#333 - Tim "Quake" Mark - Navigating Health Challenges and Career Success

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I've been in the music business
for 48 years.

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I've been touring for 45 years.
In 45 years, I've been shot

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once, stabbed twice.
I've survived 2 cardiac arrest.

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I walked away from 2:00 plane
crashes, 3 bus crashes, 4 bus

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fires, fell out of a trusted 18
feet, Od'd once, and had guns

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pulled on me four other times.
Now ask me why I believe in God

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and why I can't sleep.
Yeah, anything that doesn't kill

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you makes you stronger, and you
have to face your fears.

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Today on Giza of Gear, we're
excited to welcome back Tim

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Quake Mark, a legendary front of
house engineer, production

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manager and tour manager.
With more than 40 years in the

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music industry, Quake has worked
with some of rock's biggest

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names including Slash featuring
Miles Kennedy and The

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Conspirators, Stone Temple
Pilots, Goo Goo Dolls, Jack's

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Mannequin, Tracy Chapman and
Jane's Addiction.

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His career spans thousands of
shows across theaters, arenas,

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stadiums and festivals
worldwide, mastering front of

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house sound tour logistics and
full scale production.

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Along the way, Quake has
survived multiple bus and plane

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incidents on the road,
emergencies and serious health

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challenges, earning the respect
of artists and crews alike.

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Beyond touring, Quake is the
founder of Workshop Management

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and High Concept Sync, a partner
at Sad Summer Festival and a

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touring sales consultant for
Video W, helping shape the

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future of live production.
Known for his expertise, grit

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and passion, Quake is a true
icon in live entertainment.

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Welcome Tim.
Quake Mark Well, hello there,

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Mr. Tim.
Quake Mark.

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So that sounds like a lot of
names, to be honest with you.

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Well, as I tell everybody, the
only thing I ever got for you in

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my whole life was my given name.
I have the nickname Quake, and

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that's why I use it.
Yeah, that and I work with a lot

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of people named Tim, and it's
just easier to just go quake.

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And yeah, unless you're a
rapper, you don't know too many

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quakes in the in the technic
side.

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That's true.
That's true too.

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And Quake I would guess has
something to do with you being a

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little bit loud or.
Actually, no, it's it's funny.

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When I was in high school, well
actually growing up, I, I was

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like a semi professional actor
and at 16 I took my first job

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with a band and I had to take
three months off do a production

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of Little Abner and I played the
part of Earthquake Magoon, the

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old retired wrestler to chase
Daisy May right now I've been

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five 10200 and some odd pounds
since I was 14 years old.

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So I was always a big guy and
all the guys in the band came

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out and saw the show and said,
wow, you're actually pretty good

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at that acting stuff.
What are you doing working for

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us?
I'm like, you pay better.

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And they first show back, I went
to go jump onto the drum riser

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and I tripped and fell, knocked
the drum kit over, broke every

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symbol the guy had.
He stood up, threw his sticks at

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me, called me a goddamn
earthquake. 48 years later,

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that's what I've known is.
Yeah, there you go.

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I'm sure you told me that story
on our first podcast.

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But that was that was five years
ago and a lot has happened since

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then.
That's true that it was actually

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almost exactly 5 years ago,
because it was October 2020.

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When you were on a podcast,
you're right.

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Yeah.
Wow.

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Holy cow.
Yeah, a lot has happened.

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But funny, when you mentioned
about the quake and the sound,

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when I started doing touring and
in earnest in the mid 80s, I

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would show up to venues and I'd
find compressors and places.

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I would never think of putting
them and they're like, we're

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going to blow stuff up.
I'm like, I've been mixing for

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48 years and in 48 years I can
count on two hands how many

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drivers I've blown and most of
them are because an amp went DC

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or something.
It wasn't actually me.

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I was taught very early on how
to hear clipping.

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So I know, oh, that's bad, let's
not do that.

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You know, my first real tour was
with Billy Sheehan's band Tallis

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in 1980, and we opened for Van
Halen and one of the after like

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the first two weeks of working
with a band, the owner of the

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sound company went, I don't know
about this kid.

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He hasn't blown anything up yet.
Yeah.

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And I'm like, well, isn't that
the idea?

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The I replaced the other guy who
had a collection of blown

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drivers at this one store in
Buffalo, you know, and he

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probably went through 200 some
odd drivers in a year, you know?

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Wow.
Yeah, I, I remember the Tallis

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story that you told on our last
podcast, 'cause I, I was

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actually a fan of Tallis back
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And and then after that, Racer
X, which I think had a couple of

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guys from Tallis and.
Well, Mr. Pig had one of the

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guitar players from Racer X and
Billy Sheehan.

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Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's true.

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Yeah.
But Billy Sheehan was obviously

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in Telus.
Yeah, but it's funny that I, I,

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I did Stone Temple Pilots all
the way through 24 and we had a

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young lighting guy by the name
of Tyler Armitrout from Chicago

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working with us.
And if, oh, gosh, was it 2223

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somewhere in there where we're
pulling up to a festival in

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Sacramento.
And we're talking about all

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these people that I know that he
knows.

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He's like, do you know somebody
everywhere?

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And I'm like, well, I didn't
know you until a year ago.

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And we pull up outside the hotel
in Sacramento, We're going to

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play Aftershock, one of those
Danny Wimmer festivals, and

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there's a guy in the middle of
the street trying to back a bus.

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And I'm shocked.
Get the hell out of the road.

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Well, hey, Quake.
And then the bus driver drops

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out.
So Quake.

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Oh, my God.
And he's like in a parking lot

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in the middle of Sacramento.
You know somebody.

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I'm like, I was his sound guy
back when he was a musician.

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And the bus driver's driving me
a dozen times.

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So we, we, we go do a bunch more
shows.

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And he was dumbfounded when we
showed up at Aftershock.

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And we're the second to the last
band on the second stage.

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And during the day he goes the
headliner people all showed up

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to say hello to you.
The people from the mainstage,

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all the stage crew from there
came over to say hello to you.

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Guys from other bands were
walking over and, you know, hey,

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Quake, Hey Quake.
I'm like when you've been doing

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it as long as me, you know.
So we we go to Latin America and

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we're at our first show in Costa
Rica.

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We had a load in day, thank God.
And then the next day he went in

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with me early so he could do
some programming and he's gone.

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So how many people you going to
know here?

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I said, I've never been to Costa
Rica.

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I don't know anybody.
And I'm sitting in my office and

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just facing this big garage door
and through the garage door come

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walking to people.
And all I can see is their

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silhouettes because it's so
bright as they cross the

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threshold to my office going,
Oh, my God, Quake, how are you?

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It was Frankie Perez and the
monitor guy, this guy Glenn, and

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they were with Apocalyptica.
You know, Frankie was a singer

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and stuff.
And he's like, see, we're in

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Costa Rica and, you know,
somebody, We go to Buenos Aires

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and, you know, all the promoters
and stuff.

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Oh, Quake, it's so good to see
you again.

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Wonderful.
And, you know, we show up at the

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venue and the stagehands are
coming up.

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Quake, welcome back.
You know, they actually learned

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English just to say that to me.
Yeah.

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And then we're flying to Rio de
Janeiro to do a club show.

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And then we had a festival right
after that.

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And at the club show, Winery
dogs were opening for us.

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And I'm standing Great.
Or actually not.

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We weren't in Buenos Aires.
We're in Santiago.

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And I'm standing there at the
gate in Santiago waiting to get

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on the plane.
I need to tap on the shoulder.

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And it's Billy Sheehan.
Oh, my God.

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Quake.
What do you have?

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Actually, you're opening up for
us tomorrow.

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So I'm with some temple pilots
and stuff.

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That was the first time I had
seen Billy since 2000.

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Yeah, 2000.
My first show was Slash was the

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last time I physically saw him.
We traded a couple of texts in

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a.
Couple why was he at your first

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show was slash?
Just fan.

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Oh, he was just hanging out.
Yeah, and it's it's funny

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because I come out of the
dressing room with my set list

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and my towel, my bottle of
water, and the first person I

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run into is Mike Faley.
Now, Mike was the guy who I had

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replaced with Talus is the sound
guy.

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Mike wanted to go into
management and, and stuff like

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that.
And he, I can't remember how

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it's got to be almost 30 years.
He's been the president of Metal

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Blade Records and he's Oh my
God.

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Quick, what do you do in your
old man for the house guy?

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He goes, oh wait, I got to bring
somebody over here to see you.

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Here comes.
Delirious, like what are you

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doing here?
I said my first show was Slash

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and Jim Mitchell, who was the
studio engineer that worked with

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Slash quite a bit back in those
days, was standing there as

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well.
And just before I hit play on on

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the intro, Slash leans over and
goes, you better do a good job

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kid, or he's going to fire you
and OK, cool, we start the show

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3 songs into a Jim's going nuts.
He goes, Oh my God, I'm in the

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whiskey and I can hear the
singer over Slash and I can hear

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the IT sounds like a band.
How did you learn to mix over

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such a loud guitar player?
I said working for Billy, you

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know, I mean back in those days
he had half of he had more power

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in his bass rig.
Than I was going to ask you like

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because he uses those like
Pierce guitar preamps and his

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bass just sounds ridiculous.
You know, it's so distorted.

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It doesn't even sound like a
bass.

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It's hardly got low end.
And I'm not putting him down.

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The guy's an incredible player
and he ends up with a good

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sound, but it's got to be tough
to mix him.

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It was back in the when I was
working with him, he had I got 3

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signals from him.
I got a direct signal, yeah.

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And he had 22 guitar cables
coming out of his guitar. 1 was

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just the direct signal, just a
standard bass sound.

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The other one went into a couple
of preamps.

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One side went into a harmonizer,
which he would mess around with

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every once in a while, but most
of the time just a little bit of

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the delay to it.
And then the other one was

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distorted.
And I had two mics on those

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cabinets.
And just, you know, unique would

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be the phrase I would use
because, you know, I there was

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one night where we'd all had a
little bit more to drink than

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probably should have.
But that's how you learn not to

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drink that much.
But I'm listening to Billy play

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and he's playing the standard
baseline to the song.

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And on top of it, with his left
hand on his neck, he's playing

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Living in America from West Side
Story.

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And I'm like, I can't think like
that can do that, you know?

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But that's, you know, as I tell
folks, they're like, well, how

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did he get to be such a great
bass player?

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That guy never left.
I mean, he went everywhere with

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that guitar.
I've actually seen interviews

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with him where he's, you know,
playing his bass during the

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interview, just hanging out with
it.

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And you know, that's how you get
to know that instrument that.

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Well, he's an extremely,
extremely talented guy.

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Like when I, when I was younger,
I, he was one of my favorite

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musicians because I was a bass
player as well.

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But then I kind of learned like,
I don't know if you call it

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etiquette or, or just to shut up
and quit overplaying everything

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all the time.
And I stopped trying to be a

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lead bass player, you know, and
just tried to carry the bottom

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end a little bit more like.
And you know, one example of his

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that I didn't like.
And I'm not here to put down

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Billy Sheehan by any stretch.
But with Winery Dogs, they did a

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cover of Fooled around and fell
in love, which is incredible.

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Like, you know, I happen to love
his voice and you know Richie

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Cotson's voice and and but you
know, she and just can't stop

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himself.
So it's like, you know, fooled

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around and fell in love and he's
gone.

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It's like stop, stop it.
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And it's funny, when we were in
1980, when we were opening for

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Van Halen, the last song that
they would play for the set out,

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we got whopping 30 minutes.
They would play, not fade away.

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And the guitar player would come
up behind him, a guy named Dave

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Constantino, and he'd reach in
front and he'd start playing the

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bass.
Billy would reach behind him and

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start playing guitar.
Yeah, finally got his moment to

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play guitar.
But they would kneel down and

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start rolling around on the
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missed a lick.
And it was incredible.

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Just the musicianship in that,
you know, especially in that

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original three piece band was
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And they all sang like birds and
which is the same thing.

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Winery Dogs, you know, reminds
me a lot of that band.

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Just all really great voice and
and and outstanding musicians.

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Yeah, incredible.
I love that band Winery Dogs.

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It's one of the worst parts
about what's his name, Portnoy.

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Going back to Dream Theater is
cause winery dogs disappeared at

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that point.
So I was a huge fan of winery

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dogs.
So sorry, what were you gonna

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say?
No, go ahead.

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You know, before we get into it,
you have such an incredible

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story that we did go through in
our first podcast, but it's,

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it's the bad part of your story
where you have this incredible

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luck with, with flying and, and
travelling and buses and, you

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know, weaponry and all kinds of
stuff.

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So.
Yeah, what I tell, especially

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with younger group or any band
that I start with, I I say let

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me just give you the speech and
get it out of the way.

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I've been in the music business
for 48 years.

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I've been touring for 45 years.
In 45 years, I've been shot

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once, stabbed twice.
I've survived 2 cardiac arrest I

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walked away from 2:00 plane
crashes, 3 bus crashes, 4 bus

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fires, fell out of a trusted 18
feet, Od'd once and had guns

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pulled on me four other times.
Now ask me why I believe in God

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and why I You can't sleep.
Yeah.

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Yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
Especially sleep on a bus.

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I'd never sleep on a bus again
if I were you.

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Yeah, well, you know, you.
What's a good way of putting

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this?
Anything that doesn't kill you

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makes you stronger and you have
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Yeah, I will admit that the
after the second plane crash,

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which was in 1999 with the Goo
Goo Dolls in Sigonella, Sicily,

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at a Navy Air Station the next
day was kind of hard to get on

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to get on a commercial.
How do you?

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Get in two plane crashes.
Just, you know, I'm named after

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a disaster for a reason.
Just dumb luck, you know?

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I mean, I, as I tell younger
people getting into the

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business, don't take my story as
being what you're going to

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experience in yours.
You know, mine's unique and

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that's what makes all of us
unique people, is our different

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types of experiences.
And, you know, experience comes

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when you have when you expect a
different result.

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You know, that's true.
But yeah, you know, it's, it's,

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it's there's times where you
know, and there I will admit,

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too, that I've walked away from
a couple of planes and said, no,

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I'm not flying.
I just can't do it.

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And there's been a couple of bus
drivers I've had replaced just

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because I didn't feel safe.
But those, you know, you learn

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to live with it, and you learn
to, you know, it's one thing to

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sit and criticize somebody for
what they do and another thing

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to be able to do it better.
And, you know, let's face it,

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bus drivers are now finally
starting to make a decent wage.

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And they're being respected for
the fact that, you know, they

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have the lives of how many
people sleeping behind them, you

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know, and, and I've had all the
types of bus drivers.

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I had the guy that one of the I
was doing a band young lady by

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the name of Stacy Q in the 80s.
And we had a bus driver who

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said, you can put a cup of
coffee on that couch and go to

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bed and it will still be there
when you get on.

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And so the tour manager wedged a
cup of coffee in the between the

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seats pretty full one night just
to see if it would spill.

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And he got up and what cushions
aren't wet?

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He didn't spill the coffee and
he was slowed down in the middle

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of the night.
Now, conversely, I did a tour

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with Jane's Addiction in 1999 or
sorry, 1990, where the bus

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driver.
Hi, my name is Frank.

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I'm the I'm my nickname is the
Midget maker.

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Now, if you've ever travelled on
your bus, you know the Midget

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makers.
The guy slams brakes on you,

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switch down to the end of your
bunk.

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You know he's making you a
Midget.

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And he wasn't lying.
I mean, I I've got I got thrown

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out of my bunk a couple of
times.

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I he somehow popped the clutch
gas, the gun and hit the brakes

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all at once one time and I went
flying forward, had to grab the

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little gazebo thing and threw my
back out.

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And that was how I entered
Canada for how the change

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addiction to her.
But yeah, it's.

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And then does anyone say
anything to the bus driver when

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that happens?
Yeah, they do, believe me at

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that.
And it's ironic because that

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trip where, you know, I throw my
back out tour manager comes in.

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All right, well, we'll, you
know, we'll we'll get you

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through the border and
everything and we'll send you to

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a chiropractor as soon as you
get into Montreal.

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And at the end of the night, I'm
dragging the last piece of Truss

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out of the building and I look
and I see the back of the bus

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open.
Well, before we went into

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Canada, we stopped at a little
mom and pop truck stop, as you

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do, to get rid of things that
shouldn't go to Canada.

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And he decides he's going to
fuel up and other bus drivers,

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like, I don't know if I'd do it
at this place.

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Place doesn't look quite right.
Well, he took fuel on and he

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took on some water in his fuel
and his bus yelled.

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And so I, you know, OK, call the
band up.

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Hey, you got to come over here
with your boss, pick up

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everybody.
I rode the semi that night.

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We drove to Toronto.
The did the show in Toronto the

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next day.
I realistically was the only

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person that actually slept
because, you know, crew people

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are laying on the floor of the
band bus and, and everything.

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And, you know, they only had
eight bunks.

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They didn't really have a lot of
room for anybody else.

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And we did the show in Toronto.
The next day was a Monday.

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Perry and the tour manager flew.
To Cleveland, where our next

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year was and we, you know,
everybody piled into the band

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bus and we stopped in Buffalo.
I said, we got to stop at this

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place you're going to you're
going to order chicken wings

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from it and you're going to
thank me when we leave.

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And it was a place called the
Nova's.

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Everybody that comes to Buffalo,
I tell them you can get good

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wings anywhere.
You don't bother going to Anchor

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Bar.
It's just a tourist trap.

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And it's not like the 15th owner
or something like that.

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Try this place and try the
barbecued wings and you'll thank

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me for well, I put in an order
for wings, ran up the street,

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could my old roommate lived up
the street to say hello, came

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back, grabbed my wings, got in
the bus, there's stacks of

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boxes.
Everybody ordered wings.

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But we had another bus driver a
couple of days later so which

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was nice.
Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, that's just crazy, crazy
luck, yeah.

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Exactly.
And same thing with the plane

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classes.
You know, you know, bad weather

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pulling into a Saginaw, Sicily
in 1999.

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And the other one was in 87.
I was flying from LA to back

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home to Buffalo at the time.
And we had to go into JFK and I

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was on an American Airlines
flight and he missed the runway.

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He literally landed and with the
nose down into the water.

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And when you see the pilot
coming going go that way and and

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there's water coming up that
way.

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OK, let's leave.
Now.

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Back in those days, you didn't
have 10 carry ONS, you know, you

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know, So it was, you know, a lot
easier just to pick up and run.

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But yeah, wow.
That's nuts.

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That's completely nuts.
So last time we had you on was

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pretty much exactly 5 years ago
and October of, of COVID year

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2020.
And so I mean, what have you

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been up to?
What's, what's news since then?

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It's five years and.
Been quite busy.

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Yeah.
Yeah, there's been quite a bit,

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so I'll start right back.
Yeah.

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During the pandemic there about
about three weeks after we did

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our our podcast here.
It was right.

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Literally the Friday after the
election, my wife got up to use

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the restroom of them all night,
slipped in our bathroom, fell

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and fractured her skull.
Immediately put into intensive

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care, she fractured her skull
right behind her left ear.

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So she lost 90% of her hearing
behind her in her left ear.

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The good news is she figured out
she only has to work half as

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hard to ignore me, but she that
caused a stroke up here, which

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is emotion reason things like
that and she's got some pretty

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heavy duty memory issues still
has some emotional issues, but I

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I'm very proud of her She's
coming a long way in five years.

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Wow.
And during that she.

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Have to.
Does she do like some sort of

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rehab or anything?
Like this she did some rehab for

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quite a while.
There was some issues like

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picking up a fork and looking at
it going I don't know what am I

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supposed to do this, You know,
things like.

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That I do that every day or two.
Too.

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Oh, yeah.
You know, if this that's where

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the white hair comes in.
Yeah, exactly.

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But they, you know, and and and
still she has she'll have gaps

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in her memory.
I'll go on the road for a period

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of time and I'll get a call.
Everything will be great for a

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couple of weeks.
And all of a sudden, one day

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I'll get a call in the morning.
Where are you?

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I'm in such and such with this
band.

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Oh.
Oh, OK.

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And then a couple hours later,
are you at work?

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Yeah, I'm at work with this band
in this city.

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And you know it.
It just comes a little episodes

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like that.
The good news is those episodes

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have gotten fewer and far
between They.

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It's going to make you feel
terrible leaving though I guess.

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Yes and yes and no.
Yeah, my wifes a very

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independent person and which is
part of the reason why we, I

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mean, we've been married for 35
years now.

443
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,400
We got married in 1990, right?
Literally when I started working

444
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,960
for Jane's Addiction, I had to
go.

445
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,080
You see these dates right in the
beginning of the tour here, I

446
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,400
got a problem.
I've been engaged for 18 months

447
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,160
and she's Sicilian.
If I don't show up at the

448
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,200
wedding, probably not.
It might be a problem.

449
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:04,080
Yeah, if she doesn't kill me,
her dad will.

450
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,680
Yeah, yeah.
Well, and her dad was Sicilian,

451
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,720
her mom was Irish.
So my wife is Sicilian and

452
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,240
Irish.
So not only does she have the

453
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,800
temper, but she knows where to
hide the bodies.

454
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320
So.
But yeah, the, you know, but

455
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,960
we've been together for 35 years
and she stuck with me through

456
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,480
all that.
And a year later, she had a one

457
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,080
of her cousins moved in with us.
She lived, she lived in

458
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Connecticut and was going
through a divorce.

459
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,480
Ironically, they got married a
week before we did.

460
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,080
And she stayed with us for about
6 months so I could start

461
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,760
working.
I started just doing some stuff

462
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,800
locally with a regional company
called Northeastern here in

463
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,680
Rochester, NY, and then started
going, doing stone temple pilot

464
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,800
dates and such.
And she moved out after six

465
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,520
months.
Now she had two daughters going

466
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,400
to school in Western New York
and decided to be a good idea to

467
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,040
be here and there's more family
here and everything else.

468
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,480
And when she moved out, she
goes, I don't understand why

469
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,880
you're still here.
And I'm like, what do you mean?

470
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,720
And she goes, all she does is
yell at you and you know, and,

471
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,600
and one minute she's fine.
Next minute I'm like, well,

472
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,320
First off, unlike your husband,
I took a vow to death to his

473
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,040
part, little dad.
I know that my wife looks at at

474
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,240
his goal, but I'm here.
I'm in here for the long run and

475
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000
that's for better or worse.
And I know that that's not her.

476
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,520
That's the injury talking.
And she's like, wow, you're.

477
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,600
A lot better person.
That's that's incredible

478
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,840
patience.
And during.

479
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,400
Yeah.
And about a year after that, my

480
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,400
daughter said something to me
that, you know, just made me

481
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,400
almost wanted, you know, made me
cry, she said.

482
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,640
Dad, when I knew who you were
and I learned what kind of a man

483
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,760
you were, when Mom got hurt, the
way you stood by her and what

484
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,240
you fought like hell.
You know, during the pandemic, I

485
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,080
had taken some training in the
insurance industry and I got

486
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,600
licensed to be a life accident
health broker during that period

487
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,440
of time.
Little did I know I'd have to

488
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,200
use that experience.
Against the.

489
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,360
Hospital and against the
insurance companies.

490
00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:58,200
Wow, that is the most brutal
part of getting sick or having

491
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,640
an injury or anything is.
Oh yeah, just.

492
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,480
Realizing how shitty that whole
business is, the whole health

493
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,720
care.
Business, you know, but in 21, I

494
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,000
did did go back to work doing
Stone Temple Pilots and things

495
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,080
went fairly well.
We did a couple of 1 offs and I

496
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,880
wound up catching COVID for the
first time.

497
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,200
We've been very careful.
This is in, you know, Fast

498
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,080
forward to 2222.
I did a short run in the US with

499
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Slash Miles Kennedy, with the
conspirators, your friends Todd.

500
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,400
Yeah, and Brent.
And that went really well

501
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,600
considering it was post COVID.
Everybody had to wear masks,

502
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,840
take your temperature every day,
COVID test every other show, you

503
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,440
know?
Well, yeah, but we got to do

504
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,160
what we got to do to get to
work, back to work.

505
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,200
And we came off that.
I started doing some 1 offs with

506
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,520
Stone Temple Pilots.
We did a couple of dates in

507
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,440
Canada, had to go to Fort
Collins, Co for this big rodeo

508
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,400
thing.
Stone Temple Pilots playing at a

509
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,760
rodeo.
I just realized that's kind of

510
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,760
weird.
But the flying home from that,

511
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,360
the lady across me coughing up a
storm, I'm like, I got my mask

512
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,520
on.
I'm trying to sneak water and I

513
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720
know that two days later I got
COVID.

514
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,400
We've been so careful because of
my wife.

515
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,920
Now I'm sick as a dog.
I'm in bed.

516
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,760
I can't do anything for two
weeks.

517
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,760
My wife gets sick, she's in bed
for two days and then she's

518
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040
fine.
I'm like, why the heck, wait a

519
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,880
minute, you know?
But yeah, I come back to work

520
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:33,600
and did two shows in one weekend
with STP and we had Daughtry

521
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,480
opening for us and both were at
casinos.

522
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,280
One was in Pocatello, the other
one was in Spokane.

523
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:45,080
And the Pocatello show, it was
105 out and Spokane was 104.

524
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,760
So really hot days, very long
days for me.

525
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,760
After Pocatello, we had to drive
to Salt Lake and then catch a

526
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,200
flight early morning into
Spokane.

527
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,520
I didn't sleep because I rode in
the van up up front talking to

528
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,240
the driver.
You know, 3 O clock in the

529
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,440
morning to keep this guy awake.
It's a limo van driver.

530
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Who knows if he actually had
rest and took a little nap, took

531
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,160
a shower, got on the plane, got
into the casino.

532
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,080
We played in Spokane, sent
everybody their rooms, and I get

533
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,320
a call from the tour manager for
daughter.

534
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,840
He goes.
We got a little problem.

535
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,280
Our buses are limping.
And I said, yeah, your truck's

536
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,160
here already.
I've already got my stuff, my

537
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,440
air freight or I had a hotshot
cargo company driving a van full

538
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,720
of gear and we had rental gear
there.

539
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,280
I said I've already unloaded my
stuff.

540
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,200
I'm starting on yours right now.
Don't worry about it, you're

541
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,800
fine.
And we go through the day, it's

542
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,240
hot as heck.
My crew shows up.

543
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Oh, everything's pretty much
ready for us.

544
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,320
Just, you know, put the drum kit
together and, you know, put you

545
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,640
plug your amps into your sound
check and Daughtry shows up and

546
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,760
they're like cool.
You know, everything's labeled.

547
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,320
All right, you're going to walk
in and you're going to go on

548
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,080
that, you know, here's your
dressing rooms and we start the

549
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,400
show and everything's going
fine.

550
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,480
And during STPI, just put Chris
Autry on stage.

551
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
You sing with STP.
And I walked to the edge of the

552
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,640
stairs.
I look at the promoter and said,

553
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,040
get your ambulance drivers.
And he's like what?

554
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320
I said, get your and I come to
in the dressing room.

555
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,680
I passed out and I'm like, I
don't pass out.

556
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,840
What the heck is this?
And they're you know, well

557
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,880
that's the 4th EKG.
His heart looks fine.

558
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,240
I don't know what the heck is
going on.

559
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,000
I said I feel like somebody ran
me over with a truck.

560
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,720
So they let me fly home the next
day I fly home, go to

561
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,400
immediately call my doctor.
That was a Sunday.

562
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040
Monday I'm in the doctor's
office and he goes, you're just

563
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,800
not well enough to go back to
work yet.

564
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,880
You got to go home.
You can not work for two more

565
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,040
weeks.
I'm like, oh great.

566
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,480
Well, STP was doing the, I think
they called it the show for the

567
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Earth.
It was being put on him over in

568
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Portugal, in the Azores.
And it was something that, oh

569
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560
gosh, Nino Betten, Nuno
Bettencourt, it was his

570
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,320
brainchild.
And I had talked the promoter

571
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,600
Rep that they had doing the
build and everything else had

572
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,760
talked me into flying over
early.

573
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760
I was going to stage manage both
days for them.

574
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:12,040
The first day was STP and oh
good gosh, what was her name?

575
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:19,480
Black Eyed Peas.
And the next day was Bush and oh

576
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,000
gosh, bald rap guy.
I can't remember.

577
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Bald rap guy.
Yeah, put Pitbull, you know, and

578
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,760
I had to call up and go, yeah, I
can't do it.

579
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,320
Well, my crew from STP calls me
and goes, you never guess where

580
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,000
our stage manager is.
I'm like, who?

581
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,040
They went noodle?
I'm like, well, there you go.

582
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,120
He gets a little.
That's your experience for it.

583
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,800
But yeah, when I finally got
back to work, they did an MRI of

584
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840
me and everything and they went,
oh, you got a bunch of stuff

585
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,360
going on in your liver and
kidneys.

586
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,440
We're going to keep an eye on
you.

587
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,560
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You know, 23 did, did a bunch of

604
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,720
STP stuff again.
We did a tour down in Latin

605
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,560
America.
Went really well.

606
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,840
I, you know, just told about
running into Billy Sheehan there

607
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:15,480
and he come back from that.
Started some shows for the US

608
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,080
military.
Had to take a break 'cause one

609
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,840
of the guys got sick and went
out and did a few more.

610
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,000
One offs came back and I caught
COVID again.

611
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,720
Now it's my second time with
COVID and I get a phone call

612
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360
while I'm laying in bed.
In 2023 too, in 23, like now

613
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,000
it's not cool anymore to have
COVID, you know, that's like

614
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680
such a 2020 thing.
Yeah, well, I get a.

615
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,800
Call and they're like how fast
can you get on a plane?

616
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,840
I said well, I got COVID so it's
going to be about a week and I

617
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,960
said good, we don't need you
until this date.

618
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,560
I'm like who you calling me
about?

619
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,120
And they're all Daughtry.
We need you to come in and tour

620
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,520
manage production manager, do
front of house.

621
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,160
I'm like, I thought they had a
tour manager, production manager

622
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,080
and a separate front of house
guy and they said, well,

623
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,560
management decide to consolidate
that year and the guy they had

624
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,720
just wasn't working out.
So they they had it.

625
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,400
They've been suggested to call
me from a guy named Tater

626
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,720
monitor guy that I know he's
their account Rep for sound

627
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
image and he said don't there's
only one guy to call that's

628
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,320
quick.
He's an expert at digging out of

629
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,960
problems.
And I have to say that First

630
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,200
off, it would have, you know, it
was an interesting tour because

631
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,160
it was an acoustic tour, but we
had six shows that were electric

632
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,960
and what a good band and, you
know, interesting to work with.

633
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,240
Chris is got a very different
songwriting style and he and

634
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,680
it's funny because he just put
the heaviest record out of his

635
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
career and then he's doing an
acoustic tour.

636
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,960
That is wild.
Yeah, weird.

637
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,360
But I'd, I'd had some problems
with the console and did two

638
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,160
shows, got into Bethlehem, PA
for a day off, called a friend

639
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,240
of mine up at Clare Brothers and
what is he said I got to

640
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,200
somebody got to come fix his
desk, back and forth, back and

641
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,840
forth.
They're, you know, 3:30 in the

642
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,240
afternoon I call or 3:00 in the
afternoon I call myself.

643
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,960
What do you know?
And he goes, well, I'm having a

644
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,280
little problem because they just
Claire Brothers had just bought

645
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,320
Sound Image and it was a sound
image account.

646
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,280
They're like, well, you know,
they're kind of having an odd.

647
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:18,239
So he goes 330 Troy, Claire and
Greg and their guy that does

648
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,960
their training are all having a
meeting.

649
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Yeah, the guy that does their
training used to be a bass

650
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,320
player in Buffalo that I used to
work for on occasion.

651
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,080
And they he walks in and goes,
well, you know what's going on

652
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,440
with Daughtry?
Well, they're kind of hamming it

653
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,679
on.
He goes, look, it's for the guy

654
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,400
that started me in the business.
And the guy from Buffalo goes,

655
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,360
wait a minute, you're from
Buffalo.

656
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Who's who is it?
He goes Quake.

657
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,120
And both Greg and this guy
turned around when when the hell

658
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,480
the quake start makes a Daughtry
what, 2 days ago?

659
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,159
And it's our stuff and it's not
working.

660
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,280
And Greg's like, I can't believe
we can't hear him yelling from

661
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,639
here.
And yeah, and I'm like, you

662
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,080
know, so they showed up, got my
console fixed and I made him

663
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,560
bring a Pro Tool rig out.
Well, the next day we played

664
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,600
another casino.
I made my crew load in the

665
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,520
entire electric show.
I Pro Tooled 3 songs so I could

666
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,720
rehearse and not show up because
they're.

667
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,280
The first electric show they had
was the Rock Lahoma Festival and

668
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,240
Pro Tool, you know, 3 songs for
them and the, and set the

669
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:18,920
acoustic set up and you know,
did A1 song sound check at which

670
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,400
was one of the nice things about
that organization.

671
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Chris got very comfortable with
me very quickly and so sound

672
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,880
checks got really short because
he realized he's good.

673
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,280
He I don't need to worry about
him as long as I'm comfortable.

674
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,520
He's got this.
The the I I never forget the

675
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120
first show at the end after tip
of my console and going

676
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,840
downstairs, the keyboard player
LVO, who's from Rochester as

677
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,920
well, comes walking up crying
and hugs me and he goes, I can't

678
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,080
believe it.
I could hear myself.

679
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,360
I'm like, what do you mean?
He goes my vocals.

680
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,480
I could, I've never heard myself
before.

681
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,800
OK.
And then the band comes out and

682
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,840
they're the 2 guitar players
come up and go.

683
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Your acoustic sound is amazing.
I'm like, this is day one.

684
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Will you give me a week?
You know, but that so I Pro

685
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,120
Tools the thing that following
Wednesday, it's the first rock

686
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:12,440
shows that Saturday was the only
day I had a chance to sit around

687
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
with one of the track, any of
the tracks at all.

688
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,320
So I spent a little time getting
tones on everything.

689
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,120
And then I get a text from Chris
Daughtry saying, hey, I hear

690
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,000
you're going to rehearse.
I want to come and listen.

691
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,840
I'm like, oh, great.
I try not to have the musicians

692
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,160
or band members listening to my
mix until give me a week, you

693
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,720
know, get comfortable and stuff.
So I'm trying to think of a

694
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:33,320
name.
He did.

695
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,640
He and Lizzie Hale did a Journey
cover and that was the song I

696
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,680
was going to work on.
So I said no, this is my

697
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,760
starting point.
You know, I just, I'm getting

698
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,120
tones.
I'm still, I got to make a lot

699
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,880
of adjustments, but let me get
started.

700
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,000
I got about halfway through the
song and stop, rewound.

701
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:52,080
All right, go back, figure this
out, change this, change that,

702
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,760
play it again, make about a
little bit further and stopped.

703
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,960
I said, all right, I got to make
these couple of changes, then

704
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,680
I'm going to make a pass.
I want your opinion when I'm

705
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,560
done and I make the pass.
And I said, well, what did you

706
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:03,600
think?
And he goes, and this is your

707
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,440
starting point.
I took a step back.

708
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,680
Yeah, and he goes quake most of
my engineers and you're like the

709
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000
fourth or fifth guy.
Don't wind up here.

710
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,840
I'm like, I stepped forward
again and said you, you and I

711
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,880
are going to get along fine.
Wow, that's an endorsement.

712
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,960
Yeah, it was.
And we go to the next show or

713
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,240
that that electric show, it's
Rocklahoma, it's hot outside and

714
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,720
I'm using an avid SXL and
they're known for overheating

715
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,040
and I'm getting heat issues all
day long and comes to the last

716
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,080
song and it says critical heat
issue concert shutting down in

717
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,480
459-5859.
There's a beat of sweat coming

718
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,000
down my 4th and just finding it
off yeah, a minute, a minute

719
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,800
left on that countdown song ends
mute me now.

720
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,280
And I shut down immediately
called Claire Brothers, had them

721
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,560
send another engine out of a
week later we were playing a

722
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,200
show in San Diego.
That sound image was doing so

723
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,440
they replaced the engine.
Now this one says, got a power

724
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,840
issue.
I told the tech, sit at the

725
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,440
desk.
I unplugged one side and said,

726
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,200
is it still on?
He goes, yeah, I plugged it back

727
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,760
in.
Unplug the other side, still on.

728
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,000
Yeah, I said.
I unplugged both.

729
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,200
He goes, now it's off.
I said, all right, goes to the

730
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,680
machine.
Just a weird thing.

731
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,000
And the tour went great.
And one of the last shows we did

732
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,720
was Aftershock.
Aftershock again.

733
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,800
It was ironic because I'd done
Aftershock on a Thursday with

734
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Stone Temple Pilots and then I'm
back there again on Sunday with

735
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,040
Daughtry and you know, I'm
mixing the band this time.

736
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,040
And the manager was there and he
used to be the front house guy

737
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,240
and tour manager back in the
day.

738
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,600
And I come out to the mixed
position and Guns N' Roses was

739
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,480
headlining the mainstage and
Dave Natal's out there and

740
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,360
there's six other young people
standing around.

741
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,000
And I look at the guys from
Brown Note.

742
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,520
I'm like, who are these people?
And he goes, they all want to

743
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,280
know who the old man is.
This makes it Daughtry.

744
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,040
I said oh get ready for this.
And we start the set and after

745
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,280
the first song the manager turns
around and goes Oh my God,

746
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,720
Quake, it's huge.
It's awesome.

747
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,240
Like great job and stuff.
And I hear one of the young kids

748
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,840
go wow, the old man is not
afraid of the PA.

749
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,200
And I kind of look over my
shoulder and the towel's just

750
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,160
laughing and we we get 4 songs
into it and everything's going

751
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,800
great.
And then all of a sudden pop my

752
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,080
surface and my engine both shut
off.

753
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Now I'm going through you're as
bad with consoles as you are

754
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,920
with airplanes, right?
Are you and airplanes?

755
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,240
And I'm like, what the hell
happened?

756
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,360
Because I'm on a UPS and
everything else and like, we

757
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:35,280
haven't had any power.
Are you?

758
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Normally an avid guy.
Yeah, I prefer Avid, you know,

759
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,760
just sound wise.
They sound better to me than a

760
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,320
Digico does.
And you know, they're, it was

761
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,800
designed by Bob Scoville, who
mixed on a gamble.

762
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,560
And I being a staff engineer
from Ultrasound, I was assigned

763
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,800
a gamble and I had the same
console, not the same brand, the

764
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,680
same console for 14 years
straight.

765
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640
I know that thing, you know,
better than anything else in my,

766
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,480
my life.
And you know, I very calmly took

767
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,760
my keys, walked over to the
house, Avid, plugged it in,

768
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,840
grabbed the first show I saw,
which was Rocklahoma.

769
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,320
But none of my plug insurance
loaded.

770
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,320
So I'm starting with no tone on
the PA or anything.

771
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,920
I was just starting with a mix.
And we make it through the set

772
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,360
and the manager comes up, shakes
my hand and he says thank you.

773
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,920
He goes, you're like the fifth
person that makes this band.

774
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,280
And including myself.
If it had been anybody else, we

775
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,400
never would have made it through
the set.

776
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,240
Thank you.
I'm still going to go apologize

777
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:31,640
to Chris because it's never
should happen.

778
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,360
So are you still working for
Daughtry today?

779
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,720
Like do you still?
Nope.

780
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,600
They it was just basically just
can you fill in and get us

781
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,520
through this tour?
They did ask me to stay with him

782
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,080
in 24, but I had already, you
know, Slash was going back out

783
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,000
and, you know, with my history
with him, I'm going to stick

784
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,200
with him.
And ironically, he wound up

785
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,520
giving me a a raise.
Yeah, 24, first time, you know,

786
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,560
since the conspirators started.
But.

787
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Do me a favor and try and keep
your hands off your desk a

788
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,320
little bit because you're you're
pounding the hell I.

789
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Don't know it's.
Like bang, bang, bang in my

790
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,560
head.
How's the microphone?

791
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:10,040
No, no, it's all good.
But yeah, the, you know, I get

792
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,160
on the phones.
You sound guys always make the

793
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,320
sound problems for me, yeah.
Well, we I get on the phone with

794
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,000
Claire brothers talking with two
guys and what it's in.

795
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,120
I've got one of my guys from
sound image on the phone and I

796
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,640
said look, you know, this is
what happened.

797
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,440
And he said well, you know, it's
common knowledge that these

798
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Abbots have an issue.
I said hold on before we go any

799
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,640
further.
I said I've got 3 really good

800
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,320
friends.
One's Bob Scoville.

801
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,400
He's the guy that came up with
that platform now because he

802
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640
did, Abbott gave him both of his
setups.

803
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,000
So he travels with a redundant
setup.

804
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,560
But I said I've got two other
friends, Greg Price who's mixing

805
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,840
Metallica and Derek
Featherstone, who does dead and

806
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,920
company and John Mayer and many
and many others.

807
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,360
And I said they don't carry
redundant setup.

808
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680
What's the difference?
So they're not clear brothers.

809
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,880
Do you guys buy a company?
You put the stuff into into

810
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,400
inventory, you don't check it
out, you don't update it.

811
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,680
And if there's a, if this
engine's got an issue, why is it

812
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,240
going out the door and not being
repaired?

813
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,280
I'm prepping a tour for Slash on
December 7th in 23.

814
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,440
I want you and, and this other
kid that had come to repair my

815
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,920
console before from latest to
come out to San Diego.

816
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Sit down there with me with my
two guys from from sound Image

817
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,400
and they were there and they
also brought a guy from Abbott

818
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,800
in and we had a little
discussion.

819
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,040
I started working on some stuff.
I had a couple of files that I

820
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,240
could play back and within the
first two hours I found like 8

821
00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:36,920
issues.
Now they're all little things

822
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,000
and one of the guys from Sound
Images, guy Matt, he's like

823
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,800
they're boffin.
You know the guy you call, hey,

824
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,880
my console won't turn out.
He's like, I don't know what it

825
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,640
is about Quake, but he touches
stuff and it just, he breaks it.

826
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,720
I said no, I don't break it.
I find the problems.

827
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,480
I want to find him now because
when I'm, if I'm in Singapore, I

828
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,040
don't want my console to die,
you know, because I'm not going

829
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,040
to get another one.
And by the way, if my console

830
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,360
dies in Singapore, I'm pulling
up to the first loading dock.

831
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,200
I see could be a high school,
could be, you know, shopping

832
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,640
mall.
I'm going to drop your stuff off

833
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,960
and I'll never use you guys
again.

834
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,560
So make sure my stuff works.
Funny enough that we went

835
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,200
through that whole tour and it
worked.

836
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,240
Florida State we did have we did
carry 1 backup engine.

837
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,120
The monitor guy was using the
same setup and he had to use it

838
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,840
one day.
We're had a weird power issue in

839
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Malaysia and but other than that
it worked fine and that I carry

840
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,840
the same set up through the
summer with slashes Blues ball.

841
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:43,120
But just before we leave on that
tour in 24, 23 in December, my

842
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,880
wife and I went and got the
COVID shot and we got a flu

843
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,720
vaccination because in 24, a lot
of Latin American companies were

844
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:53,260
or countries were still
requiring an up to date COVID

845
00:43:53,260 --> 00:43:55,840
shot.
My doctor said I'd had COVID 3

846
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,960
times at that point.
I had had three shots, but

847
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,480
they'd all been Johnson and
Johnson.

848
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,560
So this time he wants me to get
the new COVID shot.

849
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,880
So I got the new COVID shot.
And back in 2015, they'd noticed

850
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,280
I was losing about a gram a day
of protein in my urine.

851
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,800
Pretty common if you're a
diabetic.

852
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,760
But I didn't get diagnosed as a
diabetic until 22.

853
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,760
They just trotted off the fact
that, you know, I was just shy

854
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,960
of 300 lbs and a sober drug
addict.

855
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,560
Yeah.
You know, that's, that's you.

856
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:27,320
Don't worry about it.
Well, October 23, one gram a day

857
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,120
still and January I'm a six
grand.

858
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,600
The doctor says you have a thing
called nephrotic syndrome.

859
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,480
Watch your salt and sleep with
your feet up if you start

860
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,960
swelling.
And when you get home we're

861
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,040
going to do some more tests.
So I get out on the road and

862
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:50,080
it's going OK.
We get into the UK and we had a

863
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:56,040
day off in Manchester and I go
out to eat lunch and come back.

864
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,160
I fell asleep at the desk in my
hotel room and woke up.

865
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,400
Oh my gosh, it's 5:00.
I got to do my day sheets and I

866
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,240
go to stand up and my feet, my
legs, my abdomen, my hands, my

867
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:09,400
eyes were all swollen.
Like what on earth?

868
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,960
There was a movie that it was
out.

869
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,440
It was a horror movie when I was
a kid.

870
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,160
The kid woke up and his hands,
the line from Pink Floyd and my

871
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,920
hands were like 2 big balloons
and that's all I could think of

872
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,120
was that and it was about that
movie and I'm like what the heck

873
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,920
is this?
So the next day try to get a

874
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,600
doctor.
No luck.

875
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Next day we go into Dublin and
my or I'm sorry, Scotland and

876
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,920
my, the assistant, you know,
couldn't get a doctor there.

877
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,680
My assistant comes walking in
just after I'd open doors,

878
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,080
clutch in his belly, collapses
in the runner's car.

879
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,720
Off to the hospital he goes.
I show up at the hospital at

880
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,720
2:30 or 12:30 in the morning
after we loaded out and he still

881
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,080
hadn't seen a doctor yet.
But he finally gets looked at

882
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,800
and he had an issue with his
prostate.

883
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,080
It's swollen and it backed up
poison into his one kidney.

884
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,880
Didn't know he had one kidney
and so he had a kidney issue.

885
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:04,320
Wait a minute, I got a kidney
issue.

886
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,960
He's got a kidney issue.
Now.

887
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,280
We go through that tour.
I had a young lady join us over

888
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,200
to take his place over in
Germany and she managed to get a

889
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
doctor to see me in Berlin.
The doctor said, well, you have

890
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,160
all this wrong with you.
You've got high blood pressure

891
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,440
and it's, you know, cholesterol
and you're taking a lot of

892
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,600
medication.
I don't want to add to that.

893
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Keep sleeping your feet up,
drink a lot of fluid and as soon

894
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,280
as you get home, go immediately
to a doctor.

895
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:35,360
So made it through that tour.
Got home, call up my doctor.

896
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,760
He, he was off, but they sent me
into a nurse practitioner and

897
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,720
he's on the phone with him and
his kids something tournament

898
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,000
that he was at and he's like
going to order this test, this

899
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,640
test, this test, this test.
He's got nephrotic syndrome.

900
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,280
I'm afraid there's something
else that's happened.

901
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,400
So they copy all this to the
nephrology department,

902
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,840
Nephrology, by the way, of your
kidneys at the University of

903
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,840
Rochester.
And I go in for an ultrasound of

904
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,880
my legs to make sure I don't
have clots or anything.

905
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:09,440
And I get a blood work done and
they come back and I'm now at 7

906
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,600
1/2 grams of protein loss.
And I get a call from the

907
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,040
nephrology department.
Hi, I'm Doctor Lee, you're

908
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,080
coming in to see me.
And I went in to see her.

909
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,320
She goes, we're ordering an
emergency biopsy of your kidney.

910
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:31,400
I'm like OK so I went in on a
Monday for a biopsy Wednesday

911
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,200
had a root canal done Friday had
to go in for another MRI for my

912
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,520
kidneys and liver and I passed
out during the MRI.

913
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,280
Second time I passed out my
life.

914
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,720
And so they have to keep you in
the hospital for a while.

915
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,160
It is the same network of
hospitals that University of

916
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,720
Rochester, only this is
Highland.

917
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,440
It's about a mile away from U of
R's main place called Strong.

918
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:59,000
And my doctor drives over with
four students to sit down with

919
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,800
me.
My wife says sitting in the room

920
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,840
and she says, so we've got the
preliminary back from your

921
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,520
biopsy.
You have what is called FSGS,

922
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,400
focal segmented
glomerosclerosis.

923
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,080
Basically Glomerol looks like a
plume on a marching helmet from

924
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,760
a marching band.
And she goes, that's the part

925
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,240
that grabs the protein, puts it
back into your bloodstream, go

926
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:24,360
make bone, make, you know, hair,
etcetera, etcetera.

927
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,440
She goes, you should have had 25
in the biopsy.

928
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,240
You had two.
What has happened?

929
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,200
You know, it's something has
killed your, that part of your

930
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,680
kidney.
There is no cure and you're not

931
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,560
going to recover from this.
OK, thank you.

932
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,560
Thanks, Doc.
Yeah.

933
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,160
Now, meanwhile, my wife here's
your bill.

934
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,000
Yeah, my wife's going.
Wait a minute.

935
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,280
And then the doctor's like Mr.
Mark.

936
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,680
You're very calm.
Well, ma'am, there's no polite

937
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,120
way of putting it, but I don't
cry over spilled milk.

938
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,800
I can't change what's got me
here.

939
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,680
All I can do is play the cards
I'm dealt.

940
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,000
And you're.
We're going to formulate a plan.

941
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,360
I'm going to follow that plan.
And by the way, I've got 7 days

942
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,040
before I leave on my next door,
so we got to get this plan

943
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,640
rolling.
And, you know, and, and to the

944
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,600
students and to the doctor, I
said, please excuse the

945
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,680
vernacular, but I'm the kind of
person who's going to look at

946
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,680
problems square in the eye and
say, fuck you, I'm going to win.

947
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,720
Yeah.
So we, they put me on some high

948
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:30,560
doses of steroids and I left.
And, you know, here's a ton of

949
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,560
dietary restrictions.
I was limited to 1400 milligrams

950
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,720
of sodium a day.
To put that in perspective, the

951
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,160
RDA says that you should have
2800 milligrams.

952
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880
The average American consume
somewhere in the neighborhood of

953
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,040
7000 to 8000 milligrams of
sodium.

954
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,080
You don't realize how much
sodium is in a class of milk

955
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,880
slice of bread it's in and it
all adds up.

956
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,480
So I had to be very careful and
things went great.

957
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:03,240
I dropped I was ��250 when I went
in to have my MRI done.

958
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,400
Within a about a month or so I
was down to 200 lbs.

959
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,160
Actually we're at a casino in
California. 50 lbs.

960
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,600
In a month.
In a month, not the right way,

961
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,800
by the way, and I treated myself
to a stake that night and things

962
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,800
are going very well.
Until we had a show in Nebraska

963
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,040
and at the end of the show we
found out that Slashes lost one

964
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,680
of the members of his family.
So we had to take a break.

965
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,120
And during that break, I had to
reschedule the tour, re move,

966
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,120
you know, go on the truck three
times, get his wet clothes out,

967
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,360
you know.
Oh, my God, We're starting in

968
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,720
Canada.
Well, we can't take the merch.

969
00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:40,920
Got to go get that out of the
truck.

970
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,080
And my stretch level went from
its normal ridiculous level to

971
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,360
you can't even see it anymore.
Yeah.

972
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,680
And then we went into a, a whole
series of dates, played

973
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,520
Lewiston, NY, a place called Art
Park.

974
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,640
The production company showed up
4 hours and 45 minutes late.

975
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,440
He had 15 more minutes before I
was going to call the show.

976
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,840
We went into a show in New York
City where a storm hit just

977
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,760
before we're playing Pier 17.
Storm hit just before.

978
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,840
Had to, you know, not load the
audience in wait, load the

979
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,720
audience and talk to every band.
You're cutting 10 minutes.

980
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:16,720
You're cutting 10 minutes.
You're cut.

981
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,960
We're cutting 1/2 hour.
What's?

982
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,800
Your role at this point, you're
production.

983
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,560
Manager and front house guy for
Slash and we're on what's what

984
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,640
was called the Serpent Tour.
It was a Blues tour, and I had

985
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,160
nine different opening acts
throughout the whole tour.

986
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:36,840
But the Bills were incredible.
I mean, the first one was, oh,

987
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:45,560
good gosh, Eric, GAIL, Samantha,
Fish, Warren and then Slash and

988
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,360
just, you know, talk about, you
know, guitar players for days.

989
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Holy cow.
And then Eric left and we got

990
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Kev, MO and then Samantha left
and I forget the young lady, we

991
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,440
replaced her, but you know, just
a revolving door and stuff.

992
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,960
But you know, here again after
that, all of a sudden I'm

993
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,200
starting to swell up again.
And the lighting guy I was with

994
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120
had some family that worked with
the Music Health Alliance.

995
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,880
And they set up for a doctor to
talk to me when I was in

996
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,400
Nashville.
And two folks came out.

997
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,400
I allowed him to look at all my
records and stuff.

998
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,840
And they said, well, you know,
you're obviously swallowing

999
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,600
again.
It doesn't look like the water

1000
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,600
pill they're giving you is
working.

1001
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,080
You're going to need to change
that.

1002
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,400
And 1 was an older doctor and he
said, look, I'm retiring in the

1003
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,720
fall.
And he goes, I'm going to give

1004
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:36,160
you a bunch of tests to get, he
goes, there's this could be

1005
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,920
genetic, this could be caused by
something you've caught or I'll

1006
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,000
get to the last one last.
So he gave me all these tests to

1007
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,640
go to see a an immunologist
about, about infectious

1008
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,360
diseases.
There's like 7 or 8 diseases I

1009
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,720
have to be tested for.
He also said get tested for

1010
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:57,400
lupus, get tested for, you know,
arthritis, all the autoimmune

1011
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,200
diseases.
And he said, and you got to get

1012
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,640
a genetic test.
Well, to get a genetic test for

1013
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,120
something like this takes a
little over 2 years.

1014
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:13,880
Now it's been a year, just what
it is now, I ironically, I'm in

1015
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,840
a, in a test group for a
different reason.

1016
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,680
And they did, they looked for
one specific gene that happened

1017
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,440
in 15 minutes.
Why can't you just extrapolate

1018
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,360
that and kind of let's take a
look at the whole thing.

1019
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:29,640
But he goes, if we can come up
with what the underlying causes,

1020
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,160
and this is the same thing my
team at U of R said we can, you

1021
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,120
can get a kidney transplant or a
graft, but if not, whatever's

1022
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,040
killing that part of your kidney
is just going to keep doing it.

1023
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,680
So it's just going to be a
vicious cycle and why I put you

1024
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,760
through all that surgery.
I said OK, cool.

1025
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,320
So we finished that tour and I
get home and I'm in bad shape.

1026
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,040
And in September, 3 days before
our anniversary, I was

1027
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,480
hospitalized on our anniversary.
What year is that?

1028
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,960
This was last year, September
24.

1029
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:04,000
Wow.
And the at this point, I'm at 12

1030
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,440
grams of protein loss a day.
And they said the other side of

1031
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,480
your kidney function has dropped
drastically.

1032
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,200
Before that they were like going
you, you could be like a test

1033
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,400
case because you're that part of
your kidneys work great.

1034
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,360
Well, at this point, they're now
saying, if we don't get this

1035
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:21,080
under control in, in three to
four days, we're talking

1036
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,520
dialysis.
And I'm like, the last thing I

1037
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,360
want is a hole in my neck.
And I still had stuff booked for

1038
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:29,920
the rest of the year.
I had a bunch of dates with

1039
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:35,800
Stone Temple Pilots and I had a,
an event over in London for the

1040
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,040
Sky Arts Music Awards where
Slash is going to play.

1041
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,440
And Brian Johnson was they were
going to do Killing Floor with

1042
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,880
his, his Blues band over there.
Brian sang that song on the, on

1043
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:51,080
the album and the people putting
the show on the, the recording,

1044
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,360
people said, hey, Quake's going
to be there.

1045
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,280
Just have him mix the music.
So I had a little side deal cut

1046
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,160
to do all that as well.
And our anniversary comes around

1047
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,440
and my wife says, well, I'm
going to get out of here, you

1048
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,000
know, go get some stuff done.
And I'm like, yeah, thanks.

1049
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,000
There's nothing you can do
except sit there and stare at

1050
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,720
somebody.
And that kind of gets a little

1051
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,520
nerve wracking when, yeah, isn't
going to change how I am.

1052
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,800
They came in right after that.
And I never told my wife this

1053
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,720
until June when she read it on a
piece of paper because I didn't

1054
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,240
want anybody else to find out.
They said, Mr. Mark, you're

1055
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,920
stage 4, You've got 24 to 36
months to live.

1056
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,360
I'm like, no, yeah, no.
I got to get new doctors.

1057
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,880
All I keep doing is giving me
bad news.

1058
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,560
But a little bit later I get a
text from the young lady over in

1059
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,960
Germany and she goes, hey, happy
anniversary.

1060
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,000
And by the way, get ready.
I'm like, get ready, What are

1061
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,440
you talking about?
Well, over the course of the

1062
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:50,400
next three hours, I got over 100
texts, emails, WhatsApp

1063
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,200
messages, WhatsApp videos from
over 100 different people in the

1064
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,680
music industry from around the
world, all saying what an

1065
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,200
important person I was to their
careers, what I meant to them,

1066
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,360
what working with them, how what
they've learned from me and that

1067
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,520
they support me 100%.
Keep strong.

1068
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,280
You're going to beat this now.
That was easily the most

1069
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,960
humbling thing I've ever had
happened in my life.

1070
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:20,800
And it ended with a 2 hour phone
call with Slash where I admitted

1071
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,960
to him what was going on.
He was one of the only people

1072
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,880
that knew we're that close to
friends that, you know, I knew I

1073
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,920
could trust him not to go
blabbing it out to anybody else.

1074
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:37,120
But when I left the hospital a
week later, I'm happy to say I

1075
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,080
walked out.
I was very weak.

1076
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,400
I'd started losing weight again.
They'd started me on a different

1077
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,440
medication and they, you know, I
kept fighting.

1078
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,840
I went back doing a a couple of
things in November.

1079
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,840
They're the local sound company
I work for here in Rochester.

1080
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,960
They do an event in Buffalo
called the World's Largest

1081
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,920
Disco.
It is the dumbest lighting event

1082
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:02,880
you've ever seen in your life.
Takes over the entire Buffalo

1083
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:08,760
Convention Center, and it takes
just shy two weeks to set it up.

1084
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,200
And it happens right around
Thanksgiving.

1085
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Well, I'm so weak and I've
dropped down.

1086
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,840
At that point I was 180 lbs and
a friend of mine came to visit

1087
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,480
me and he took a picture with me
and I saw him a few weeks ago

1088
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040
and he goes quick.
When we took that picture, I was

1089
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,600
convinced I was never going to
see you again.

1090
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Yeah, I was kind of leaning that
way too, because I felt

1091
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,640
terrible.
I had to sit down quite often.

1092
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,400
I'd realize that I don't have
the strength anymore.

1093
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,600
I had, I did a few weeks at a
place called Del Lago, a casino

1094
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,440
filling in for a friend of mine
is the audio guy.

1095
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,800
Ironically, that first weekend
Daughtry comes in and the guy

1096
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,680
that had taken my places, tour
manager and production manager,

1097
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,720
they went from a guy named Quake
to a guy named Sheep.

1098
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,920
At least we kept up with people
with good nicknames.

1099
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,120
He had, he had a new monitor guy
who was a friend of mine, front

1100
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:00,760
house guy I'd never met before
and stuff.

1101
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,640
And they're loading out and, you
know, sheep is trying to bring

1102
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,080
the wardrobe cases down.
They were the last things to go

1103
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:08,920
into their truck.
And he's trying to bring him

1104
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,280
down from the third floor and
the elevator brakes.

1105
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,560
And it took them a good 45
minutes to get him out of that

1106
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,680
elevator.
And at one point, the rest of

1107
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,880
the crew went, well, quakes
here.

1108
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,320
We'll just have him pack a bag.
We got to pass by his house.

1109
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:28,320
And I'm like, shut up.
But finish that January saw my

1110
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,680
doctor again.
I was at 6 grams of protein

1111
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,320
loss.
She's like, okay, whatever

1112
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,200
you're doing, keep.
That's an improvement.

1113
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:42,320
Down to 170 lbs and April I was
I was her last patient.

1114
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:47,040
She she moved to UC Irvine, is
now the head of medicine at UC

1115
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,920
Irvine.
And at this point too, I should

1116
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,600
also qualify this that I'm now a
case study at the University of

1117
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,280
Rochester, UC Irvine and
Vanderbilt.

1118
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,520
They're all three places are
kind of following by the way,

1119
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,520
you never want to have somebody
go by the way, you're a case

1120
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,560
study.
But still I'm not feeling too

1121
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,120
bad And she's going you're at 4
1/2 grams.

1122
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,160
You're keep going, keep like
this.

1123
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,760
And I'm like, well, that's
awesome.

1124
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,800
So she sorry, we just had a
picture.

1125
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,280
No problem.
Ironically, it's the same

1126
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,960
picture of my parents.
It's fallen off the wall three

1127
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,560
times, but the it's got.
To be a sign.

1128
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,840
Yeah, yeah, Mom and Dad, what
did I do?

1129
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,880
But they, I, I, I was then moved
to the nephrotic team, that

1130
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,920
nephrology team I saw in the
hospital.

1131
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,640
And the late one young lady is
an expert of what I have.

1132
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,280
And in April, my doctor had
talked to me and then I got an

1133
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,040
e-mail from the other doctor.
There's a new medication that

1134
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,760
was coming out.
They had applied for me to be on

1135
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,520
the test program.
It was specifically designed for

1136
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,320
people with that disease.
And they had to get approval

1137
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,800
from them and approval from my
insurance.

1138
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,960
While in July, I go in to see my
new nephrology team.

1139
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,840
She's like, you're 2 grams of
protein loss.

1140
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,240
You no longer have nephrotic
syndrome.

1141
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,800
You still have FSGS, but you're
stage 2.

1142
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,000
And I said, so with that, has my
prognosis changed?

1143
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,800
Well, you know, Tim, you could,
you know, wake up tomorrow

1144
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,360
morning.
I say stop with the you could

1145
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,160
fall into the middle of the road
and get hit by a car or you

1146
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,760
could fall out of your bed.
You know what I'm talking about.

1147
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,800
She goes with the attitude you
have and the progress you've

1148
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,920
made.
I can see you being in your mid

1149
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,840
70s.
I'm 64 right now.

1150
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,280
I'll take that.
That's a heck of a lot better.

1151
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,520
Congratulations.
That's incredible.

1152
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,520
But I was down to ��150 and to
lose 100 lbs in that fast a time

1153
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,720
I don't recommend it.
Everybody's like you look great

1154
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,560
man but except for my
nephrologist who went you look

1155
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:44,680
terrible.
I'm like.

1156
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,200
What I'm guessing your knees and
stuff felt better and hips and

1157
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,600
all of those things that hurt
when you're a little heavier.

1158
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,600
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
My back especially, you know,

1159
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,440
because one of the things you
learn is, you know, how much

1160
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,440
you're sticking out the front
affects your back.

1161
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,080
But the, you know, she says keep
it up.

1162
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,120
And you know, I'll be very frank
that it took a while for me to

1163
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,520
learn and a lot of soul
searching that in this case,

1164
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,760
winning isn't being cured with
of this.

1165
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,360
Winning is learning how to live
with it.

1166
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,400
Now this whole time I'm still
working.

1167
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,240
I, you know, I went off, I did a
bunch of stuff for local

1168
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,840
college, went back with that
sound company, did the Cornell

1169
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,720
graduation.
Did you do the thing in London?

1170
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,840
No, I wound up not.
I had another friend of mine

1171
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,920
filled in for very fortunately,
Slash still paid me as though I

1172
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,240
went, wow, That was very kind
of.

1173
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,160
Yeah, that is, that is, you
know, but yeah.

1174
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,600
And I've been working the whole
time.

1175
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,880
And I went to see the same
doctor two weeks ago, 3 weeks

1176
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,720
ago now.
Sorry.

1177
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,640
And she said, well, you're, you
were two grams in July.

1178
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,520
You're 1.7g.
You know, you're doing great.

1179
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,640
You put ��20 back on.
I'm 170 now.

1180
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,840
She goes, you look better.
Your face looks fuller.

1181
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,920
I said I feel, I feel good, you
know, really good.

1182
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,440
You know, better than I have in
a long time.

1183
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,120
And she goes, yeah, that's
great.

1184
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:11,200
And, you know, keep it up.
By the way, that drug, we

1185
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,360
finally got approved by your
insurance company.

1186
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,800
But in the meantime, the FDA has
cleared it.

1187
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,880
So in January 10th, you're going
to start taking this new

1188
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,680
medication that will replace one
of your blood pressure meds and

1189
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,600
is specifically targeted for
FSGS.

1190
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,840
You'll be one of the first
people in the world to get it.

1191
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,400
And I'm like, wow, that's cool.
You know, I had told them when I

1192
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,640
first got diagnosed with this
and I was in the hospital, I

1193
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,280
said, look, if there's anything
weird you want to try, you know,

1194
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,160
February they had me do 2 rounds
of chemo, just the thing called

1195
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,800
rituximab.
It's very mild chemo.

1196
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,760
And I said, but if there's stuff
that you want to try, it may not

1197
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,360
save me, but I can give you
data.

1198
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,800
And they're like, that's so
cool.

1199
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,640
But yeah, it's, I feel good.
Yeah, good.

1200
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,400
I, I pulled another cord that
I'm not allowed to talk about

1201
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,960
until mid November because they
haven't told the other guys that

1202
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,160
I'm replacing.
But yeah, but it's, you know,

1203
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,240
it'll be nice.
I'll be very busy next year.

1204
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,080
And I've been working for that
regional sound company again,

1205
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,400
prepping his world's largest
disco for this year.

1206
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,200
So that's wild.
Yeah.

1207
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,720
Which it's funny because, you
know, you know me as a sound

1208
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,640
guy.
And ironically, I'm working for

1209
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,760
this guy and I'm repairing Licos
and Fernell's and.

1210
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,400
You know, that's interesting.
Putting bulbs in the power cans

1211
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,520
and such.
And you know, that takes me back

1212
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,080
to, you know, I was telling one
of the guys I work with, I said,

1213
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,800
you know, the last time I pulled
Lico apart, he goes, no, I said

1214
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,720
I was 19 years or 18 years old.
I was in high school.

1215
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,880
I ran the stage at my school.
That's wild, I said.

1216
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,240
So it's kind of weird that the
whole things coming full circle.

1217
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,960
How many years later?
But you're also doing stuff with

1218
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,720
with video W as well, right?
Like.

1219
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,000
Yeah, Don Ladico, our common
friend I'd love Donnie, by the

1220
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,800
way, was the guy that pulled me
into the Red Alert campaign.

1221
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,400
Yeah, yeah, I remember that.
Being one of the few sound guys

1222
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,720
there with a bunch of lighting
people and he also he made the

1223
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,200
comment to Brad.
He goes by the way, this guy can

1224
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,880
talk.
Just let him go, you know.

1225
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,640
So I wound up doing Oh my God, I
never.

1226
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:11,960
Noticed that about you, you
know.

1227
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,600
So I did all these podcasts and
stuff and, you know, appearances

1228
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,720
on TV stations and radio
stations and stuff.

1229
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,640
But yeah, Don had been talking
to me for a couple of years

1230
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,280
about trying to help him out,
you know, get video W stepping

1231
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,240
up in there in the touring game
because they do some touring.

1232
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,960
They just finished or straight
stadium tour doing lighting a

1233
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,560
video for that.
And they they if you've ever

1234
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,960
done Buffalo chip at Sturgis,
they're the company that does

1235
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,880
that festival, which is always,
you know, I've always had good

1236
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,800
experiences with them there.
And I said, you know, he, he

1237
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,920
knew I, I needed some extra work
and, and said, you know, you're

1238
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,240
not booking stuff.
All, all we need you to do is

1239
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,880
introduce us around, open doors,
shake hands, you know, got a

1240
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,240
stack of business cards, you
know, and yeah, so I started

1241
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,920
with them in August and it's
been an interesting experience.

1242
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,480
I got to fly out to Video West
in September and check out their

1243
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,600
operation in Phoenix and was
extremely impressed with the

1244
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:18,440
organization the how they how
they've got their warehouses set

1245
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:22,240
up, looking through just in
their audio portion, how their

1246
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,600
stuff is packaged and stuff.
And video W, as you may or may

1247
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,040
not know, in May was acquired by
on.

1248
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,520
Service on services.
So now they're part of this big

1249
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,560
conglomeration.
As of January, we'll be

1250
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:37,360
rebranding as on Services.
Oh, I didn't know that part.

1251
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,400
Yeah, Yeah, right.
Right now we're video W powered

1252
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,400
by ON services, but we will be
rebranded as ON services, which

1253
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,040
gives us an access to a whole
lot more equipment especially

1254
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,520
well the.
Other thing is I think it's

1255
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,840
always been confusing and Donnie
and I have had that talk so many

1256
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,080
times, you know, because video W
people think of you as a video

1257
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,680
company, yet they're a great
lighting company and a pretty

1258
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,480
good audio company.
So, you know, it, it I think

1259
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,960
held them back in a sense.
Not that Video W was a bad name,

1260
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,920
but when you're trying to brand
a lighting company or build a

1261
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,400
lighting company, it does hold
you back a little bit.

1262
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,360
And we've always talked about
that, yeah.

1263
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,720
And that's, that's kind of quite
frankly, that's kind of what I'm

1264
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,720
running into is people like,
well, wait a minute, aren't they

1265
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,360
a, you know, video company or
don't they just do corporate

1266
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,440
stuff?
I'm like, no, no, they do a

1267
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,560
little bit of everything.
And, and the owners from on

1268
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,440
services are very interested in
stepping up the touring game,

1269
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,040
you know, because, and it's
funny because after I flew out

1270
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,200
in September to go how to hang
out with Donnie, meet everybody

1271
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,680
in the office, the only person
that wasn't there was Jack, the

1272
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:45,480
owner.
And about two weeks later, he

1273
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,360
sends me an e-mail.
He goes, hey, I've got a place

1274
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,560
up in 40 or that's my summer
home and I'm coming to Rochester

1275
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:54,440
to play a golf tournament.
I'd like to sit down for

1276
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,120
breakfast with you, get a chance
to meet you, talk to you.

1277
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,720
And he says, and ironically.
Listen to you.

1278
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, as as as
cases.

1279
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,000
And he said, And the following
day the owner from on services

1280
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,440
is flying in and I would like
him to meet you as well.

1281
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,360
And so I sat down for breakfast
with him and we had a great

1282
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,160
conversation and stuff.
I like their philosophy.

1283
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,440
They don't want to be PRG.
They don't want to be Clare

1284
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,040
Brothers.
They don't want to be solo tech.

1285
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,400
They wanted their own niche.
They want to do 10 tours a year

1286
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,600
but doing better than anybody
else, which come from

1287
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,880
ultrasound.
That was Doctor Don Pearson.

1288
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,920
And to this day still Derek
Featherstone's whole philosophy.

1289
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:37,600
We don't want to take over the
world.

1290
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,320
We just want our corner and we
want to do it better than

1291
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,320
anybody else.
Don Pearson once said to me, he

1292
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,360
goes, settle on your price and
just do it better than anybody

1293
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:46,160
else.
OK.

1294
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,000
Fair quality, not quantity,
Right.

1295
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,080
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.

1296
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,640
And you know, and so all that's
good.

1297
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,560
And then the next day I met with
Brent, the owner of on Services

1298
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,480
and we're talking and I said,
well, let me kind of back up.

1299
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,640
Why do companies want a tour?
And he goes, what's a great

1300
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,960
question?
I said, well, you got this

1301
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,720
corporate show, you got all the
gear slotted for two months from

1302
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,760
now and you're going to make X
amount of dollars off of that.

1303
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,520
Now, yes, when you go out on
tour, you're not going to make

1304
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,200
that big lump.
It's going to be a smaller lump,

1305
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,279
but you're going to get it for
seven weeks, weeks in 10 weeks.

1306
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:23,479
And all you got to do is make
sure it works, make sure that

1307
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,520
there's somebody on the other
end of the phone and make sure

1308
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,520
the people are out there with
the gear are well trained.

1309
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,120
And he's, like I said, yeah, you
buy all this equipment, make it

1310
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,000
work for you.
And which, you know, one of the

1311
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,840
main things I stressed with them
is training.

1312
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,279
You know, we got to do some
training stuff and it's it's got

1313
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,800
to be company wide.
I know Video W is holding a

1314
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,840
seminar in November.
Video West has a really good

1315
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,279
compliment of L Acoustics gear.
So they're bringing in some

1316
01:08:54,279 --> 01:08:57,040
folks from L Acoustics and
they're doing 3 day training on

1317
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,680
that equipment.
I said now the next step is we

1318
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,319
got to buy some SMART rates
measurement systems and we got

1319
01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:05,520
you got a large compliment of
Meyer.

1320
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So we're going to next training
we do.

1321
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,279
I want to do 2 days with SMART
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1322
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:15,640
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know, if you've got all your

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Consoles What's?
What's your line array of

1342
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,520
choice?
I prefer Meyer Panther, you

1343
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,680
know, coming from ultrasound.
And I'll be very frank, when I

1344
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,920
started with ultrasound I did
not like Meyer stuff.

1345
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,600
It was the days of the MSL
threes and they got just too

1346
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,800
brittle sounding and it wasn't
beefy.

1347
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,160
And the 1st first show I ever
used ultrasound for, I plugged,

1348
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,960
you know, they brought in a rig
for total wet Sprocket and, you

1349
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:49,160
know, not the biggest rock band
in the world as far as rock

1350
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,000
goes.
And I, they brought a gamble in

1351
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,440
for me to use and I'm like, kind
of like, I love the gamble.

1352
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,360
And he, I turned the system on a
tune.

1353
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,600
I went, hey, wait a minute.
This isn't, they said don't ask,

1354
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,320
but this is you don't ask, but
it's rock.

1355
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,320
Yeah.
And they're like, right while I

1356
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,480
start to work with him, I find
out that First off, none of

1357
01:11:09,480 --> 01:11:12,960
their amps had on off switches.
He plugged them in, turn them

1358
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,960
on, and then there was an X on
top of each amp rack.

1359
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,440
And the tech would jump on the
amp rack and stomp on him and it

1360
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,880
would kick start all the relays
to turn because the one thing

1361
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,000
that failed in a Crest amp was
the relay with the switch.

1362
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,040
So they got rid of that.
He also had Don Pearson built

1363
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,640
these line drivers to drive the
PA more because most people

1364
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,720
weren't driving it hard enough.
And he cut the tweeters out of

1365
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,520
it so it didn't sound like a
bright, brittle thing.

1366
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,920
And then, you know, moved into
MSL fours and MSL 10s, you know,

1367
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,960
got to do stadium tours for Dave
Matthews as a systems engineer

1368
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,640
in front of house tech on that.
And that's, you know, I really

1369
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,720
started to like it.
And then when Meyer, Metallica,

1370
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,960
Metallica changed Meyer a bit.
Too.

1371
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,280
I would yeah, yeah.
And and it's it's funny because

1372
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,120
a.
Few years back I was doing

1373
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,200
Boston Calling for the company
Rainbow out of the Northeast,

1374
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,760
New England Audio Tech and Scott
to Chuck, who now works for

1375
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:11,520
ultrasound, by the way.
And I'm on the third stage.

1376
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,760
I was, hey, what are you doing
next week?

1377
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,800
Can you fill in out?
Sure, no problem.

1378
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,400
Well, Ralph Mastrangelo was
there and Ralph had just left

1379
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:22,160
the ER and he he was there
visiting Greg Price's mixing

1380
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,400
tool and he was there to visit
Craig and talk to him and stuff.

1381
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,840
And he finds out I'm there.
So he comes over and he's

1382
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,480
talking to me.
And what do you think of this

1383
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,600
company?
I said it's a good company.

1384
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,200
I said the owner's a little
weird, but yeah, what owner of a

1385
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,000
production company isn't, you
know, especially it's be weird

1386
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,320
to get into it, right?
Yeah.

1387
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,080
What makes you think that you,
you know, oh, let's.

1388
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:45,320
Do 20 hour days 8.
Days a week, Yeah, it's fun.

1389
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:47,560
Yeah, exactly.
But.

1390
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,120
He goes, yeah, I'm kind.
Of looking that kind of client,

1391
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,840
they need somebody to service
their miring.

1392
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,320
And I kind of looked at them and
I'm like, you're an idiot.

1393
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,760
He's like what?
I said, you're an idiot.

1394
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,240
And he's like, what do you mean?
I said you're the client you're

1395
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,040
talking about is based out of
San Francisco.

1396
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,720
Where did you meet me?
Anyone?

1397
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,200
I'm an idiot.
He called Derek Featherstone

1398
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,840
from Ultrasound.
Ultrasound started taking the

1399
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:15,240
Metallica thing and right at
that time Yamaha bought out Pro

1400
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,200
Media, which was Pro media
ultrasound at the time, and they

1401
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,520
didn't want to keep the live
part.

1402
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,280
So Derek had gone to the owners
and said you got to give me a

1403
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,040
year to come up with the money.
Well, between he and Ralph and a

1404
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,160
couple of management companies,
they came up with the money and

1405
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:33,120
they bought Ultrasound and it
went from when Derek first

1406
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,200
initially bought the place,
there was 10 employees.

1407
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:39,160
Now they're over 70 and their
client list is expanded

1408
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,960
drastically.
Great, great news for them.

1409
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,600
And they're like the one company
that hasn't sold to Claire yet.

1410
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,160
Correct.
Yeah, well, one yeah, them solo

1411
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:53,120
tech and PRG, you know.
But yeah, it's but yeah, it's

1412
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,200
been, you know, good to good to
watch the girl for them.

1413
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,080
And and funny enough, in 2012
when I took slashes tour with

1414
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,000
the conspirators, Derek could
call me up and goes why you get

1415
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,440
the tour to Maryland sound.
He won't even let me bid on and

1416
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,040
I sent him the quote and he
goes, why I can.

1417
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,520
Oh no, I can't.
It was a ridiculously low bid.

1418
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,400
And I found out from Bob
Goldstein.

1419
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:17,080
He said, well, we had this guy
pooched our force three days

1420
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:20,160
before you had your conversation
with him and he's our head of

1421
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,120
touring sales.
He said what put the stuff out

1422
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,440
with Quake and Toby Francis and
it'll be at every festival in

1423
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:28,320
the world and you'll get tours
office in Maryland Sound got 7

1424
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,400
tours from but you know, and we
didn't talk for a very long

1425
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,080
time.
And then a few years back I had

1426
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,640
I used to have a tech over there
by name of Sharuki, Chris

1427
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,960
Sharuki.
And he called me just before the

1428
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:44,480
last Goo Goo Dolls tour.
I did.

1429
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,440
And he said Quakester, I got
some bad news.

1430
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,680
Now, Chris had been with me at
this point for 10 years.

1431
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,840
And I said, what's the bad news?
He goes, I can't do the tour.

1432
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,680
I said, what's up?
And he goes, well, I got one of

1433
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,000
those offers you can't say no
to.

1434
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,640
I said, what's going on?
He goes Bob Weir, Rat Dog

1435
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,160
production manager and monitor
guy, congratulations.

1436
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,840
And he's like, it's not what I
expected.

1437
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,880
I said, am I bummed?
Yes, but guys like me want to

1438
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,920
see guys like you do good.
Of course, you know, And that

1439
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,680
proves that I was right.
And he's like, oh wow.

1440
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,240
Quakester I didn't never thought
of that and now a couple of

1441
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,880
years go by and I get a text
from Tommy Lyon.

1442
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,000
Tommy is currently the front
house guy for Dave Matthews.

1443
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:32,480
I got Tommy as gay at halters on
that's not at all Bob Cohen the

1444
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:36,480
it's quite a phone ring, but
yeah, he.

1445
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,920
He.
He says, Oh my God, Oh my God,

1446
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,040
Chris.
And I'm like, what are you

1447
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,600
talking about?
And then Derek Featherstone

1448
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,000
calls me and he says Chris
shook.

1449
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,240
He died.
I'm like, what?

1450
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,360
Now?
He was supposed to be putting,

1451
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,760
he'd been out with the dead and
stuff like that.

1452
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,240
And we're supposed to be putting
something together at the

1453
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:58,040
Fillmore in San Francisco with
Bob Weir and Rat Dog.

1454
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,040
And they hadn't heard from him
for a few days.

1455
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,760
So AJ, Bob's tech breaks into
Chris's apartment and finds him

1456
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,440
and he'd been gone for a couple
of days now.

1457
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:09,960
I'm on the phone with Derek and
my phone rings and I look and I

1458
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,200
went.
I got a 415 that's identifying

1459
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,120
itself as the San Francisco
Police Department.

1460
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,240
Derek, hold the line.
I'll be right back.

1461
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,800
Click over now.
When Chris started working for

1462
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,120
me, when most people start
working for me to make you fill

1463
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:28,520
out a form that says emergency
contacts, etcetera, etcetera,

1464
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,160
etcetera, and Quake Star, I
don't have any family.

1465
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,520
I don't know.
I said, put me down as your

1466
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,320
emergency contact.
Well, San Francisco Police

1467
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,240
Department says, Mr. Mark, we
regret to him for you, Chris

1468
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,080
Shiroki has passed away.
I said, how did you get my

1469
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,960
number?
And he said in his wallet was a

1470
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,800
piece of paper that said in case
of an emergency, please call Tim

1471
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,120
Quake Mark.
And he had three of my phone

1472
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,240
numbers crossed out, my current
cell phone number listed.

1473
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,200
So Oh my goodness, maintained it
that whole time.

1474
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,880
That is now a couple of years
ago.

1475
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:02,120
The local company I'm working
for here, the owner calls me up

1476
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,000
on a Friday.
He goes, I hate doing this, but

1477
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,840
I got to, I got to send you down
to Cornell for a couple of days.

1478
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,680
I'm like, you know, we were
doing a thing called slope day

1479
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,880
form.
And he goes, well, Grateful

1480
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,920
Dead's coming in to redo their
biggest recording they've ever

1481
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,120
done.
We're doing stage barricades,

1482
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,680
EDADA ramps, running the labor
through US, loading dock, all

1483
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:26,960
that stuff, and we wound up not
doing the stage.

1484
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,040
But he says, I, I got to leave
somebody there as the company

1485
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:31,880
Rep and I hate doing it because
I know you'll just talk

1486
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,240
everybody's ear off, but you got
to go.

1487
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,440
I'm like, OK, so I show up on
the Sunday band was flying in

1488
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:40,480
from doing Jazz Fest in New
Orleans.

1489
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,040
So trucks are running a little
late.

1490
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:47,200
And he, I haven't, the owner of
the company introduced me to the

1491
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,080
promoter and the, the rigor guy
is standing there and I've known

1492
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:55,440
this guy for decades and his
name is Sam Rigor Sam.

1493
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,240
And he looks like he's somebody
Sam only with white hair.

1494
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,000
And he, I said, well, I'm just
going to apologize now.

1495
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,880
And the promoter guys like, why?
And I said, I was a 22 year

1496
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,880
employee of ultrasound.
Well, both Sam and I caught the

1497
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,000
eye roll and he's like, oh
great, you know, OK, whatever

1498
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,440
dude, go back out.
First guy to show up as the

1499
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:18,000
production manager and state
manager guy named Chris Scott.

1500
01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:22,440
And I walk up behind Chris and
he's pointing around stuffing

1501
01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:23,800
up.
So I come up behind my do the

1502
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,480
same thing and he turns around.
What?

1503
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,120
Oh my God.
Quake gives me a big hug and he

1504
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,320
he's talking to promote.
He goes, this is my first tour

1505
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,840
manager and you know, this is da
da and I'm like, oh great, here

1506
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,560
we go.
And then next thing is the sound

1507
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,480
crew that comes in and they all
lined up and it was just like I

1508
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,800
was at a wedding.
Oh my God, quick, oh God quick.

1509
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,800
It's so good to eat.
Oh my God, quick, Oh God quick.

1510
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,080
You know, go through all them.
Then the back line crew shows up

1511
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:53,080
and AJ realizes Bob's tech
realizes who I am, comes over

1512
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,120
and we hugged it out for a good
10 minutes with him crying.

1513
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:00,400
And then next the band comes in,
they're heading to their

1514
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,440
dressing room.
I've missed Derek as he walked

1515
01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:05,000
in, but the drummer walks in.
Drummer used to play in Primus,

1516
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,560
who I used to work with.
And he walks past, stops, turns

1517
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:08,880
around, and he goes, what are
you doing here?

1518
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,040
I said I'm your labor, etcetera.
Oh my God.

1519
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:17,320
Quick, Oh my God.
So I'm setting up an ADA ramp in

1520
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,560
the back of the house and Derek
comes in, he's sitting, he's

1521
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,320
downstage love talking to the
promoter, and he's facing into

1522
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,320
the arena.
And all of a sudden he sees me.

1523
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,760
And the promoter tells me this,
he said he saw you and he

1524
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,640
started shaking and he said, I'm
sorry, but nothing we can talk

1525
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:33,680
about.
It's going to be any more

1526
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,720
important than this.
And he realized Derek's crying.

1527
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:40,560
I hadn't seen Derek face to face
for 1212 years at that point,

1528
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,160
something like that.
So he comes over.

1529
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,280
Oh my God, Quake, you know, nice
big hug.

1530
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:48,280
And we talked for a bit, you
know, makes feel free to sit

1531
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,000
down behind me.
I said my boss doesn't want me

1532
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,120
anywhere near you during the
show.

1533
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,960
So thank you.
I appreciate the offer.

1534
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,400
But you know, I will watch
Matea's tunes.

1535
01:19:56,400 --> 01:20:00,640
The PA though, And end of the
night they all lined up and stop

1536
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,800
to say goodbye.
Derek leaves with the band.

1537
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,960
So he came back, sought me out,
goodbye.

1538
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,680
Walk us out to the bus.
OK, cool.

1539
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,240
They all take off sound crew,
big hugs.

1540
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,560
Same thing with the stage
manager.

1541
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,160
And at 3:00 in the morning, here
comes the promoter guy and he

1542
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,920
goes, well, First off, I got it.
You, you obviously have this

1543
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,360
under control.
You don't need my help.

1544
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,760
I have to shake your hand and
apologize.

1545
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:21,320
I'm like, excuse me?
And he goes.

1546
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,360
When you told me you're a 22
year old employee, I did not.

1547
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,440
Believe you that you worked for
ultrasound and he goes obviously

1548
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:30,680
you are and I now understand why
Sam said you have a God complex.

1549
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,360
Excuse me.
And he goes every single person

1550
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,360
that walked up you said Oh my
God quake.

1551
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,800
That's hilarious.
Okay yeah, I have to wear that

1552
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,760
one.
So you you remind me of like an

1553
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,680
audio version of Cosmo.
Because the guy you know, he

1554
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,080
knows, first of all, he knows
everyone.

1555
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,080
He has a billion friends in
every country.

1556
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:53,000
Everybody knows Cosmo and
everyone gives them big hugs.

1557
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,920
He's a good hugger.
And but also he, he had the same

1558
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:01,160
gig that that you have with
Donnie for Gateway, you know,

1559
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,640
where he was just basically
saying, hey, these are nice

1560
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:04,920
people.
These are nice people.

1561
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,680
Let me introduce you.
And so it wasn't like a sales

1562
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:10,040
guy.
He was just somebody that was a

1563
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,400
goodwill ambassador basically
and and ironically, right after

1564
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:14,960
he started with Gateway, we
brought him.

1565
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,400
Out in 22 as the LD for Slash.
So I got the tour with him,

1566
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,800
which was kind of nice because
during that period of time, we

1567
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,960
were both born in 1961, and we
were both turning 61, two weeks,

1568
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,640
like 3 weeks apart and stuff.
And we were in LA doing

1569
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,120
rehearsal.
We'd finished rehearsals and

1570
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,760
loaded the truck and we went out
to Casa Vega for dinner.

1571
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,520
And he's like, I got a special
surprise for you quick for your

1572
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,000
birthday.
I'm like, what the heck is going

1573
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,920
on?
He goes, and then he gets a call

1574
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,040
and goes, excuse me?
Well, he comes walking in with

1575
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:48,000
Billy Mummy from the Monsters.
All right.

1576
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,760
Of course.
Yeah, yeah.

1577
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,040
You're like, Oh my God, you
brought Eddie from the Monsters

1578
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,840
for my birthday.
Ironically, a couple weeks

1579
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:58,680
later, we're in LA playing the
Nokia Theatre, and it was

1580
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,440
Cosmo's birthday.
And unfortunately, it was a bad

1581
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:04,840
day to be a lighting guy.
You know, they didn't have the

1582
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,200
right fixtures.
They didn't, you know, the

1583
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,720
lighting guy just kind of threw
his hands up and walked away.

1584
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:13,480
The guy wound up losing his job
over the whole thing and just,

1585
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:14,880
you know, it was a rough day for
him.

1586
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,840
Follow spots.
He never thought to get clear.

1587
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,480
Calm.
Oh, gel, no.

1588
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:23,760
How much?
And it's spelled out very

1589
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,440
clearly and we discussed it, you
know, very clearly during the

1590
01:22:26,440 --> 01:22:27,320
advanced stuff.
So.

1591
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,720
But yeah, he he's such a good
guy.

1592
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,960
And yeah.
And what I can see you and Cosmo

1593
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,880
together like it makes sense to
me, you.

1594
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,880
Know Cosmo's one of my favorite
people.

1595
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,280
He's just such a great guy and
and who hasn't better collection

1596
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,440
of Hawaiian shirts?
You know you.

1597
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,720
Know I don't know that I'd call
it better like.

1598
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,400
More extensive, perhaps, but.
You know who?

1599
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,560
Wants to wear Hawaiian skirts
other.

1600
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,360
Than him.
You know, but but yeah, so your

1601
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,120
health, I mean so it's
completely right now it's

1602
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,920
completely I wouldn't say
remission, but it's controlled

1603
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,000
yes You know it's as best I.
Can, like I said, I had to learn

1604
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,360
to live with it.
A lot of dietary changes, one of

1605
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,800
the biggest good.
I mean, that's good for

1606
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,840
longevity anyways.
Yeah, yeah, very true.

1607
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,280
We all have.
To change sooner or later, yeah.

1608
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,920
Very true, and it's.
It's funny a couple of years

1609
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,320
back in. 23 I was doing a show
with STP at a festival and I had

1610
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,200
to have a stage hand come over.
I said I got to spike the front

1611
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,120
edge of the stage for the guy
and I said there's no polite way

1612
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:31,480
of putting it.
The older I get, the further

1613
01:23:31,480 --> 01:23:33,000
away that gets.
And he goes well that's a good

1614
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,560
thing, right?
I'm like, what are you talking

1615
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:35,280
about?
He goes.

1616
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:36,960
You're further away from the
dirt, Owen.

1617
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,760
Smart man.
Yeah, yeah.

1618
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,160
Extra doughnut for you.
You know what though?

1619
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,800
Your.
Your mind is so incredibly sharp

1620
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,760
still.
Obviously at 64, like not

1621
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,320
everyone is like that.
You know, I, I know mine, I've

1622
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,200
had to work on, you know, like
I, some of my memory things and

1623
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,720
stuff aren't as good as they
used to be.

1624
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,560
And I pay very close attention
to it, always have, because my

1625
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,680
mom has dementia and has for
many years now.

1626
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,560
And so I've paid very close
attention to that, but I also

1627
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,400
pay attention to people who are
as old or older than me, who

1628
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,160
have very sharp minds.
And I try to pay attention to,

1629
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,040
you know, how did you get there?
Like, how, why is your mind so

1630
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,600
sharp?
And you know, I, I, and let's

1631
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,000
face it, a lot of it's, you
know, we.

1632
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,600
Talked earlier about you running
into Jake Berry and having a

1633
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,440
talk with him and, you know,
he's older than I am and, and

1634
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,160
he's still right there no
problem.

1635
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,200
I, I have a few, you know,
issues and dementia runs in my

1636
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,440
family as well.
And I have one of the, the

1637
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:38,360
assistants that I work with was
Slash.

1638
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,960
He, he told me a story of
somebody come up, man, that

1639
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,320
guy's got a lot of stories.
And he goes, yeah, well, the

1640
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,200
good news is, you know, Quake's
had an amazing career.

1641
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,560
And the good news is he paid
attention.

1642
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,360
I said, well, I don't have a lot
of stories.

1643
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,400
He goes, wait a minute, the
storyteller, I said, no, I'm

1644
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:57,320
only telling you one story.
Mine yeah, that makes sense I

1645
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,040
said.
Dementia runs in my family, so

1646
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:00,760
when I'm.
I'm in my. 80s you're going to

1647
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,200
be able to tell me all these
stories back.

1648
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,880
Or better yet, when you show up
at my funeral and they say, all

1649
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,480
right, who wants to tell a good
quake story?

1650
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,680
Hopefully you'll stand up and do
it, you know, So I mean, my only

1651
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,920
benefit is I get to record all
of these stories.

1652
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:17,760
Because a lot of times I forget,
you know, like I, I will forget.

1653
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,400
Like somebody will say, yeah, I
was on your podcast before and

1654
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,080
I'll go really like, I don't
even remember that.

1655
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,440
And it's it sounds
disrespectful, but it's just,

1656
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:29,400
you know, I've got 350 podcasts
now.

1657
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:30,720
Or how do you keep track of
that?

1658
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,240
And it's it's a lot it also.
Happens to me when, you know,

1659
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,880
one of the things I've been
blessed with is that, you know,

1660
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,480
at First off being a memorable
name, a bandana and a Fanny

1661
01:25:41,480 --> 01:25:44,920
pack.
And I, I'll go into venues and,

1662
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,120
you know, that young man Tyler
picked up on it.

1663
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,000
He goes stage hands come up and
say, hey, Quake.

1664
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,400
Yeah.
You know, I've been working

1665
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,600
these places for years and.
Yeah.

1666
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,840
And.
And why do they Remember Me?

1667
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,280
Because I wasn't an asshole to
him, you know?

1668
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,280
And that's such a good trait
though, like treating treating

1669
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,000
the janitor as well as.
You treat the CEO or whatever,

1670
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:07,520
you know, like that to me is
such a great trait just being

1671
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:12,320
kind to people, you know, and,
and it's funny that when you.

1672
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,720
When you talk about your memory
and stuff like that, that.

1673
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:20,000
I had a little discussion with
Slash earlier this year about

1674
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,120
what happened when I first went
to work for him back with Snake

1675
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,560
Pit days.
He had had a heart issue and I'm

1676
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,720
the guy that figured it out and
I well, I wanted to tell him,

1677
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,880
especially when I got diagnosed
and told I only had a couple

1678
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,840
years to live.
I wanted to tell him what

1679
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,240
happened because he had had his
ex wife's version.

1680
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,680
I want to tell him my side and
let him start it out and he

1681
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,880
called me back and he's like,
it's amazing what you

1682
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,120
remembered.
And he goes, I talked to so many

1683
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,240
people that were around back
then.

1684
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:51,560
They're like, Oh no, he's spot
on.

1685
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:53,280
He goes, how do you remember
this?

1686
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,600
I said, and this is another part
of the reason why I can't sleep.

1687
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:03,040
As I explained to him, I said
I've relived those days 100

1688
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,200
times.
If, if I've relived him once.

1689
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,680
And the same thing with the
plane crashes, the bus crashes,

1690
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,080
all that.
I don't I, you know, I it just

1691
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,840
runs through my head constantly,
you know, And I remember being a

1692
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,520
young kid and having somebody
say that, you know, he who

1693
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,400
forgets his mistakes makes the
same mistake again, you know,

1694
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,600
and that's kind of stuck in my
head too.

1695
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:29,960
But yeah, it's, you know, I'm
just fortunate that I, 64, I can

1696
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,360
still hear.
Yeah.

1697
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,120
I can still mix.
I can still organize.

1698
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,840
Are your ears still really good
when it comes to mixing sound?

1699
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,040
Yeah.
I I I've lost a bit of high end

1700
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,440
is falling.
Off a bit, yeah.

1701
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,760
Years ago when I was doing the
Cars reunion.

1702
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:48,680
What the the last show we did
was Bala Palooza and we had a

1703
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,920
different monitor guy sitting
in.

1704
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,360
It was the guy that mixed Dave
Matthews there and, you know,

1705
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,520
unfortunately passed away
earlier this year.

1706
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,040
And he was working with Mike
Santucci from Sensophonics

1707
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:02,040
trying to develop a home hearing
test.

1708
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,640
He says, take it to your hotel
room, do it in the room and then

1709
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,320
go in the bathroom and see if
the, you know, how much the

1710
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,520
differences are.
And I brought it back to him the

1711
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,360
next day and I said, yeah, it
works pretty good, you know?

1712
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:12,720
And he goes, what were your
numbers?

1713
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:14,720
I said it worked pretty good.
He goes, You're not going to

1714
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:15,840
tell me, are you?
I said no.

1715
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,800
By the way, I figured out how to
erase the memory, too.

1716
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,520
Yeah, I do have a bit of hearing
loss, but it's not terrible, you

1717
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:23,800
know?
You know what's really good is

1718
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:29,120
the new the newest air.
Pods from from Apple, if you

1719
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:32,440
have the newest software on the
phone and the newest software in

1720
01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:36,680
the Airpods, you can do a a
really good hearing test and

1721
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,560
then it can do like they've
basically got some practically

1722
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,160
hearing aid functions in it
where it'll boost different

1723
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,040
frequencies or cut out certain
frequencies or whatever.

1724
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,280
So Apple really is paying
attention to some of those

1725
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,760
things and and which is good.
Yeah, which I know like I, you

1726
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,800
know, Lord knows with all the.
Loud guitar players I've worked

1727
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,120
with, I know several of them
that are wearing inners now that

1728
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,280
had to have them custom adjusted
to them for their hearing loss

1729
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,560
so they could hear things in the
right way.

1730
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:09,440
And for me it was I, I, I
remember exactly.

1731
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:14,040
When I lost the sort of high
frequency in my hearing, I

1732
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:18,160
played in rock bands.
And one time we were somewhere

1733
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:22,920
in northern Canada, somewhere in
some some hotel.

1734
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,400
And we we found out there was a
jam session downstairs on

1735
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,680
Saturday afternoons.
And so there was a country band

1736
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,520
playing and me, and I think
maybe it was me and our drummer

1737
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,520
or something, got up and played
with this country band and I was

1738
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,520
standing right in front of the
steel guitar players amp and it

1739
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,360
was that warp volume.
And I didn't think anything of

1740
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:46,920
it.
But ever since that day, and I

1741
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,600
was there for, I don't know, an
hour and a half or something on

1742
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,840
stage, ever since that day, my
hearing's never been the same.

1743
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,680
It I just lost a bunch.
Oh yeah.

1744
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,200
Well, and still guitar when you
when I.

1745
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,040
You know, I also believe in my
age of you should educate

1746
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,200
people.
And one of the things I tell

1747
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,200
people is, you know, if you if
you walk away from a concert or,

1748
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,200
or you're working outside on
with your mower or something and

1749
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,880
you hear that ringing in your
ear, that pitch is the pitch

1750
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,440
you're losing.
Yeah.

1751
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,000
And really, I didn't know that.
Yeah.

1752
01:30:17,480 --> 01:30:19,720
So, and it's funny and it's, you
know, I'll pick on.

1753
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:21,600
Smart.
It's one of the nice tools for

1754
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:26,360
me to have as an aging engineer
because I can see how the PA is

1755
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,200
reacting.
Okay, it's not too bright.

1756
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,000
Yeah, so you're trusting that as
much as you are.

1757
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,040
You're ears at that point.
Yeah, well, I still.

1758
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,760
What's Owen Orszak from 8th day?
Claire made the comment to me

1759
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:39,440
one time.
He goes.

1760
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:42,640
Your mix is always warmer than
anybody else, as I've heard.

1761
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,080
You don't, you don't.
Your high end is proportional,

1762
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,280
you know, and, and same thing
with your low end.

1763
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,760
I don't hear anything sticking
out on either side of that,

1764
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:52,520
which is one of the reasons,
Speaking of bass players, why I

1765
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,560
got along so well with Phil
Lesch when I worked for him.

1766
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,600
Because, you know, I mean, the
guy's book was called Searching

1767
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,080
for the Sound.
And yeah, the first show he

1768
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,680
comes in for soundtrack and he's
going up and down his neck and

1769
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,080
he goes hundreds, a little hot
push up a little 125.

1770
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:08,320
Well, that's good.
Yeah.

1771
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,320
And that's seems like you got a
little gap there at 80

1772
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,840
interesting 80 cycles and I had
an argument my when I was.

1773
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:15,960
Working for towels and we
haven't.

1774
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:17,880
Made-up yet?
So if you walk in and you see 80

1775
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,440
cycles wiped out everywhere, Guy
with a red bandana and white

1776
01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:23,560
hair is he mixes, he's on there.
That's hilarious.

1777
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,000
But yeah, it's funny that a guy
from a jam band like that would

1778
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:32,320
would be so interested in.
Or so knowledgeable about that.

1779
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,080
Yeah.
And ironically, he he didn't

1780
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,160
start, he wasn't a bass player
when he started playing.

1781
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,760
But became one of the one of the
legendary ones.

1782
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,240
And I had a guy named Phil
Garfinkel who worked for Audix.

1783
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:47,240
He came out to several of the
Phil last shows and he goes,

1784
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:48,960
you're like the sound guy to the
bass players.

1785
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,320
I started my career with Billy
Sheehan.

1786
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,880
I then did Stu Ham for a brief
period of time, Juan Alder Ready

1787
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,040
from Mars Volta, Les Claypool
and Joe Lesch.

1788
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,680
And I tell everybody there's
only one bass player out of that

1789
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:04,080
bunch and they're like what?
I said, Phil, I said Billy

1790
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,440
Sheehan was a frustrated guitar
player.

1791
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,960
Stu Ham was just playing out of
his mind.

1792
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,520
Juan Alder Ready had the biggest
pedal board I've ever seen.

1793
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:16,400
Les Claypool is a percussion
player with strings, and Phil

1794
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,080
was Phil was the king of that
walking bass line.

1795
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,440
Yeah, I always, I, I, I don't
know why you say Stu Hammes out

1796
01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:25,200
of his mind.
I was a huge fan.

1797
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,720
What was it?
Was it Satriani that he played

1798
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:28,800
with?
Yeah.

1799
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,320
I loved him in Satriani in the
old days, you know, he he just

1800
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,000
the groove that he held at the
bottom end was just so great,

1801
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,200
you know?
But he just had such a groove.

1802
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,040
Yeah.
And I, I, I was very young.

1803
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,560
I did.
The world's most dangerous band

1804
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:52,360
with, oh, for crying out loud,
Omar Keem and Willie and two

1805
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,440
guys that just locked.
I mean, just bam, it just fell

1806
01:32:56,440 --> 01:32:58,600
there.
And they were incredible, you

1807
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,400
know, and, and having Paul
Schaefer and, and Hiram Bullock

1808
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,320
playing with them was was
amazing.

1809
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:07,320
And it's funny because I for
four years straight, Rochester,

1810
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,640
NY, believe it or not, has a
Rochester Music Hall of Fame.

1811
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:15,320
It's not just Lou Graham, you
know, or Chuck man Joan.

1812
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,240
There's a lot of other people.
And one year they were playing.

1813
01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,360
Chuck was from.
Oh yeah, yeah, Chuck is from.

1814
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,240
Rochester, the company that.
I work for was built around

1815
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:29,320
Chuck back in the 70s.
This guy was his front of house

1816
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,880
guy and you know, started
putting a company together.

1817
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,760
Next thing you know, he's
running lights and, you know,

1818
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,440
got another guy to do sound and
yeah, and he, he moved on from

1819
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,400
there.
Northeastern was actually one of

1820
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,960
the first touring sound and
lighting companies doing the

1821
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,120
whole thing back in the days of
like Clara Brothers and stuff

1822
01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:46,320
like that.
Just starting out in

1823
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:52,840
Northwestern.
But the we're doing I we, I was

1824
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:54,960
doing the Hall of Fame the first
year they were putting in Wendy

1825
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:56,480
O Williams and I had very short
hair.

1826
01:33:56,760 --> 01:33:59,840
I show up in the two people that
were producing.

1827
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,520
The thing is Guy Tony Gross,
Tony used to be the guitar

1828
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,240
player in Head East and he owns
a studio here in Rochester and

1829
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:11,760
Bruce Pilato, Bruce manages Carl
Palmer.

1830
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:16,680
Yes, Asia, you know, bunch bands
like that and they're like, you

1831
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:19,000
know, this is Wendy O Williams
in the Plasmatics.

1832
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:20,440
Are you sure you're going to be
able to handle this?

1833
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,000
Owner of the company goes, I
know you got your resume where

1834
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:28,440
they just hand it to him and
they took a look and went what,

1835
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,280
what are you doing this for?
I said time and 1/2 on a Sunday.

1836
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:36,280
But the first year that went
went a little rough.

1837
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,840
Their stage manager, who is
normally a realtor didn't know

1838
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:41,080
that you have to check with the
sound guy before you say sound

1839
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:45,360
checks over.
And the next year they were

1840
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,000
putting in the Campbell Brothers
Gospel Group and the Campbell

1841
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,200
Brothers play pedal steels, and
they had Robert Randolph sitting

1842
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,560
with him.
And we're playing Kodak Hall at

1843
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,560
the Eastman Theatre.
And it's designed for an

1844
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,360
orchestra.
And, you know, soundtrack goes

1845
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:00,320
OK.
I'm like on.

1846
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,360
I've actually got a couple of
things in the PA.

1847
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,880
None of the pedal seals, but
they come out for the set or for

1848
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,360
their three songs that they did.
And the first thing I see is

1849
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,440
Robert put everything on 10.
So then here goes the Campbell

1850
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:16,880
Brothers.
So now it's stun off the stage.

1851
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:20,800
It was like having Slash, Steve
Vai and Mark Termani all playing

1852
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:22,560
in the same band together.
And they're playing through

1853
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,200
Fender Twins on a pedal steel.
And people are coming up.

1854
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,840
You're disrespecting the
Eastman, Ma'am, I'm off.

1855
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,240
The only thing in the PA is the
kick drum.

1856
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:34,720
And you know, the next year they
were putting in one of the horn

1857
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,560
players from Blood, Sweat and
Tears.

1858
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,120
And his best friend was Paul
Schaefer.

1859
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,440
Now I had gotten a call 2 weeks
earlier to go do Paul's tour and

1860
01:35:43,440 --> 01:35:47,600
I had to turn it down because I
was I didn't know you wanted all

1861
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,240
toured He.
Was at the time just.

1862
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:53,600
He does a.
Handful of dates back then, and

1863
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,640
he shows up in Bruce and Tony
Hogan.

1864
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:59,520
Good to see you, Sir.
You know, I'm Bruce Plotter Tony

1865
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:00,600
Gross.
And yeah, that's great.

1866
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,520
Where the Hell's quake?
And I'm walking across the

1867
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,520
state, you son of a bitch, you
know?

1868
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,920
Sorry, Paul, you know, you know
Quake.

1869
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,600
And he goes, well, yeah.
He makes the world's most

1870
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:10,080
dangerous.
Damn.

1871
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,960
When he was 20 years old.
And I just tried to get him to

1872
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:17,200
do my tour and stuff.
And they're like, wow, we got to

1873
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:18,280
look at you in a different
light.

1874
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,880
Well, the next year they're
putting in Steve Gadd and Tony

1875
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,520
Levin and they we had the big
meeting before the thing and

1876
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,720
they're like, well, we got a
special guest coming in to sit

1877
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,160
in with them, but we can't tell
you his name and he's got some

1878
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:33,240
pretty specific requirements.
I said he wants an SM58 and a

1879
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,200
countryman DI.
I've already talked to him and I

1880
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,280
told him you're getting a, a
radial JDI and I'm bringing one

1881
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,400
of my 58.
So it's a brand new set up.

1882
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,480
And they're like what?
I said, wait, First off, do you

1883
01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:45,800
think I'm an idiot?
What's Steve Gadd's most famous

1884
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:52,920
drum beat?
50 Ways to Lose Your lover #1 #2

1885
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,520
He's managed by the guy that
manages the cars and Bob Dylan,

1886
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:58,200
and the guy's a friend of mine.
He called me up to ask me if I

1887
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,320
could take care of him while
he's here.

1888
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,200
I said why?
Ironically, I'm the sound guy

1889
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,160
for the show.
So same thing happens.

1890
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,600
Paul walks in.
Tony Gross, you know, Bruce

1891
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,480
Pilato and great.
Where's Quake?

1892
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:10,840
Oh, that's him.
Oh, oh, hi, Quake.

1893
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,000
Oh, Mr. Simon, good to meet you.
It's, you know, everything went

1894
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,560
really well.
But yeah, that's cool.

1895
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:18,640
Yeah.
And and events like that are a

1896
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:22,920
lot of fun because I'm not just
mixing your standard rock band.

1897
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:28,840
One year they had a string
quartet and I took 24 fourteens

1898
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,440
and put them between the string
players.

1899
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,000
That's not going to be enough go
away.

1900
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:37,080
And during the whole thing, the
people are the Bruce and Tony

1901
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:38,960
are standing behind me going.
Sounds amazing.

1902
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,320
I'm like kiss.
Keep it simple, stupid.

1903
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,560
You know, you know, they, they
have a, they had called

1904
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,120
primetime funk from here in in
Rochester and they've got an

1905
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:51,880
amazing horn section that plays
with them and they're like the

1906
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:53,520
way you deal with your horns and
stuff.

1907
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,200
I've said I grew up my old man
was a horn player, you know, and

1908
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,480
I grew up with horns all the
time.

1909
01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:01,360
And you know, it's you get the
mix of variety and you know,

1910
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:03,960
here again, working for this
local company all summer long.

1911
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,920
You know, I'm doing the opening
act for the Thursday in the

1912
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:08,600
Square shows and stuff like
that.

1913
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,200
But at least I'm getting but it
it sounds like you do as much

1914
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:15,600
production management as you.
Do mixing though right These

1915
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,560
days, yes.
Yeah, the majority of my tours.

1916
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,120
I'm usually both.
Do you prefer that?

1917
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:27,520
I tell folks the only fun I have
the whole day is the 2 hours

1918
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,120
behind the desk.
Yeah.

1919
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:30,680
And the rest of it is just a
means to an end.

1920
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:35,720
As a production manager, I trust
myself.

1921
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,400
Yeah.
If that makes sense.

1922
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:41,040
And, you know, I've learned
enough on what not to do.

1923
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,760
Yeah.
And you know, when I in 1990, I

1924
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:46,880
was hired to be the front house
guy for Jane's Addiction.

1925
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,240
And we start the tour after they
took it, we did a couple of

1926
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:52,760
shows.
Then we had to take a break so I

1927
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,760
could get married and go on a
quick three day honeymoon.

1928
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,440
And I flew over to Europe and
we're in Europe and Ted Gardner

1929
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,560
is like, bloody hell.
You know, I've known you for

1930
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,880
years, but I'd, I'd never seen
your CV.

1931
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,400
Can you give me your CV resume?
So I give him my resume and he

1932
01:39:06,440 --> 01:39:08,480
comes back and he goes, bloody
hell, you've got all this

1933
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:11,400
management experience because
when I met him, I was the

1934
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,760
production manager for a band
called Keel in front of House

1935
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:15,640
Guy.
And he was working with Envy.

1936
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,960
Now, Ron Keel's the guy that
brought Inve Melmsey into the

1937
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:23,480
US.
And those two were like gasoline

1938
01:39:23,480 --> 01:39:25,800
and a lit match.
They did not.

1939
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,880
Don't put them anywhere.
And I said, will you keep your

1940
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,080
guy over there?
I'll keep my guy over here.

1941
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:33,200
And so he's like, well, you
know, And then I went on to

1942
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,800
production manager Stacy Q.
And then I started doing

1943
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,320
dangerous Toys as tour manager
in front of House Guy.

1944
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:44,360
And I remember those really
early Inve days when.

1945
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,440
Jim Yakubuski used to be a club.
Sound.

1946
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:53,440
Guy in in Alberta where I was
from and I was good friends with

1947
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:57,680
Jim back then and I remember he
got a gig with like D&B or

1948
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:03,080
something and or DB sound, DB
sound and they end up putting

1949
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:04,520
him on.
Ingvae.

1950
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,680
As the monitor guy.
And you know, at the time he was

1951
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,960
like, it's the, it's fun, but
it's the hardest kick I've ever

1952
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:12,920
done.
Like, Can you imagine being

1953
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:14,960
Ingvai's monitor guy?
Jesus.

1954
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,320
And now it's funny.
Nobody else hears anything other

1955
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:18,720
than guitar.
Every.

1956
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:21,200
Monitor has guitar coming
through it at 10.

1957
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,960
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I'm stunned.

1958
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,760
And.
And now it's funny.

1959
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:30,600
Because I did a few shows for
Dean DB Sound back in the day.

1960
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,880
Harry Witz was the front house
guy for Triumph.

1961
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:38,440
Yeah, and he's funny because
Gilmore is texting me while I'm.

1962
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,680
But if you see me typing.
It's because Gil, the drummer

1963
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,920
from Triumph is is no kidding me
as as I'm Thomas, they want to

1964
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,360
fire in front of house guy.
You know a good one.

1965
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:47,760
Cool.
Well, he.

1966
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,320
Something happened in Harry
Sammy.

1967
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:54,200
He had to take a few days off,
so I had to fly out and fill in

1968
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,120
for him.
And I'd only met Harry a few

1969
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,880
times coming through town.
I want to say I had mixed Rick

1970
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:06,480
Derringer when I had met him,
and Jim Holman was the systems

1971
01:41:06,480 --> 01:41:10,320
engineer.
Yakubuski and Bruce Knight were

1972
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,440
the 2 fly guys.
And every morning I'd come in,

1973
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:15,760
well, let's do this.
Want them like that.

1974
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:20,960
And few years go by and, you
know, now Yakubuski is, you

1975
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,160
know, in every magazine, you
know, talking about this,

1976
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:25,960
talking about that, I'm like,
yeah, he's done really good for

1977
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,920
himself.
And Bruce was the front of house

1978
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:30,520
guy for Sheryl Crow for quite a
while.

1979
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,840
And he kept threatening to leave
if they didn't give him salary.

1980
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:34,880
And every time he threatened to
leave, they go, well, we already

1981
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,040
sent quite the plane tickets.
So, you know, it's like, oh,

1982
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:41,560
boy, playing me against him.
And Jim was out as the systems

1983
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,160
engineer for Bob Dylan.
And they let their front of

1984
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,600
house Guy go.
And if he ever makes front of

1985
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:49,520
house, well, yeah.
And he goes, you're up.

1986
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:54,080
It went out as an ultrasound
tour and I was still with

1987
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,040
ultrasound at the time.
And they had they were having

1988
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,480
some problems with Jim.
So I showed up at a show in

1989
01:41:59,480 --> 01:42:01,960
Rochester, took a look at what
he was doing.

1990
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:03,840
And at the end of the show we
were chatting and stuff.

1991
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,680
And I said, what did you you
paid me a great compliment at

1992
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:09,760
the end of the tour.
Do you remember what that was

1993
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,360
with Triumph?
And he goes, no, I don't.

1994
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:13,960
And he said he said thank you
because every morning you're in

1995
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,880
here, you're telling us what you
want and how you want it done.

1996
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,400
So what are you not doing here?
And he looked at me kind of

1997
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,160
sideways.
I said, Jim, I'm just going to

1998
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,120
be polite and say your
management company had a name

1999
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:27,600
engineer come in, get your head
out of your butt, or I'm going

2000
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:29,400
to be your solution.
Yeah.

2001
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,440
And the production manager calls
me up like four or five days

2002
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:34,040
later.
He goes what?

2003
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,520
You tell him I said the truth.
He goes 180��, completely

2004
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:38,560
different person.
He's wonderful.

2005
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,560
Wow, that was a good early
career education.

2006
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:45,760
You know, you just got to say,
don't you know people are so

2007
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,880
afraid?
You know, when I went and filled

2008
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,840
in and talk to you, we don't
want this guy to find out.

2009
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:53,000
Well, OK, fair enough.
Well, don't call any of the

2010
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,640
venues because you know, so
naturally what I, what did I do?

2011
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:57,920
I called the first 3 venues
because I knew the people, you

2012
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,560
know, and so just don't tell the
other guy.

2013
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,000
But I'm replacing him.
What is he?

2014
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,320
What is he got set up.
I'm not going to try and

2015
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,960
reinvent the Wheeler, but yeah,
yeah, that makes a huge amount

2016
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,200
of sense.
Yeah.

2017
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:09,520
And you know.
And I've had several

2018
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,280
conversations with Pooch and
Toby.

2019
01:43:11,480 --> 01:43:14,560
About, you know, guys our age
needing to pay it forward to the

2020
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,160
younger generation.
And I tell folks this all the

2021
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,800
time, I said.
There's photos of me ringing at

2022
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:24,200
the University of Buffalo.
We would climb the beam side of

2023
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,480
the beam, climb out hand over
hand.

2024
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,360
There's no harness.
We build a little basket out of

2025
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:34,280
some straps, throw a rope over,
catch yourself into a carabiner

2026
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,920
and tighten it up and tie
yourself and pull the points up.

2027
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:40,600
Because back then the University
of Buffalo, their arena when it

2028
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:43,240
originally got built, didn't
take into account snow loads.

2029
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:46,080
So they can only have X amount
of weight up and we get down to

2030
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,200
the last point to pull the last
speaker cabin up.

2031
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,720
We were doing their
commencements with the local

2032
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,560
company I was with and I'd have
to send the other guy down

2033
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,160
because I was the biggest guy in
the company.

2034
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,120
The point then they'd have to
hold the rope for like 5 minutes

2035
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,600
while my arms went okay, okay,
we're okay, okay.

2036
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:03,200
But I said, and, you know, hand
over hand back to that beam and

2037
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,480
shimmy down that beam and you're
welcome.

2038
01:44:05,480 --> 01:44:08,360
And the kids go What?
I said I did that so you don't

2039
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:09,680
have to.
You know, I have safeties and

2040
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,160
harnesses and regulations and
stuff.

2041
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:14,880
And I said, we used to work all
day, drive the truck all night,

2042
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,440
work all day, drive the truck
all night.

2043
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,560
But if it was chemical
enhancement, the other thing was

2044
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,680
we all had long hair.
You roll the window down, put

2045
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:23,280
your hair in the window.
Every time you nodded, pulled

2046
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,000
your hair.
I blame that my balls.

2047
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:26,600
That's funny.
Yeah.

2048
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,800
But it was a good and good way.
Young people are like, hey, this

2049
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:32,920
works awesome.
I'm like told you, that's funny.

2050
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,720
But you don't, you don't have to
do that anymore.

2051
01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:38,000
And you're welcome because
people like me went through, you

2052
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:42,120
know, well, I'd have to like,
have my head, right?

2053
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,080
Against the window.
If I was going to try and stick

2054
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,520
my hair out the window, it'd be,
you know, I don't have much

2055
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,760
hair.
So it's about this long, you

2056
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,720
know, it wouldn't be that easy
to do now.

2057
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,720
A couple weeks ago we did a
reunion with the.

2058
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:57,040
Company I used to work for in
Buffalo there and we were

2059
01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:59,320
talking about the fact that
First off, we've lost a lot of

2060
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,040
folks, including the original 2
owners.

2061
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:06,040
And the one of the original
owners was a guy named Jim

2062
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,240
Peachy.
And and I replaced him with a

2063
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:09,760
band called Big Willy in the
Hubcaps.

2064
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:14,200
When I was 18 years old, 19
years old, the guys from Tallis

2065
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:18,160
came out to see me mixed at Big
Willy and they were, Mike was

2066
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:22,360
going to leave and go into
management and they came down to

2067
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,520
there was a guy named Randy
Schul who went on to be the

2068
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:27,080
front of house guy for Spyro
Gyre.

2069
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,000
Jim Peachy or me.
And Peachy told me if you don't

2070
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,840
take the kid, you're an idiot,
you know?

2071
01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:35,440
So I owe my career to him.
But we're also talking because

2072
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:38,480
out of that company we had a guy
named Gary Rosner, who went on

2073
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:42,080
to become the vice president of
entertainment services, Cat

2074
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:48,240
Power, Mike Reagan, who went on
to become the business manager

2075
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,840
of the Hamilton Union.
Now he just works as a hand.

2076
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:56,560
Rich Turn, who went on to become
the guitar tech for Zebra and a

2077
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,720
couple of other bands.
Ironically, no sound guys came

2078
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:03,760
out of my classes that I had
there, but Mike Fechner, who

2079
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,960
started with me in the company,
Mike went on to do Dolly Parton,

2080
01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:11,000
Paul Rogers, Bad Company, Cheryl
Group.

2081
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,360
Yeah, solid group.
Yeah.

2082
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:17,080
And they said, well, who's the
most successful sound guy you

2083
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,280
know?
And I said this guy Tony, Tony

2084
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,880
came in and basically replaced
me and the company.

2085
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,920
When I started touring, Gary
Rosner talked me into leaving

2086
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:26,840
the company.
He goes, you, you, you've done

2087
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,000
this and the company's doing
that.

2088
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,120
Get out of here.
And you know, I'm like, OK, But

2089
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,720
I said the most successful guy
is Tony.

2090
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,880
He's like, what?
He hasn't done nearly anything

2091
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:39,800
like you and Fechner did.
And I'm like, yeah, but he works

2092
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,880
in a club.
He walks to work every day

2093
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:43,880
because it's about a block and
1/2 from his house.

2094
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,800
He mixes four or five nights a
week.

2095
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,440
Yeah.
And he's happy.

2096
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:51,840
Yeah.
That's all that matters.

2097
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:53,880
Doesn't matter.
Playing the a normal dumb isn't

2098
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:55,720
the.
It isn't all it's cut out to be,

2099
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,800
you know?
Well, and you know what?

2100
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,520
Some of the I don't know, like.
I think if people are chasing

2101
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,280
money or whatever, like some of
the richest people I know are

2102
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,680
the most unhappy, that whole
thing is very true, you know,

2103
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,280
And you're doing something you
love to do, and you're doing it

2104
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,080
around people that you love to
be around.

2105
01:47:12,440 --> 01:47:16,040
Just be happy, man.
Like, yeah, you're, you're,

2106
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:16,680
you've.
Won.

2107
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:20,360
Life at that point, you know, if
if you're where you want to be

2108
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,680
with the people you want to be
and you're actually getting paid

2109
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,120
to do it, you've won.
Yeah, period.

2110
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,240
Well, and if you're not making
$1,000,000.

2111
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:28,800
Yeah.
And it's funny because when I

2112
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:34,320
went back to Slash.
In 24 there, Daughtry had made

2113
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:38,800
me a pretty sizable offer and I,
I turned it down and went back

2114
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,520
to Slash, where I don't make as
much money.

2115
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:44,480
But between the history of with
him and the way he treats me #1

2116
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,480
and, and you know, the
friendship we have #2 and the

2117
01:47:48,480 --> 01:47:50,440
fact that, you know, I'm
surrounded with great people,

2118
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:53,080
We're not there for the money.
It's all about the music in that

2119
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,720
case.
And there so many times I've

2120
01:47:57,080 --> 01:47:59,800
turned down that big tour
because, well, I got to finish

2121
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:02,680
this one because I'm not going
to jump just because you dangle

2122
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:04,800
money in front of me because
it's not everything.

2123
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,320
So it is what you said.
Sometimes being happy is isn't

2124
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,120
that big money paycheck, no
stuff.

2125
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:15,200
But I mean, hey, everyone wants
to be paid more or whatever.

2126
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,960
But The thing is, I've always
found that that, you know, when

2127
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:22,320
you when you get enough and
you're happy doing what you're

2128
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,320
doing, just be happy, you know?
Yeah, yeah.

2129
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,040
You'll be miserable chasing
money.

2130
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:29,000
Allow yourself to be.
Happy too, and that's

2131
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:30,560
absolutely.
You know I mean.

2132
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,520
You know, I I telephone folks
that, you know, when I first

2133
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:37,160
started working for Slash, it
was one of the wealthiest people

2134
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,160
I'd worked for and the most
unhappy man I ever met.

2135
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:45,160
Yeah, it's incredible, isn't it?
And now, First off, I, when I

2136
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,480
was talking to him back in
January and stuff, I said, well,

2137
01:48:47,480 --> 01:48:50,160
I only weigh this much now.
And he goes, wow, so you weigh

2138
01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:53,520
less than I did when I met you
and I weigh more than you do

2139
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,880
now.
And I'm like, I want my body

2140
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,120
back, you know, because we
basically switched bodies and

2141
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:01,600
stuff.
But yeah, you know what?

2142
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,400
I'm, I'm really happy that
you're, you're healthy again.

2143
01:49:04,400 --> 01:49:07,240
And, and you're taking care of
yourself and, and headed the

2144
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,080
right direction on that.
And you're going to live at

2145
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:13,560
least till 75, and by then, God
knows what AI is going to do

2146
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,560
for, you know, kidney disease or
or whatever.

2147
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,000
Like we're probably all going to
live to 120, you know, because

2148
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,160
of the advancements that come
from AI.

2149
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,640
But will we have anything to do,
you know?

2150
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,760
Yeah, Well, and by.
The way you're not going to need

2151
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:29,400
front of house people.
Anymore, because AI is going to

2152
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,240
handle that.
It's going to push a button and

2153
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,080
yeah, well, you don't even push
the button.

2154
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:34,760
Who?
Needs to push a button you.

2155
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:38,560
Know buttons are for old guys.
You know, buttons don't work

2156
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:42,320
anymore.
No, unfortunately I have to wind

2157
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,920
this down because I actually
have a meeting in about 7

2158
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,000
minutes.
So but I really appreciate you

2159
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,880
doing this and I love hearing
all the updates in your life and

2160
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:56,480
your story and all that stuff.
And you know, hopefully let me

2161
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:58,880
know what the tour is when you
can announce it.

2162
01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:02,000
Let me know what that is and
maybe I'll come out and see you

2163
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,440
somewhere.
And sounds good.

2164
01:50:03,440 --> 01:50:07,440
Your hand and say sounds good
and you know by the way folks

2165
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:08,600
if.
You're not renting gear from

2166
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:09,720
Marcel.
Give me a call.

2167
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,200
I've got this company called
Video West.

2168
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,440
Yeah, Yeah, you know, well, I
don't rent gear.

2169
01:50:14,440 --> 01:50:17,040
So you're winning there.
I I do a lot of.

2170
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:20,720
Business with video West and I
like them so yeah I like Donnie

2171
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:24,240
OK cool.
Best of luck to you and and take

2172
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:25,720
care.
Of yourself for sure, like.

2173
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,880
Health is more without it, you
got nothing.

2174
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,520
Obviously, right.
Yeah, very true, as you know.

2175
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:31,480
Yeah.
Great.

2176
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:32,840
Great to talk to you again, my
friend.

2177
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:33,840
All right, Quake.
Thank you.

2178
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:34,440
Yeah.
Bye.

2179
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:57,480
Bye.
Yeah.