#192 - Brad, Marcel and Rane Renshaw go FULL GEARHEAD and discuss the Moving Light March Madness too!

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Thank you for joining us for
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Hi everybody.
Nobody yet but hopefully

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everybody in just a minute for
joining.

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Oh last time we talked about
waiting to hold on the do the

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intro until we know.
Yeah.

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Right.
Yeah.

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Well you forgot shame on you.
Shame on me.

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Well for those of you watching
now, you miss the intro so you

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can re-watch your from the
beginning and see our cool

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little jingle if you care,
probably don't.

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But if you do, we have a guest
coming on the show today, he's

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not here yet, but we're excited.
About that.

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And we've definitely got some
other things that we can see

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what's going on in your world
Marcel has wouldn't how it

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wouldn't be a live stream if
you're?

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It wouldn't be a livestream of
here.

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Internet wasn't cutting in and
out.

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Yeah, yeah.
Try again.

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Go ahead.
So, how is how you doing?

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Cases of grind?
Yeah, it's going.

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Well, I mean, it's keeping me
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I actually have to get a sales
update from these guys, I

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haven't gotten one recently, but
when I checked like a week ago,

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10 days ago, it was doing really
well, it was like, one of their

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top sellers, so just so everyone
knows.

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Yes, geezers of gear, created
our own blend of coffee, which

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is basically A, a mix of a
product that the company calls,

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Road Dogg, and their medium
beings.

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And so they literally just mix
the beans together, Road Dogg is

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their strongest being medium.
Is it kind of takes the edge off

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a little bit because Road Dogg,
definitely makes you feel like a

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Road Dogg, and just a really
great blend of coffee.

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But anyways, long story short,
so this company called coffee

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cult, all Kay's coffee.
Cult.com with a K coffee cake,

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alt has this thing, you go there
and you just search for geezers

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grind and all of the proceeds,
go to row be backstage, which

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benefits people in our industry
who need help.

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And the most recent that we were
aware of was, Michael Krieger

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from upstaging, who is being
supported somewhat by robe a

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backstage and Roby backstage.
Is getting a little bit of

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funding from coffee cult via
this geezers grind.

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So, please order it order to.
Then the shipping is free,

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anything over $50 is free
shipping and it's not just for

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charity, it's actually a great
product, so please do good.

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That's good.
Can you hear me now?

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Sorry, I don't know what
happened with my internet,

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decided about this out for me.
You don't know what happened

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with your internet Brad.
This is like a weekly occurrence

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for us right now.
Daily for me, but weekly for

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those of us who are on this
podcast, but Brad has a big

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announcement to make well, do I
ordered starlink from Elon Musk?

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And I've been waiting for almost
a year now, for it to be

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approved and I finally got the
email yesterday that I am now

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eligible.
So, in some time in two to four

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weeks, my heart will Hardware
will show up and then we will

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hopefully have everything ready
to go.

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So you'll May finally have
You'll finally have better than

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dial-up still internet service.
Will's amazing.

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We'll see ya 2023.
Brad.

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Come on now.
Come on.

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No.
Well in the red leaves in the

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stick cousin, can.
Yes, exactly.

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Exactly.
You know, I actually remember,

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like, I remember when I used to
have to travel to Italy all the

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time to go to the comb our
Factory and I remember actually

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connecting, you know, to the
telephone wire with my computer

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and it All that noise and
connecting to the modem.

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You know, dial-up internet.
When you say dial-up internet to

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Guys Like Our Guest today,
they're like what, you know,

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it's it's a little bit
predating, some of these people

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and he's laughing at us right
now.

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We can see him in the green
room.

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So so yeah.
I mean, we actually did have to

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use phone lines to connect to
the internet and you had to sort

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of unplug the phone in the hotel
room and plug it into your

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computer with a big fat adapted.
After.

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And and then you had to go find
the phone number from my

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EarthLink thing that they gave
me all the phone numbers to dial

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into.
And I mean, it was pretty

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unbelievable.
There is this thing floating

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around the, the internet.
Right now, that's mostly geared

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towards people my age.
So in there, like mid-30s that

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American Girl dolls, you know,
the like dolls that you get,

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when you're a kid and all the
girls love and things were boys,

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whoever, whatever, but the doll
company based on a historical.

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Rick figure line that is 90s
dolls, so they've got like

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outfits and stuff.
And there's a, you know, an old

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CRT monitor computer and dial-up
internet like the, you know, an

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old layers.
And and everybody's raving of

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course that, you know, they go
find the skirt from their closet

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that they still own, and that's
hilarious.

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Yeah.
You know, I love that Nostalgia

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stuff and it's getting hot right
now.

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Like I mean, people are spending
real money on it on like 70s and

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80s and 90s stuff.
So, One of my neighbors here is

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rebuilding a the same car that
was my first car which was a

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1971 Datsun B210 station wagon
and you're going to have to

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Google it.
And it was in it was in baby

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blue.
It's probably the ugliest car

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you've ever seen and one of my
neighbors has one in his

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driveway that he's completely
redoing and it's got like 400

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and something horsepower in it.
You know, he's making it a crazy

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car.
But but yeah, it's just funny.

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How people are really getting
into that old nostalgic stuff.

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Loads of turntables, I have lots
of friends who have turned

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tables and record collections
again and stuff.

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Not like DJ spinning,
turntables, but just listening

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to like, Led Zeppelin on a on a
turntable instead of a MP3 or CD

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or whatever.
Uh-huh.

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So so anyways, we have our
guests waiting.

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We should probably go ahead and
allow view into this one.

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Yeah.
So we have a really exciting

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guests for those of you that
don't know him, this guy runs a

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really cool Channel and does a
really cool thing during the

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month of March, in particular,
that we're going to talk about

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today.
So with that, we will bring on

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rain Renshaw from Limelight
wired, so 8 rain, thanks for

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joining us, the man, the myth,
right?

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That's right, that's right,
yeah, maybe I'm a, I'm a big,

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big follower of the podcast, so
fun, thank big follower, we have

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like 12 followers.
You have 12,000.

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So come on, we know.
Big molding is your big where

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the follower and your think
you're a quality over quantity

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situation, you know, that's
right.

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Yeah.
So your green background and

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purple glasses are kind of
freaking me out a little bit.

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I know they're fogging up out
here.

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Oh, is it?
Yeah, you're in Miami to, right?

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I'm in Palm Beach, but here in
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Yeah, I'm down here Miami and
South Beach.

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It's crazy right now.
Real busy.

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Yeah.
Oh right it's it's Ultra week.

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It is my musically Ultras going
on the whole anything that could

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be going on is so it's fun.
It's fun.

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But chaotic.
Yeah, I don't have you slept

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have you slept in the past
couple days?

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Yesterday was my first day to
sleep in a while?

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But, you know, we're gearing up
burning long but you know, you

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guys know, like the worst is
always the best, you know.

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Yeah.
Course.

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Well, I'm you don't complain you
know and when we know the other

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side of all this so well.
Sorry, I interrupted you

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someday.
I'll fix this for the benefit of

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those listening, then, don't
know who you are.

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Can you talk about your company
and what you guys do a little

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bit?
Yeah, absolutely.

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And you know just interrupt me
if I chop up to and we can get

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it all reset but you're on fine.
Limelight wired is just you

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know, I have a hard time putting
a name or a label on it because

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essentially what it is just kind
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I'd like it to grow into a brand
that people programmers

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designers technicians in the
field can kind of relate to

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Across the different markets of
our industry, whether that be

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architectural, or concert or
theatrical, or educational, or

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even, you know, Experimental.
You know, we you know a lot of

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times we get pigeonholed into
little sectors of our craft and

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we don't realize how much we
have in common with, you know,

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the other sectors.
And so essentially what I'm

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trying to build here is a
community where we can all

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cross-pollinate ideas and
knowledge and story.

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That's accept fantastic idea.
I mean, some of my favorite

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designers are people who have
sort of crossover, you know,

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they've been architectural,
lighting designers, Other rock

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and roll lighting designers, or
their rock-and-roll designers,

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who now do architectural work,
and just sort of that blend of

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experiences and knowledge and
stuff.

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Just makes for a really cool
design.

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Yeah.
Well, it's very cool and your

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content is good.
For any of you who haven't seen

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rain is on, well, I should say
Limelight wired, although that

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is rain, it is more than just
rain, right?

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But that is on Instagram.
It's on Facebook, it's on.

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All the major social channels,
but I think Instagram is your

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most prominent.
Is that correct?

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Yeah.
Yeah, that's where a large

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spaces and we've grown.
We've grown to our own app to

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that is married to our website.
But, you know, any, you can

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download our app, you can find
us on all the major socials, you

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can find us on YouTube and, you
know, just creating content that

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works for that particular
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You know, it's all experimental
is all changing, you know.

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Next year, Instagram will be
different than it was this year

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so you know there's you know,
there's no rules.

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It's just we're trying.
That we're trying to be a place

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that's putting out content.
That lighting designers and

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programmers are thirsty for.
Yeah, no, absolutely.

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Hey, Corey thanks for joining us
and everybody else watching, I

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appreciate you guys taking the
time.

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So we're talking with rain, rain
shot them at Limelight.

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Wired, tell us why rain people
should care about your content,

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right?
Like, you're a lighting guy

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right in a designer.
What do you do when you're not

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just making content?
Well, I think it's easy to, you

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know, at least a little bit of
my full-time background aside

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from this is Club lighting and I
can get personally really

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tunnel-visioned into the same
gear in the same console in the

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same, you know, kind of
programming style that I do and

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that works for me and that
sometimes the need to go out and

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look for what's new on the
market.

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Or, you know, what's trendy or,
you know, new ways that people

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are using technology is not
Always there, right at.

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So having an outlet that's kind
of putting that content in front

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of me, was something that I was
searching for myself and just

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started kind of creating the
content.

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You know, that I that I was, you
know, that I was personally

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searching for because I was
interested in, you know,

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continuing the grow, my
knowledge of the equipment that

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was out there.
Yeah, I mean, to me, there's a

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small stuff and lots of things.
Go ahead.

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There's there's a definite
Definite comparison between you

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and like Christian Jackson of
course because he's another

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social media Phenom.
You know our industry has never

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been super big on social media
except to bitch about politics

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or, you know, to complain about
a lighting vendor or whatever it

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is.
But Christian probably started

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just a little before you maybe
and and builds a pretty big

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following much more.
I would say Christians a little

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more serious and a little more.
Or on the educational front.

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Like he's really getting into
how to stuff on consoles and

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stuff whereas yours is more
about, let's have some fun and

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you know do some cool shit.
So not that he doesn't do cool

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shit.
He's done some really cool stuff

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like you know, I love his
lighting shootout thing where

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where you know they lined up old
lighting fixtures on the other

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side of the lake and actually
got big guns and shot at them.

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Yeah, Cookie Monster.
You know, when you listen to

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him, talk about his processes
and doing what he does, he he

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was really, you know, a Pioneer
in the way of like I'm going to

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put out my knowledge out here
and I'm not putting it out for a

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way for you to copy.
I'm opening up a dialogue and I

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want people to say, oh, that's a
cool way that I could apply.

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And I'm doing, and you could
incorporate it into a workflow.

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He kind of was the first person
to put out software-based

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videos, tutorial videos that
were more conversational than

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the Right.
You know, I mean from the

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manufacturer telling you what
the syntax should be, you know,

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it was kind of exciting for me
and definitely you know

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inspirational because people
weren't really doing that before

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him.
I mean they you know yeah but

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first person that was like very
loudly saying like look throw

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your work out there, you know if
you know if you're if you're

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good we're all going to make
each other better fun and you

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know not to make this the Chris
Jackson Christian Jackson show.

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But the funny thing is he's so
shy.

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Why, you know, like, he's so out
there and he's got, you know,

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60,000 followers or whatever.
He's up to now, but he's so shy.

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And so it's so weird because
he's such an introvert.

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But he's so, you know, out there
in space and stuff.

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And I got a crack up when you
call somebody a Pioneer and

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they're like in their 20s or
whatever.

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Right.
So, you know, maybe me being the

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old guy on The call here.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
So yeah.

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We'll explain.
We'll catch up.

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Yeah, it's all good.
It's all good and I think I

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could figure it out.
So, You know, I don't I don't

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know where Brad is going with
his topics here or anything, but

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I definitely want to jump into
this moving like Madness thing

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that you're knee deep into right
now and you know, I love it it's

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probably one of the first things
where I really took notice of

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you and I don't know if it was
just last year or maybe it was

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the year before but you know I
was like what is this?

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And I'm not a basketball guy but
obviously I get it and And just

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love what you did there.
You know I just I think it's a

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fantastic tie into something
that everybody's paying so much

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attention to right now and just
kind of grabbing on the

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coattails of the, you know, the
whole March Madness.

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Final four thing.
So how's that going for you?

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It's been fun man.
You know when in the early years

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I was just searching for a way
to kind of like get people to

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notice me and thought I thought
one day, well what if I just,

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you know, Put it up to the
people to decide what the best

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moving light on the market was,
you know, because there's a lot

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of awards out there and I'm not
diminishing, any of them, but we

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all know that getting an award
comes with asterisks in some

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places.
You know what I mean?

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And I was like, I've had many of
those asterisks.

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We spent more money on a boot
than you did.

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We get it?
All I'm saying is that when it

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comes to putting these pictures
up against each other and people

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are literally voting and that's
how its decided you know it's

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engaging.
I mean it's fun like you

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mentioned earlier, it's not
completely serious, there's

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retro lights in there.
There's fan favorites, the Viper

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still in there and relevant and
it's still hanging in there.

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You know, we it's down to the
final eight fixtures in the

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Viper.
Still got a following that will

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push it past four rounds so, you
know, it's a it but what I

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think, what are What are they?
We have the mega point, the

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original Sharpie, The Spider,
and the Mac, or a pixel the jdc,

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one color strike and the Mac
Ultra performance and the Viper.

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Did I say the Viper twice?
No idea.

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Yeah, but it's posted on my
Instagram.

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You can check it out at lime.
I wired the park him with the

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loose bolt is gone.
Tell me God bless the first

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round heartbroken.
It's not so, but it's fun, you

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know, that emulates as you know,
March Madness as much as I can,

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there's four brackets.
I break them up into fixture,

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type to make it fun and you
know, at least at the beginning,

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you have some Sort of like Merit
to vote on a light against each

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other, right?
And and you know at the end of

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the at the end of the month, we
get to Crown a winner which has

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never been anything other than
the Robie Mega point so far, so

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maybe if it wins Higher, how do
people vote?

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People vote by going to my
Instagram story and every day

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matchups.
Cool man that I gotta vote.

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But I got to vote between you
and Brad.

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Who's got the worst internet,
you guys are both in and out.

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Maybe you're sharing a phone
line.

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That's right, baby.
So it's not sponsored by

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manufacturers at all.
All right, so they're not paying

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for like they're in trees or
anything like that.

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No, no manufacturers.
That I have a great relationship

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with.
We kind of talked about if

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there's something that they
would like me to include this

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year, but I, that doesn't
necessarily mean that it is

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included.
There's lots of times that

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there's products that don't
necessarily fit or, you know,

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you know that I post on my story
and people submit their

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favorites.
You know, I try to include

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champions from last year,
they're automatically seated

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much like a tournament would be
a note there.

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Automatic placement and no
guarantees other than winning.

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Yeah, and just winning is
winning, do anything, like are

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these.
They're not seeing bumps in

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sales or popularity or anything.
I don't think.

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So, the most fun is is the first
couple rounds when you just get

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to kind of see fixtures, you
didn't even know existed and

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you're like, oh I don't know.
So-and-so had a moving baton.

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That was IP rated.
Yeah, yeah.

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Now it's a cool concept.
It's a lot of fun and a good

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thing to participate in.
So you said you vote on

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Instagram, which is great and it
runs the whole month of March.

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This is the third year that
you've done it, is that right

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fourth, fourth year, fourth
year.

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So as you said, the mega points,
one every year or only the last

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couple ever here.
Wow.

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Yeah.
You might have to kick out kick

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that one out.
Yeah.

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It is, it is a really popular
fixture.

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I will give it that if anybody
has any just fell.

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We're looking for some right
now.

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So Shameless pun intended.
Yeah.

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I like the so when it ends it
ends in a couple of weeks,

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right?
Yeah.

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So the elite eight is a in
Thursday.

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There's voting today tomorrow
and Thursday, and then next week

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will be the final four which
will take place over two days.

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So, because I'm completely
oblivious and The one person in

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America, who doesn't pay
attention to college basketball

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at this time of year, because
I'm Canadian, and I'm watching,

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hockey seeing who makes the
playoffs and stuff.

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But are you following exactly to
the days and stuff?

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That the basketball tournament
is going to?

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No, I'm not.
I what I did.

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Just one year and it was fun,
but yeah, I kept just kept in,

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March this year because it's
really late this year.

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The tournament is a lot more
than normal.

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Yeah.
Yeah, no, I love it.

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It's interesting.
So, you know, I mean, anything

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else, you're planning to do
around this or like, you know, I

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don't know how up on audio.
You are, but it'd be cool to

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slip in some audio stuff.
Some video stuff, like, have

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different, you know, brackets or
whatever you want to call it.

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It's not brackets, but different
tournaments or whatever, I don't

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know.
But oh, no, it's such a fun

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concept.
It just feels like it needs to

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be expanded upon, but that's
just me.

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I wreck Little Things by trying
to turn them into big things.

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It's my forte.
No, no, no plug intended.

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That's right.
Yeah.

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It's my I Forte.
So the other thing I went poking

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around your Instagram right
before we jumped on, and I saw

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that you did like a little
review thing on the D9 console.

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You've had hands on that thing.
I have thoughts.

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I love it personally.
I think a bolides Titan software

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is really intuitive.
If you're a creatively oriented

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designer, you know, the metaphor
that I kind of use is that I can

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I call Em a kind of the AutoCAD
and Abel lights.

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More of the vectorworks just in
the way that that's like how

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your brain works with one
software better than the other

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than maybe that's the avenue to
go.

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Yeah but I think it's very
powerful, I think it's very very

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like the buttons on.
It are very robust and as a you

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know I have a lot of Since in
the nightclub happened, faders

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and hitting buttons.
And some damage the consoles and

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it's very Exciting.
Yeah, grab some particular

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that's the reason or just
happenstance but certainly, the

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I think lately, it's easier to
break into that than it is to

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the rock and roll world.
Where, you know, it's just so

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button down by an a right now,
you know, to get into it.

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You got to be really strong and
And you know I think one of the

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problems a bow has had is that
wild the world needs more

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consoles, Ava isn't able to ship
them and I think if they could

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ship D nines all day long, they
be biting a piece off the m&a

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market but Ma struggling to ship
enough consoles and avo

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struggling.
I don't know rain if you know

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this, but we we've been going
through it every day.

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I mean, in the last 24 hours,
we've sold for ma2.

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At almost 30 thousand dollars
each.

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I mean the used price on em, a
two lights.

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Well, I saw 144 God Rest his
soul.

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Tim Brennan during covid.
It was either late 2020 or early

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21 and it sold for like twelve
thousand dollars and it was

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almost brand-new in a case.
It was in really good condition

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and stuff this 12 Grand.
I mean that thing now would be

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32 33 thousand bucks you know?
It's the money on used em.

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A2s is insane?
The money on m83's is insane?

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Because you just can't get it.
I can't get the stuff.

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So, how much is a?
Does anyone know how much a D9

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is?
Is there C'Mon price?

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Yeah.
Is it similar impressed to ma3

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want to say?
So you're wrong because this is

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on the record, right?
I feel like list on it is

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floating around that 100,000
Mark.

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I think it's pretty in line with
them a three but I don't nobody

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say 80 to 100, so I'm not sure.
Yeah.

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So it's probably pretty close
like within 10% or something.

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Well, the cup of coffee, I
think, if you, if you familiar

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with creative integration
Studio, they have it That

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online.
How do they?

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Yeah, it's okay.
No, I'm just curious more than

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anything else.
Is it less or more or about the

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same?
And I would guess it's about the

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same which is obviously what you
can wear.

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It has become less expensive, is
its power from a media server

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standpoint that, you know, you
don't write any extreme Hardware

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to be able to do all the videos
stuff.

449
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:03,400
So, and while ma3 claims to be
able to do that, their ability

450
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,400
in reality, I have yet to hear
anybody Rave about, doesn't mean

451
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,300
it can't, but I've just never
heard anybody.

452
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:12,400
We like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you know I think I think it's

453
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,500
funny there but it's pretty
competitive price wise

454
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:16,900
otherwise.
Yeah.

455
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,500
I think I do think that, that's
how the able likes console.

456
00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:25,400
Really, you know, get can slide
into some more potential

457
00:27:25,900 --> 00:27:28,300
large-scale Productions, like
that is because of their

458
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:31,100
integration of videos.
So slick, you know.

459
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,100
Yeah, even if especially if you
have an AI server, you know your

460
00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:38,600
you can take the video content
and you know, essentially just

461
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000
Instantly pixel, map it, across
your pictures as a.

462
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,300
Yeah, it's powerful.
It's cool.

463
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:49,000
Again in this country the
challenge is always going to be

464
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,200
availability, you know?
Like it if like it's always sort

465
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,700
of a chicken and egg scenario,
like if the designer is asking

466
00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,800
for it, the lighting house has
it, the production house has it?

467
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,300
If the if the designer or
production isn't asking for it

468
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,100
generally it's not going to be
shoved down your throat by the

469
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,800
production.
Company and that even goes to

470
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,100
fixtures these days.
Like it used to be, where you

471
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,000
buy, whatever fixture you want
and then you go out and convince

472
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,100
the designers to do it and
that's completely flipped to the

473
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,900
point where the designers pretty
much have most of the power.

474
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:25,400
Now, although most of them that
I talked to anyways, we'll work

475
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,800
with the production company and
say, hey, what do you got in

476
00:28:27,808 --> 00:28:29,800
stock?
You know, once it's your gig

477
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:33,300
they'll say, Hey, you know, if I
can get an extra dozen fixtures

478
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,200
but I use this one instead of
this one.

479
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,400
Sure, no problem.
Let's, let's start swapping.

480
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,600
So, Filming.
He said, Deftones is a perfect

481
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
example.
I'm assuming that's in reference

482
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,500
to, you know, a big video and
lighting installation that's

483
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:49,200
running off of a bow.
I don't know, off the top of my

484
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,200
head, but I day.
Thanks for watching an

485
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,600
installation of the band.
Deftones is a band.

486
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:56,700
Brad.
Yes.

487
00:28:56,700 --> 00:29:00,800
Now, you're the old guy.
Yeah.

488
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,900
That was John Eddie's to work
it, took it out and it was it

489
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:07,600
was a bad, a big array of its
tylose and they were running you

490
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,200
know Vince video content over
the over the silas's.

491
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,000
Cool.
Not really.

492
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:22,700
That's an interesting picture.
Have you played with but, you

493
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:29,200
know, the biggest challenge is
Yeah, my

494
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:42,600
than it is with light fixtures,
like I've heard some shortages

495
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,700
on light fixtures, certainly
Roby has had their problem and I

496
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,700
think that might be because
there are European manufacturer.

497
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,400
And you know, maybe the Chinese
are taking care of their own,

498
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,900
God forbid, you know, and parts
are going to the large Chinese

499
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:58,100
manufacturers before they go to
the European, man.

500
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:02,700
Doctor or whatever.
But but, yeah, you know, fixture

501
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,400
seem to be easy to get.
If I had the money to go out and

502
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,400
buy a hundred fixtures today, I
think I'd have my choice but I

503
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800
couldn't get a console for, you
know, well I could but a lot of

504
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,600
people can't get consoles,
right?

505
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:21,400
You know, double the cost so we
Yeah, so, rain sensor since

506
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,400
you're a gear guy, I know that
you don't have skin in the game

507
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,700
in them, smart Madness thing.
But if you were to pick out of

508
00:30:27,708 --> 00:30:30,400
your bracket, a winner of not
who you think would win.

509
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,600
But who would you want to win?
Who would it be out of your

510
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,800
original?
64, it would be the part, can

511
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:37,800
with the loose ball, you know.
We've all right.

512
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:42,100
I'm with you, man.
You didn't mean, I mean if you,

513
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,900
if you can't light a show with
Park Hands, then you don't

514
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:46,900
deserve any of the other ones,
you know what I mean?

515
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:52,700
Yeah, we're gonna have to bring
them back.

516
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:55,200
We got to go find them.
We got to go find a boatload of

517
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,500
Park hands with loose bolts.
Although you're in Miami Beach.

518
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,300
There's got to be some laying
around somewhere.

519
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:11,600
My little one of the sketchiest
Yeah, it's funny.

520
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,200
I saw a post on Facebook even if
somebody was putting up a 60/40

521
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,300
par 64 rig for a show and it was
it was like a legit one off,

522
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,200
something festival or One Stop
on a tour or something.

523
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:25,600
They had a couple movers in the
background but most it was part

524
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,200
cancels like yes.
So rain how many votes are you

525
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,800
getting like perfect?
Juror or whatever like a hand,

526
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,000
or is it a thousand or so right
now, about 25 to 27 hundred

527
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,700
people are tuning in in 15. 1700
people are voting every day.

528
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,500
Wow.
Wow.

529
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,200
So it's real numbers, real
numbers.

530
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Yeah, so we should we should
put.

531
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,900
We should put a little bit of
money on who's going to win

532
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:51,300
then.
So, what are the final?

533
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,300
Eight again.
Okay, let's or whatever the

534
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:55,900
final later called.
What's it called?

535
00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:59,600
The Glorious?
Cause another vote for there,

536
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:07,500
you go.
See the bracket has the point in

537
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:12,800
the Sharpie left the spot.
Profile Mega point and okay.

538
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,000
Hang on, we're trying to put
together what you're saying in

539
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,100
between dropouts of internet
here.

540
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,800
So make a point and Sharpie let
me know when I'm back yet,

541
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,800
you're here.
Okay, that's the beam.

542
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,800
So we have the mega Point,
Sharpie performance, the Viper

543
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,400
profile The washes of The Spider
and the or a pixel.

544
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,300
And from the bar, and strobe
bracket is the jdc, one in the

545
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:47,900
color strike, And the pixel.
Okay, wait, what was under the

546
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:50,300
aura Aura and what else?
Spider.

547
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:53,600
It is.
So it was a spider in the Hora,

548
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,900
pixel in the watch bracket yet
or right.

549
00:32:55,900 --> 00:33:00,200
And then in the bar in strobe
bracket is the jdc one in the

550
00:33:00,208 --> 00:33:11,200
color strike E1 and the the
other day to see 180 C JB C,

551
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:19,500
1.1.
I mean it's a great picture I

552
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,800
saw it.
It's very nice.

553
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:29,900
Yeah.
So I know betting is illegal,

554
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:31,900
but I think we need to put a bet
on this thing.

555
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,100
I would give the mega Point some
crazy odds.

556
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,500
Yeah, I don't know, man.
The ultra performance is one

557
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,200
fixture that really gets a good
response and I've never even

558
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,500
demoed.
So I'm pretty interested in life

559
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:55,400
and I stopped, I'm surprised not
not to see the Vera like 3,500.

560
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:59,400
Or 3600, what is it called me?
And I knew that he verily.

561
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,300
Let me see which one it got
bumped by, because it was

562
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:11,100
controversial.
It lost in the first round to

563
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:15,600
the Viper profiles so the fan
following Jesus.

564
00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:20,500
That's crazy.
Yeah.

565
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,500
That is crazy.
Yeah I don't know like I mean if

566
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:30,300
it were me I'd probably go you
know I'm not a huge or a fan but

567
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:36,199
that pxl is pretty cool.
Yeah I'm a big spider thing.

568
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,199
Yeah I thought it was really
interesting too because the

569
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,699
spider went face-to-face with
the I spider and it was it was a

570
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:45,699
pretty dominant preference for
the spider which I thought was

571
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,600
Yeah it depends what time that
vote is happening to because

572
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
people might be, you know,
drinking or something.

573
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,800
Because why wouldn't you pick
the IP ratings by the feedback?

574
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:05,100
But it's heavy too heavy and
it's too Did you have any in

575
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:08,400
your original bracket?
Any of the like current?

576
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
I mean like the 3600 but you
know, the current big LED stuff

577
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,100
that's just, you know, modern
version of what old classic

578
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:19,300
fixtures were.
Well, you like the, you know,

579
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,900
the Ayrton, you know, Camp says
our camps in and the, you know,

580
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,700
the veal 3600 or the ultra
performance.

581
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:28,300
Any of that?
Kind of stuff, you mentioned a

582
00:35:28,308 --> 00:35:31,600
couple of them but like how how
much were those in there in the

583
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,300
original bracket?
So each manufacturer that was

584
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:37,800
Major.
I tried to get one at one in

585
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,500
each bracket, so are its
Manhattan.

586
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,200
I can't remember which ones were
LED, and which ones weren't, but

587
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,700
there was a pretty good
combination.

588
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,100
Yeah.
Oh, that's cool.

589
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,300
Well, I think it's a really fun
thing that you put together.

590
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:55,300
Absolutely happy industry that
we appreciate it.

591
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:59,000
Obviously, you know, you're both
sending your likes and stuff and

592
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,900
Views that speaks for itself but
it's really cool.

593
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:04,700
If you haven't seen it in your
watching, go check it out.

594
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:09,000
March moving like Madness, on
that line wired, any social

595
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,000
channels or online Limelight
wired.com and the app.

596
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,400
So it's really interesting
stuff.

597
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,800
I'm excited to see where it
goes.

598
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,000
Do you have a vision for what?
This becomes in the future or

599
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,500
you just want to kind of keep
evolving?

600
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,200
It organically.
Gosh, I don't know.

601
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,400
I think it would be fun to just
see where it goes, you know.

602
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:32,300
Yeah, I would, I would say an
audio.

603
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,000
The one imitation that, I the
one limitation I really don't

604
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,900
like, is that voting is limited
on my Instagram story for 24

605
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:42,600
hours.
I think if I can move it to my

606
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,900
app and you had a couple days
ago and like each week you had

607
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,700
five days to go lock in your
round of 64 and 32 votes.

608
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,200
So that's, you know, a
possibility that I would like

609
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,900
look to expand it.
So you know, wasn't so you don't

610
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:59,700
have Instagram, you can't really
participate, you know her.

611
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:03,100
Yeah, I don't really pay
attention to Instagram so that's

612
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:08,900
my a problem but I have one.
Well, here's what I mean these

613
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:12,600
are the only other thing you
could do.

614
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:28,000
If you were to put comments
under the number of likes is the

615
00:37:28,008 --> 00:37:29,600
votes.
Yeah.

616
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,600
Yeah.
It's a good thought pretty damn

617
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,800
easy.
It's a low-tech MVP kind of

618
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,700
Knotek option.
What's your things that was

619
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:46,200
happening on ticket?
I don't do it.

620
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:49,900
I'm too old guys.
My age on Tick-Tock or creepy as

621
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:51,800
fuck.
Yeah.

622
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,500
Yeah.
You just don't do it.

623
00:37:56,700 --> 00:38:00,300
I think I'm about individuals
are certainly on.

624
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,700
Tick-Tock and younger
Generations.

625
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,700
You know, like, you know, under
40 people are certainly more

626
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,800
prominent to be there.
I don't know that in today's

627
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,000
world, there's a lot of
businesses on their in our

628
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,400
industry.
Certainly in other Industries,

629
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,900
there are.
But in our industry, there

630
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:16,800
aren't a lot of companies that
are putting out Tick-Tock

631
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,000
content.
But I've ever seen.

632
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:22,000
I mean, I'm not, I don't like
know it but but I think for

633
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,300
individuals in the stuff that
you're doing I could see there

634
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:29,000
being being a following or and
absolutely Yeah, I wouldn't go

635
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,900
voting on the app to me voting
on the app would be the wrong

636
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,400
thing to do because not
everybody likes to use a

637
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,400
separate app, you know, you've
got the audience on Instagram,

638
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,700
why try and send them somewhere
else, you know, if you could

639
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:44,200
keep it within the post I think
that's the best thing you can

640
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,500
possibly do.
So figure out if there's an

641
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:49,900
elegant way to do that.
Like thing that I just said

642
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,000
because that could be really,
really an easy way to do it.

643
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:58,900
Yeah.
So, yeah, like it.

644
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,300
No, I watch, I watch.
I watch videos that people

645
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:05,400
forward to me, and that's about
it.

646
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,500
I've never downloaded the app or
anything, and, you know, there's

647
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:11,800
a lot of funny videos, but I
know myself like, I could

648
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,400
probably get longer.
Yeah.

649
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:17,000
Just sitting there scrolling
through 10,000 cat videos or

650
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,700
whatever, you know?
I just don't go there.

651
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:25,100
I just don't have the time or or
desire to do it while it's still

652
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,500
warm.
Yeah, I'm just I'm sick.

653
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:33,300
I'm shocked how how low Tech
things are that people really

654
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:36,000
latch onto.
You know, like Snapchat, my son,

655
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,700
it's the same.
It's the thing that he uses all

656
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,500
day everyday still after this
long, you know.

657
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,300
And yeah, I mean the lowest Tech
stuff seems to be the stuff that

658
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:50,000
people hang on to.
So, I think.

659
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:04,800
Yeah.
Well, We were selling Vipers for

660
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,500
like, eleven twelve hundred
dollars and they're back up to

661
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,500
what three grand cowers.
Something 2500, don't worry,

662
00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:23,900
Grandpa.
When you know what you can do

663
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:26,900
with it though.
It's almost you almost seem like

664
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:28,500
Wang.
I'd rather get 20 of these

665
00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:31,100
antennas something I don't know,
right?

666
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:34,400
Yeah, well I think we got a
little spoiled in our industry

667
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,700
to where it was just like I'm
going to replace this with this.

668
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:37,800
I'm going to replace this with
this.

669
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,000
I'm going to refer and then when
suddenly there was a bit of a

670
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,100
problem, replacing this with
this, or you needed more gear or

671
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:46,500
whatever.
The Vipers became very relevant

672
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:47,600
again.
It's a great life.

673
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,300
There's nothing wrong with it.
There was no reason for it to be

674
00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:53,800
sent out to pasture at 9:00.
Hundred or a thousand dollars

675
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,700
each or whatever we were getting
at times.

676
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,800
And so yeah I mean we're in a
shake your head market right

677
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,100
now.
Like we, you know, people ask us

678
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,900
all the time.
What do you think I should do

679
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:08,300
with this?
You know, and it's like, I don't

680
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:11,600
know, you know like sell it
today, you're getting way more

681
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,300
than the market was, paying a
year ago.

682
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,700
Do I think it's going to keep
going up, I don't know, like, I

683
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:21,200
just don't know, you know, it's,
it's batshit crazy gear market

684
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,000
right now.
Without my answer that question

685
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,500
is usually that I don't think
it's going to continue to go up

686
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:30,400
but I also thought that a year
ago and it continued until yup.

687
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:35,100
Well yeah, no me too.
Now there's a lot of signs that

688
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,100
there's an end coming.
You know, and there's signs also

689
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,400
that there's an incoming to the
free-for-all on concerts and

690
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,200
stuff like that.
Like I mean, at some point,

691
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,500
people are going to run out of
available cash to go see, you

692
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:51,400
know, five hundred dollar ticket
concerts or whatever.

693
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Right.
Like great.

694
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,600
Four thousand dollars for the
nosebleeds.

695
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,300
But, you know, again, I always
loved to pick on Motley Crue,

696
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:02,900
they were 400 bucks at the Hard
Rock just last week, you know,

697
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:10,200
$400 to see Motley Crue, Go
figure, do you need me to

698
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:21,900
explain who Motley Crue is right
there in that much.

699
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,200
Not going to drink juice.
I do.

700
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,500
Like, I've been lucky enough to
speak at ldi, the past, two

701
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:46,700
years when Sovereign candle
collectives, programming panel

702
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:49,700
and an take the elbow lights on
the spin for the busking

703
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:51,800
challenge, which is like, oh,
cool.

704
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,000
A really fun thing that they've
done because and I hope my

705
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
internet is connecting Good.
Will I tell this?

706
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
But like, yeah, you know, they
set up seven different consoles

707
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,900
to the same rig and, you know,
you get a one hour time slot

708
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,000
with it.
And then, essentially, in front

709
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,800
of everyone, you busk with
Okthat's you have no idea what's

710
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,000
going to come and you know that
hasn't ever existed in the

711
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
lighting world, you know, like a
like a battle type thing and

712
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,700
they, you know, there's no
Wards.

713
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:20,500
It's all just for
experimentation and fun and to

714
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:24,800
see how someone could possibly
busk on a on an EOS, you know,

715
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:32,100
demeanor, it's fun.
So I do always put the sugar

716
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:34,400
trade floors.
I try to make some sort of recap

717
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,400
video of every convention that I
go to.

718
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:39,800
There's just so much to see So
you know, it's good to see all

719
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,400
the people who commit
conventions are fun.

720
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,000
Man.
It was sad.

721
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,700
When they were gone and to come
back and see everybody back on.

722
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,500
I completely agree with you.
Yeah, yeah.

723
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:54,900
It's we say this all the time
especially over covid-19 Chan

724
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:58,100
industry that when our paths
cross are almost the most

725
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:00,800
magical times, you know, how
could, how could something be

726
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,200
more magical than the shows we
make?

727
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,000
Well, it's the people that we
make the shows with, right?

728
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,300
So getting to see all those
people even that we'd never

729
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:10,800
Percy in person that we only
email is.

730
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,700
Yeah, he's good.
You know I gotta say I even

731
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:18,100
enjoy seeing the ones that I
don't like you know, I mean, I

732
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:21,500
miss them too.
Like it was like, you know, I'm

733
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:32,400
not going to mention any names,
but this feels weird but I was

734
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:56,100
right.
I'll past or no onions.

735
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,700
No.
That's or all right.

736
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,400
All right.
I should I should take an

737
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,300
official vote on these.
I haven't done that, but okay,

738
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,100
that's great.
What's what's the one that

739
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:10,000
starts with a beak?
Is it Priya?

740
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,900
Yeah.
That one is that one's

741
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:15,200
outrageous.
I finally had one of those or a

742
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,100
bun like frightfully in the
sauce.

743
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,700
I don't know.
I mean, they're really bad for

744
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:22,000
you and I shouldn't eat them,
but God damn, they're good.

745
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:25,700
That's the worst.
You're doing, you're doing okay.

746
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:30,200
Yeah, exactly Noah man.
Thank you for having me.

747
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,200
Like I said, I've been following
the podcast forever.

748
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000
I mean I feel like all of my
idols been on this the meacham's

749
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,700
of your sins, you know?
It's, it's fun to be a part of a

750
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:41,400
small part of it and I'm just
I'm very appreciative.

751
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:45,100
No problem.
We're glad you could join us.

752
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,200
And yeah, everybody check out at
Limelight wired and putting your

753
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,800
vote for the final eight in in
the moving, light bracket and

754
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:55,900
we'll see if we can kick the
mega point, off the throne.

755
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000
I think it'd be fun fine.
Aw, thanks.

756
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:02,000
Thank you.