in in when you was in.

922
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,400
But I was reading that, you
know, you'd actually been in

923
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,000
Africa for two months now.
I'm taking it this is before,

924
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,440
like, your touring days.
But this I just wanted for you

925
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,760
to like, I don't know, tell the
listers, you know, just what a

926
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,960
kind and caring heart that
you've got, like, you know, on

927
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,200
top of everything.
So please, whereabouts in

928
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Africa?
And yeah, what was she doing

929
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,240
there?
So like I told you earlier, I

930
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:41,240
grew up in New York, in Hawaii,
but New York and I went and

931
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:46,720
volunteered with the YMCA of
Brooklyn and they had AI forget

932
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,960
the exact term, what it was, but
they have overseas projects,

933
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,440
programs where you can go and it
you literally live out of your

934
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,680
backpack as a kid.
And depending on where you go,

935
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,880
you participate in either like
helping to build schools,

936
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,560
helping to build wells, helping
generally just helping in that

937
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,680
country of need.
And so I did the program to to

938
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,920
the Gambia in Africa.
And so I went over and we did

939
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,840
their main export was peanuts.
And so we came in and helped

940
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:31,720
plant fields of peanut trees or
sorry, I'm getting tongue tied.

941
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,960
I told you I'm nervous.
So we planted peanuts for them

942
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,760
and got to live there and
through the YMCA on their end,

943
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,840
help in their schools, help with
the kids.

944
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,160
We had a couple times where we
got to go and live with a local

945
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,680
family for a couple of days and
so they would take us under the

946
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:59,320
wing and they were part of the
YMCA and it was incredible.

947
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,040
Really an experience, I mean
really that is a life experience

948
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,160
to be given in that way and
helping.

949
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:17,120
Did you feel this is going to be
a did you feel that you either

950
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,800
could have continued like to
help more or what you did

951
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,240
because it's never going to be
enough?

952
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,400
Is it the help?
No, I.

953
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:31,920
Would have loved to have stayed
and kept doing the program, but

954
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:39,240
that was I'm pretty sure that
was the year by Grant.

955
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,640
My grandmother raised us kids
and she had a heart attack.

956
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,960
And so it was right when I was
supposed to come back.

957
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,160
And so I ended up coming back
and staying.

958
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,160
She's, she's fine.
She's good, you know, but I was

959
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,840
AI was a kid and I'd never, I
knew people had heart attacks,

960
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,280
but I didn't think it would
happen.

961
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,920
So I went back, I went back to
New York.

962
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,680
And then instead of going back
to Africa through being in New

963
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,640
York and through being in
Hawaii, like I would

964
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,160
continuously find myself
volunteering for stuff and

965
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,120
trying to help out where I can
and everything because I mean,

966
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,200
we're all human.
Like we need help.

967
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,080
Like I'd like to think if knock
on wood, if something happens

968
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,840
and I'm homeless or jobless,
like someone's going to go, hey,

969
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,520
what can I do?
Like can I even just to be an

970
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:38,440
ear to talk to, you know, so.
Really, this is the, I would say

971
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,640
helping and being like you said,
the ear.

972
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,880
So many people need help out
there.

973
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:51,440
I mean, so many people.
I mean, I, I am lucky where I

974
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,880
live there, there aren't that
many.

975
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,560
There are, there aren't that
many homeless people here.

976
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,560
And in fact, there there isn't
any.

977
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,920
No, I'm not going to say there's
not any.

978
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,280
That's, that's a silly thing to
say because there, there are a

979
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,400
few, but literally like a
handful of people we actually

980
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,760
had, there was, this was last
year.

981
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,640
There was, there was a man
sleeping in a, in a doorway.

982
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,600
Well, the whole community of
like where I live, like they all

983
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,240
got together and took him to a
monastery and like everyone was

984
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,640
like, have we seen this man?
He's on the streets and he's old

985
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,360
and he's this like, nobody will
see you on the street.

986
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,240
And I think that's really nice.
But there's, there's the

987
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,400
population's so big.
I mean, when I went back to

988
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,400
England, I was shocked again.
I was like, Oh my goodness, so

989
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,240
many.
People on this?

990
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:46,240
You know, and you know, going,
there's a charity here actually,

991
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:49,960
and they go out over to Africa
as well and they help build the

992
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,720
huts and the schools.
And I was talking to them and

993
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,840
they were like, we need more
people.

994
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,480
We need more this, we need more
that you know, that you, you've

995
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,320
constantly, you know, need a,
you're inundated with people

996
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,520
that we need volunteers to help
and to everything.

997
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,600
So whilst I love it and yeah,
for you to experience that, it

998
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,960
then it like makes me sad at the
same time, you know, it's

999
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600
because it's like, you know, all
those things.

1000
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,400
But the the another charity that
you've been supporting is the

1001
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,360
Maui Food Bank.
Yes, yes, the because we have a

1002
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:31,840
lot of hungry people, a lot of
food insecurity in Maui.

1003
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,440
We have it everywhere, but we
have it a lot in Maui.

1004
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,960
And so my grandfather, he
donates them, does charity

1005
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,880
benefits for them and he'll fly
musicians out that he's worked

1006
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,080
with or knows or friends with
and they'll put on a whole

1007
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,720
benefit and donate the money to
the food bank.

1008
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:54,200
And so watching him do that and
I started learning about what

1009
01:00:54,200 --> 01:01:01,240
was going on in the community.
I donate to it and and we just

1010
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,600
had the fires a year change ago
in Lahaina.

1011
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,920
And so the need is even greater
now.

1012
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,400
And so anyway I can contribute
or do something?

1013
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,520
I have they got a web.
I didn't actually look at their.

1014
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,640
They've got a website as well
where you can donate.

1015
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,280
They do OK, Well, I'm going to
add that to the like to the

1016
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,600
posts and things because I'm,
you know, I'm a really big

1017
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,760
believer in giving back.
And whenever anybody comes on,

1018
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,560
the first thing I ask is, you
know, like, do you have a

1019
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,520
charity?
And I'll always try and do posts

1020
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,320
just to like, I wasn't aware of,
you know, that charity.

1021
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:43,400
So, you know, just to spread the
word, if someone's got some

1022
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,040
spare change that they can help,
then you know that that's that's

1023
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,040
just amazing in my eyes anyway,
Yeah.

1024
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,720
Thank you.
I appreciate that like that.

1025
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,440
'D be awesome, like as I said,
every little helps you know, and

1026
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,160
if one person can tell somebody
else who can tell somebody else

1027
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,920
and you know nowadays it's you
know, everyone's on social media

1028
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,520
anyway, aren't they, you know
and like flicking through

1029
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,160
things.
So I think the more people are

1030
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,960
aware of, you know, different
organisations that are out

1031
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,640
there, then that's that's that's
a really good thing.

1032
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,120
Now I know you've not got long.
We've been actually, we've been

1033
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,240
a lovely chat.
I can't thank you enough.

1034
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:27,080
Nothing really for coming up,
but I'd like to ask you one

1035
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:33,280
thing for let's say for any of
the young ladies coming into the

1036
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,840
industry, what advice would you
give them?

1037
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:51,240
That's a good question.
I would, I really have to think

1038
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,960
about that for a second.
I think I would tell anyone

1039
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,920
getting into this industry
that's a lady to not give up

1040
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:05,520
that sometimes, especially with
it being such a male dominated

1041
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,120
industry, I know a lot of like
more so in the production side,

1042
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,160
they feel like giving up like
that.

1043
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,320
They can't do it.
You're just as good and just as

1044
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,480
capable as any of these people.
But you got to have the faith in

1045
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,080
yourself and you got to keep
trying.

1046
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,120
There's no perfect way to do
this job.

1047
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,920
There's no perfect way in this
industry, so don't beat yourself

1048
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,360
up or feel like you let yourself
down.

1049
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Just keep going.
Just try.

1050
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,840
Just keep going and and kindness
always be kind.

1051
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,600
Yes, all right, seriously,
that's and that's great advice

1052
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,120
and I think for any of the
ladies that are listening out

1053
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,320
there that are coming into the
industry Yep keep strong, keep

1054
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:50,400
believing in yourself and take
the opportunities that come

1055
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,080
about.
You know, if, if, who, if

1056
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,840
whoever, whatever artist you're
working for, whatever band and

1057
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:02,200
they say jump on that stage, you
do it, you do it.

1058
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:07,360
And I, I've, I've for myself
always enjoy everything you're

1059
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,800
doing, you know, enjoy
everything.

1060
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,040
Do things with passion.
And if there's a moment where

1061
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,200
you don't like it, I'm not
saying just quit because you

1062
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,640
never do that.
But you, you stop.

1063
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,040
Life's too short.
Life's too short to do something

1064
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,400
you don't like.
As you found out with your

1065
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,000
criminal justice, that wasn't
for you.

1066
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,400
You stopped it.
You moved on.

1067
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,400
Same as this.
I'm 100% sure that if you woke

1068
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,560
up tomorrow morning and you're
like, actually, no, this isn't

1069
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,560
for me anymore.
You'd stop it.

1070
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,240
You know, you'd stop it.
And you would, you wouldn't just

1071
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:46,000
walk out straight away, but you
would go on to something else.

1072
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,960
Learning from people, you know,
learning from.

1073
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,400
Yeah, let's say the I don't know
if this is right.

1074
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,600
I don't know if I'm allowed to
say this like our old, our

1075
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,800
elders, like the older people in
now in our industry.

1076
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,440
But yeah, for the people that
have been in.

1077
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Because some, you know, I've
some of the best, like David

1078
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,840
Davidian, like some of the best
mentors you can have.

1079
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,920
And don't be afraid to ask
questions because a lot of times

1080
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,720
they are open and want to help
you succeed.

1081
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,840
And, you know, I've gone to
David and talked to him and

1082
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,200
like, what was it like then?
And like, how would you do this?

1083
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,720
How would you navigate that?
And that's some of the best

1084
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,560
education that like, not trying
to knock Full sail, but like,

1085
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,360
yeah, you get technical.
Know how at Full sail, but

1086
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,320
people know how and how to move.
Know how you get it from each

1087
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,120
other, or our elders or the
people who's been doing this for

1088
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,600
years.
Yeah, exactly.

1089
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,200
Don't look at people as though
off, you know, you're too old

1090
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,960
now or whatever because that
that's who you need to be.

1091
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,640
Asking these questions and
making mistakes is also OK to

1092
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:58,160
make a mistake.
But my advice to younger people

1093
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,280
out there coming in is put your
hand up when it's been noticed,

1094
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,240
you've done it, done a mistake,
or if it hasn't been noticed and

1095
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,400
you know you've done the
mistake, just own up to it.

1096
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:15,040
It takes us. 1000% like I would
have, I don't care if someone

1097
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,840
came in and crashed the tour
bus, if they took their licking.

1098
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,320
So it's like I fucked up, it's
my bad.

1099
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,200
I would be like don't worry
about it either fine.

1100
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,280
But it's the person that's like,
well, if that person didn't do

1101
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,760
this and then this didn't happen
and this didn't happen just to

1102
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,480
say you hadn't, it was an
accident, like just.

1103
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,320
Own it and then move on.
Exactly.

1104
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,440
Own it, move on.
I mean, I've had to put my head

1105
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,720
down in so many different
places, you know, and go oh

1106
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,640
wait, yes, it was me.
I mean one time I was I was

1107
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,240
driving the minibus and I was so
happy because we cut it.

1108
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,920
We'd finished early and I was so
happy and I was like had the

1109
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,200
music on and like I was like and
I put it into reverse.

1110
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,920
Now I didn't.
I had obviously had looked

1111
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,880
behind, but I hadn't seen two
massive forks, which was the

1112
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:10,040
forklifts fault was up.
OK, so it wasn't it was it was a

1113
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,680
mixture because the forklift
shouldn't have been parked with

1114
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,880
the forks up.
That's the first thing.

1115
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,400
It was me that reversed into it.
So I hands up and I went.

1116
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:27,880
It was me four hours later as
we're waiting for the windscreen

1117
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,960
people and all the rest of it
and my team were like we'd

1118
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,640
finished early.
So I kind of I just got over

1119
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:40,680
excited.
That's like my biggest fear,

1120
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,120
Like I will never drive a
sprinter van.

1121
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,320
I will never drive a runner's
car.

1122
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,760
I'm like, Nope, because I would
probably be that person who

1123
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,680
would like accidentally jump a
curb or something.

1124
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,120
I'm a good driver, but like you
being so excited to just all

1125
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,680
right, I'm going to do this and
be like.

1126
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,800
Here's a me too, you know, I
think I'm a very guy.

1127
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:05,040
I'm a good driver and didn't you
know this whole happened and you

1128
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,400
know we're we're in like the the
the compound and it happened in

1129
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:13,480
the compound as I'm just
literally we're finishing hands

1130
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:14,920
up.
Yep, it's me.

1131
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,479
Well, I really wish you a
fabulous, fabulous tour.

1132
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:29,479
Give a big hug, David, for me
and say thank you for connecting

1133
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,640
us both because, yeah, it's
really been wonderful.

1134
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,279
And if I do end up in Athens,
I'm going to call you for sure

1135
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,960
because no, no, I just.
I'd love to just meet you in

1136
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,520
person.
We can.

1137
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,920
Sit.
In Athens and we'll, we'll drink

1138
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,720
Iraqi then, then speciality
drink.

1139
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,920
Sign me up.
You twisted my arm.

1140
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,359
I'm down.
I think we're.

1141
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:52,840
Going to be there for a couple.
Days.

1142
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,200
Are you, are you are going to be
there for a couple of days.

1143
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,720
OK.
Well, you never know.

1144
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,000
I think it was it was about
July.

1145
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,399
I think it's about July time
you're there.

1146
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,479
So we've got plenty of time
until then.

1147
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,840
And always know that I know
we've just met.

1148
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:10,080
But if you had more time, you
can always come to Crete.

1149
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,800
You're always welcome on this
side as well.

1150
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,359
Thank you.
Thank you.

1151
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:18,560
Thank you very, very, very much.
Amber, you are a superstar.

1152
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,760
Thank you Sarah, this has been
so much fun.

1153
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,200
Glad you enjoyed it.
Bye bye.

1154
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,479
La La La La ladies.
The ladies.

1155
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:46,040
Now here's the leading ladies by
Geezers of gear on tour.

1156
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,920
Maybe she got some stories to
share.

1157
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:57,120
Now here's the leading ladies by
the geezers of gear, Rockstar

1158
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,200
ladies with some stories to
share.

1159
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:14,880
Because La La, la, la, la, la,
la, La La.

1160
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:26,040
Yeah, she's a high.
Now here's the leading ladies by

1161
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:33,080
Kizers of Gear Rock Star Ladies
for some stories to share.

1162
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,960
Now here's the.
Leading.

1163
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:42,600
Ladies by the Kizers of Gear on
Tour Ladies, She's got some

1164
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,600
stories to share.