#318 - Jake Berry - Behind the Scenes of Ozzy Osbourne's Final Show

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On this special episode of Geez
of Gear, we have invited the

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legendary Jake Berry to reflect
on his incredible experience

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managing Ozzie S final show Back
to the Beginning.

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Held in Birmingham, England, the
emotional farewell brought

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together a massive lineup of
rock and metal heavyweights

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including Metallica, Guns and
Roses, Tool and Slayer.

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Other notable acts included
Pantera, Hailstorm, Alice In

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Chains, Lamb of God, Anthrax,
and Mastodon.

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The event also featured a super
group with Billy Corgan, Ronnie

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Woods, Steven Tyler, which
actually I thought was

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incredible, and the original
Black Sabbath lineup in a

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tribute to a career that shaped
the face of rock and metal.

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As the world mourns the recent
passing of Ozzy Osbourne, this

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conversation serves as both a
behind the scenes look at his

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final bow and a tribute to a
true icon.

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Jake shares what it was like
being part of such a historic

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night, the challenges of putting
it all together, and what Ozzie

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meant to the artists, crew and
fans alike.

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Hey, welcome and thanks for
coming by to listen slash watch

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this one.
You know, occasionally there is

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a podcast that just really gets
me going for even a few days

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prior.
This particular one is obviously

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a super special one being that
I've been an Ozzy Osbourne and

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Black Sabbath fan literally
since, I don't know, I was

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probably 12 or something when I
really got into Black Sabbath a

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little bit.
And then after that, of course,

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Ozzy, as he started his solo
career, you know, incredible

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artist.
I've seen him live countless

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times and in all kinds of
buildings.

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I pretty much it's one of those
artists that I remember every

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time I saw Ozzy or Black Sabbath
or combinations of the two.

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Been to a few Oz Fest shows
where I was providing some

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lighting and you know, I, I was
talking yesterday with Rod

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Gibson about seeing Ozzy as a
solo artist for my first time at

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Max Ballerina in, in Calgary,
which is sort of like a junior

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hockey arena.
It's not one of the big arenas.

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It was a smaller one and they
had Motörhead opening for them

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and I remember it so clearly.
It was the classic Ozzy band

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with, with Randy Rhodes, Rudy
Sarzo, Tommy Aldridge.

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It was incredible.
It was just like mind blowing.

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I just remember looking at the
band and just going, wow, these

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guys are good.
Like this is a good band.

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And you know, of course, Ozzy
being the penultimate front man

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and and singer and just an
incredible show.

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I remember it so well.
Thank God I remember it because,

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you know, that was the highlight
for me of of Ozzy.

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I know he got much bigger than
that, but for me, that's the one

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that I remember the most.
And which is crazy because it's

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the furthest 1 back, you know,
So, you know, I reached out to

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Jake right after the show and I
said, Hey, you know, let's let's

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just do a podcast about this
show and how incredibly

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challenging it was, but probably
how incredibly rewarding it was

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for you as well.
And he said, you know, Marcel,

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if, if, if I were to retire
tomorrow, this is the way to go

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out.
Just an incredible experience.

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And so I can't wait to talk with
him about that.

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But obviously, since that
conversation and since we

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decided to schedule this
podcast, things have taken a

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crazy change and a very sad and
inevitable change.

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And Ozzy has, of course, passed
away sadly.

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And so I didn't know if we were
still going to record this.

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I left that entirely up to Jake.
And Jake said, yeah, let's do

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it.
And so I know that there's going

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to be some emotions for him
because I know that Jake was

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obviously very close with with
Ozzy and, and with the band and

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with Sharon and putting this all
together.

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And so, you know, it's it's
crazy that just a couple of

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weeks ago he was he was, you
know, telling them to open the

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gates for this show.
And, and now, two weeks later,

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here we're talking about Ozzy's
life and, and his, you know,

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his, his passing on.
So just to read you the little

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bio that our lovely producer
Sarah has put together for this.

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On this special episode of Geese
of Gear, we have invited the

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legendary Jake Berry to reflect
on his incredible experience

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managing Ozzy's final show back
to the beginning.

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Held in Birmingham, England, the
emotional farewell brought

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together a massive line up of
rock and metal heavyweights

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including Metallica, Guns and
Roses, Tool and Slayer.

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Other notable acts included
Pantera, I don't even know how

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to say that one.
Go Gora, go go.

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I don't know, Hailstorm, Alice
In Chains, Lamb of God, Anthrax

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and Mastodon.
The event also featured a super

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group with Billy Corgan, Ronnie
Wood, Steven Tyler, which

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actually I thought was
incredible, and the original

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Black Sabbath lineup in a
tribute to a career that shaped

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the face of rock and metal.
As the world mourns the recent

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passing of Ozzy Osbourne, this
conversation serves as both a

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behind the scenes look at his
final bow and a tribute to a

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true icon.
Jake shares what it was like

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being part of such a historic
night, the challenges of putting

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it all together, and what Ozzie
meant to the artists, crew and

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fans alike.
And that's true.

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Ozzie loved his fans.
Ozzie, I believe in his heart

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and soul.
He did this for his fans.

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Join us as we honor the Prince
of Darkness, celebrate his

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legacy, and hear first hand how
one of the greatest shows in

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rock history came to life.
Jake, Hello.

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How are you?
Very good.

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Thank you very much.
Yeah, thanks for jumping on and

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doing this.
You're in Greece right now,

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right?
I am, yes.

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Yeah, cool.
Well, actually not cool.

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I heard it's like 40 something
degrees Celsius.

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I think it's going to be close
to the the record day and that's

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around 44 I believe.
Oh, my goodness.

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Yeah, I have.
Well, I have Sarah in Greece,

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but I also have on the mainland,
I have my head of operations in

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my company is in Greece as well.
And he was telling me yesterday

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it got to 43 I think, which was
also.

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Yeah, I guess it depends where
you are and that.

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You're.
You're in the middle of the city

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and.
You're in a.

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Couple of tall buildings, but
there's no way it's going to get

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up there, you know?
Yeah.

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Yes, Sarah was telling me this
morning she was on her 4th

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shower, you know, because I
don't think she has air

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conditioning in her house so.
I'm in my house, so I'll just

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sweat my way through it.
There's no way I'm having four

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showers a day.
No, no kidding.

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Do you have AC though?
Oh yeah, yeah.

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You know, we, Nana, my partner,
we, she had a place here, an

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apartment that she did up and
it's all AC in every room,

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individually controlled.
We and then I bought the

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apartment above and I put AC in
every room.

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So we have pretty much American
style AC in our apartments here,

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so.
That's nice, you know, comes in

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handy.
It's, it's just a, a lovely 24°,

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Break free from the status quo.
So you know, first, I appreciate

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you coming and doing this.
Like it it it's crazy that when

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we scheduled this, Ozzy was
alive and well and it made sense

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to come on and just talk about
how the like.

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I really just wanted to talk to
you about the challenges of

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putting such a show together and
the emotions of that show and

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and just how cool it was and all
of that stuff.

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Not that this was his final
goodbye, because, you know, that

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happened very quickly,
obviously.

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Oh yeah.
I mean, like as the tour, let's

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go back to the beginning and
then yeah, of how this came

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about.
Yeah, please, because I would.

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I've been very curious about
that, how long it took to put it

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together and stuff.
My friend Opie Dale Schersef,

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who's been, you know, done more
Oz Fest than I've had hot

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dinners and has done a couple of
black saboteurs.

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Naturally, Sharon and reached
out to to him to see what he

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could do, if he would be
interested in doing it.

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And at that time he was
committed to ACDC and GNR and

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also that he does The Rolling
Stones.

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So he didn't have enough time.
So he called me on one day and

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go listen, Sharon's putting this
show together.

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Would you be interested in doing
it?

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And he he's, you know, explained
a a couple of bit and I go

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fucking a I'm ready, you know?
No kidding.

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Yeah, this was our ear.
This was my ear of of being a

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production manager on the road
with all of these bands.

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So and then, you know, Sharon
emailed me.

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She goes, Jake, I hear you can
do it.

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And I go, yes, I'm ready.
And we had a couple of

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conversations and then, you
know, Live Nation UK were

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involved like Andy, Andy
Chopping was booking all the

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artists that a lot lined up and
Max Burnham was like their their

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production guy, you know, from
Live Nation.

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And he called me up and and I
really don't think we knew just

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the magnitude of this show and
what it was going to be.

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This is.
A snowball, didn't it?

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This was going to be a farewell
show in Aston and then you know,

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with a couple of people like
Greg Price, who is long time

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Aussie sound manager, etcetera,
etcetera, a sound designer and

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everything.
We got on the phone and I said

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great, you can you can help me
put the sound together.

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Yeah.
And then all of a sudden it but.

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One second, Jake, how long ago
was it that that Sharon called

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you or that Opie called you
saying we're putting this thing

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together?
I I got to believe it's around

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the beginning of March.
OK, so a few months.

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So then you know that we got in

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the outdoor process and you
know, we got these bands and who

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started to contact the bands.
And also we were playing Villa

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Park and we were part of we were
the third of the four show run

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with, you know, GNR were playing
there and then Chris Brown

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played and then it was back to
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Lamar and we all played on the
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No time for a custom stage.
I mean, every staging company in

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the world really wanted to do
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maybe somebody had good
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be what it was putting together.
So Patrick Woodruff, Terry Cook

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from Woodruff Bassett Designs,
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and of course Patrick, one of
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Course.
Lighting designers and we

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started to speak about it and,
and you go, what do we do?

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What are we going to do?
And I said, you know what?

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It's it's a bit like, you know,
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Hard Rock, I always get like,
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know, because that's what it is
most of the time.

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And I go, let's do sound, lights
and video, nothing else.

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Yeah.
So we did.

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We did that.
We got the show.

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Tom Morello.
By nothing else you mean like no

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pyro, no lasers?
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know, some, some other bands
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pyro from any other band.
We just did pyro as a salute to

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the end of the show and to the
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Black Sabbath.
And with a confetti shot.

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You know what?
I'm saying goodbye from Black

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Sabbath as we did on Aussie,
saying goodbye from Aussie.

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So we had two shots, So and then
everybody was told, you know,

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everybody, all the bands came
for expenses.

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Nobody.
Wow, you know I.

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Didn't know that.
No, it was we agreed that if we

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could do expenses and we would
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that it would all go down as a
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Wow.
So you know, we we had a back

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line rental company and a riser
company and I am going to

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mention everybody's name because
they played please take your

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part.
And Paul Collis, who runs STS,

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which is the backline riser
company, was the first guy

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through like nation to call me
goes anything I own backline or

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risers I will give for free.
I will only charge labour and if

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I have to sub rent.
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And then we got all all the
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screen works, see and creative
technology video and Claire sign

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and with Britt Rowe, we just
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We asked them to give something
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everybody did.
You know, it wasn't a single

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moan or don't give us something
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Just give us a big that's
unbelievable.

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And that kind of happened in a
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total way.
And so then we had this show we

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started put together.
And as I went back to Tom-tom

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Morano goes, I want to have,
we've got 16 or 17 bands and

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we're going to start at 11:00 in
the morning and we're going to

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finish at 10.
So we put 6 not knowing all of

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it and, and I goes, I only want
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So then we, he goes, you know,
he looked at the Taylor Hawkins

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thing, which was, oh, we had a
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So I investigated A turntable
and you know, sometimes I didn't

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know if it's the right thing to
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In the end, it certainly was,
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That you could set up two sets
of of back line, basically 2

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bands, yeah.
And you know, then, like I say,

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Patrick and Terry Cook designed
the lights, which was basically

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straight trusses, yeah, you
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And it was great because we.
Just a really great rock'n'roll

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lighting show, you know it was.
Great.

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And you know.
Came in and did programming.

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Yeah, it wasn't fancy, you know,
We could send them files.

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It was simple because we did not
have the time for three bits or

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everything like that.
No, that's brilliant.

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Bands like Slayer, Anthrax,
Mastomon and And Goes Here to

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name a few and Guns all had
shows either the night before

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the show or like in the case of
some had a show on the 3rd where

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they come in.
We sound checked on the 4th and

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played on the 5th and then they
left for a show on the 6th.

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So we were squeezing some
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Some had conflicts, you know,
and then on top of that, we had

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a whole bunch of solo artists
and some of the solo artists,

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you know, Steven Tyler, you
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came with a a little Steven
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So you spoke to like somebody in
production or you spoke to

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management and you just informed
Steven management and things

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what was going on.
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morning or actually the night of
Sanchez.

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So we go, oh, Ronnie Wood's
coming.

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Wow.
You know, so all of a sudden we

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got to find a room for Ronnie
Wood.

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We had 41 dressing rooms in
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Jesus.
Wow.

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And they were fantastic because
they cleaned out their offices

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and we gave us all the spaces.
And the best thing was that I

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gave Tony and Geezer the Aston
Villa home football.

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Oh wow, they had to love that.
Geezer is a die hard Villa fan.

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So everybody comes in, you know,
we're going to put pipe and

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drapes.
I said no, we're going to leave

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the Aston Villa lockers up in
the colours and he's gonna and

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then we gotta, you know, they
have all the players names above

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their boxes.
So we put Geezer Butler 7 in

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there, put a shirt in, and just
those little things like that

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made his old, old day, you know?
That is so cool.

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So.
How hard was it for Sharon to

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get that venue?
Or was it easy?

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Like you said, there were shows
on either end or whatever, but

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was that a big challenge?
It's.

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Hard to get the venue because
Live Nation already had that

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block of three shows and I think
there was space in between, you

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know, don't forget that we had
the show Chris Brown finished

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and Chris Brown never had
delayed hours in for the sound.

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And also we had to, we had to
build VIP decks if you saw in

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the video left and right of the
stage above it and then we had

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to insert the turntable.
So it was ES ESG Global that did

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the stage.
So after Chris Brown finished,

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then you start 2 days of stage
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So that was like the 27th and
the 28th.

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We did stage alterations and
then we had to clean out some of

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the offices and start doing all
the dressing rooms and you know,

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and then the catering room with
they had for the other shows way

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too small.
So then we had to build a tent

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in the background and then we
had to build a media tent for

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the world media because and then
we had to build a an Aussie and

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A and a place where agents can
hang hospitality room, which was

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in the villas, the villa fan
zone that they use for soccer

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games.
And like I say, villa gave us

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everything.
And actually, in fact, the

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hospitality room was so good
that the people from, you know,

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it had pictures of Aussie and
all the Sabbath banning in on.

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They put mirror pictures over
the windows.

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Really.
They took all the pillars and

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made it look like trees with
carving out like Black Sabbath.

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I love Black Sabbath like people
have been carving in trees.

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That's cool then.
They go, well, we're going to

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keep this to the start of the
season.

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So I think if you go and see an
Aston Villa home soccer game,

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you may well see a Black
Sabbath.

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Ozio for hospitality.
Really cool, Really cool.

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So wow, to turn the dress rooms
around and luckily, you know,

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our, our, our, our team George
and Kim Davenport from eat your

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Hearts Out and lovely things did
all the dress rooms.

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And then all of a sudden we
start getting riders in.

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And some of the riders were, you
know, if they were playing a

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headline show.
So we went back to all the bands

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and, and George and I, George,
she's Kim's daughter, head of

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dress rooms.
We decided that there would be a

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generic dressing room except for
G&R, Metallica, Ozzy and

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Sabbath.
You know, so it was if you had

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because they gave us all the
boxes.

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And so it was a general thing of
either A2 seater couch, 4

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chairs, a coffee table and a
table and a fridge.

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Yeah, that was it.
Yeah.

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We put pipe and drape over the
window.

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So hide the stage.
We didn't put any pipe and drape

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on the walls, you know, And some
people, oh, you know, we need

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this and not that.
And, you know, and I said to one

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man, I'll put all your furniture
in, but don't come to me asking

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for a dresser and put the band
because you'll have no room

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there.
And and sometimes we just, I

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wouldn't say ignored, they go,
oh, yeah, we want this.

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Yeah, great.
We'll get it and never put it

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in.
Yeah.

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And nobody said a word.
Nobody said a word.

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There were no like prima Donna
moments.

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It was fantastic the.
I love that.

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If you caught the atmosphere on
the TV, you had no idea what the

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atmosphere and the vibe was
backstage, you know, and, and

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for me, I knew a lot of the
bands, so it was great seeing

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him.
I knew a lot of the crews.

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It was, it was a celebration for
the bands.

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It was a tribute to Ozzy and
also was a bit of a homecoming

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for for a lot of Rd. crews
hanging out, you know, doing

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everything.
You know, they didn't say, oh,

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I'm the Metallica guy.
I'll do this and I'm the Guns

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and Roses guy will do this.
Like ski and and Gino and and

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John Mulder, all them people.
What can we do to help?

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You know, it was accurate.
So, you know, all all the way

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around and and not one, you
know, every star they had to

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share a bathroom, which is big
for a lot of stars, you know,

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because they get a locker room,
their own bathroom.

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Nobody said a thing.
Couple of the management goes,

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you know, the the guys don't
want to share a bathroom and go

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well, don't come then and nobody
said anything.

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Nobody said anything.
So.

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You know, it's almost like they
knew, you know, because I mean,

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how would, if you did say
something or if you did cancel

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because you couldn't get your
own bathrooms or something, how

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would you feel today?
You know what I mean?

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Like a couple weeks like an
asshole.

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Exactly.
Exactly.

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You were there for one reason.
Yeah, they were.

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There, that's amazing.
They were there to pay tribute

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to Black Sabbath and to Ozzy
Osbourne for Jane Hetfield.

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If there was no Black Sabbath,
there'd be no Metallica.

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Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty
bold statement.

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That is a bold statement.
They were all there just to and

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nobody had a problem.
You know, TomTom Morello and his

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assistant Francis did an amazing
job of coordinating all the

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artists.
Francis would get them, we'd get

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their schedules.
We'd try to fit them in a

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rehearsal.
You know, some people, my plan

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doesn't.
My plane doesn't land till

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three.
You know, I'm coming in from LA

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and I'm landing at London and
we're two hours away and, you

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know, can I?
And they would come in off the

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plane, off A2 car ride, straight
into rehearsals.

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Jesus and.
That's wild.

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So, you know, and I saw Couch
and everybody there and

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everybody.
Our rehearsals were amazing.

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I.
I can't even imagine.

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I would go and sneak a peek and
just before we get, you know,

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you would sneak a peek and you
would go in there and there's KK

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down in Nuno Betancourt, Andy
Smith, Billy Corrigan and Tom

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Morello and they're doing Park
at the Moon and they're all in

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the front doing, you know, the,
the juice unreal metal guitar

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thing.
And the smiles were this wide.

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Yeah, Unreal.
I.

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Had the I had the luck or the
time we'd expert is I went and

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heard first of all the young
blood version of changes.

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That was amazing.
Everybody just stood there in

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silence.
I just got goosebumps when you

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said that because I that was,
that was memorable.

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That was a moment.
I actually think, personally, I

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think that young blood is the
new Freddie Mercury.

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He's incredible.
He's he's incredible.

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He's a talented dude.
The.

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First time they played it, the
rehearsals, Marcel, I have to

445
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,960
tell you, I thought it was
better than rehearsals and it

446
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,680
was live and it was amazing
live.

447
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,840
I guess it's the first time we
heard it.

448
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,280
And he walked in, grabbed the
microphone, went up to, you

449
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,600
know, of cute people, and they
go, OK, I've got it, I've been

450
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,520
rehearsing.
And he went right in and he

451
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080
nailed it.
Wow, unreal.

452
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,600
Sensational.
Yeah, I thought Steven Tyler

453
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,600
sounded amazing too, like him
and Nuno, and that was

454
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,480
incredible.
Like there were just so many

455
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,280
moments.
But so Tom was the musical

456
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,000
director.
Was that his title, basically?

457
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,520
And.
Musical director, artist,

458
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,920
artist, Wrangler.
I think he's, but I think near

459
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,360
the day, you know, it was very
mellow.

460
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:49,680
Then all of a sudden, about two
weeks before, you know,

461
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,680
organizing, you know, Villa is a
very compact stadium.

462
00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,400
Yeah.
So we had to, you know, we had a

463
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
lot of bands coming in.
I had trucks.

464
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:03,000
We had a lot of bands.
I had buses, yeah.

465
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,240
A lot of artists that led a lot
of ground transportation.

466
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,920
So yeah, I reached out to my
friend Ian Massey at Beat the

467
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,040
Street and then go right, you're
in charge of artist ground

468
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,160
transportation.
And even if they're your clients

469
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,680
or not their clients, I want you
to take charge.

470
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:25,240
And he did.
And you know, we had like 8080

471
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,960
artist vehicles with their
Vianos or, or cars and, and

472
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,600
everything like that.
And a couple of them, you know,

473
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,520
like, and I'll mention a kind
of, you know, Andy, the drummer

474
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,880
from Sleep Token and he had
nobody.

475
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,480
So I was speaking to call, we
were emailing direct and what I

476
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,760
said, what a, what a pleasure,
what a nice guy.

477
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280
And he goes, Jake, where can I
park?

478
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,040
I'm bringing out my own car.
So you made arrangement.

479
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640
I said, here's Ian's phone
number, call him.

480
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,720
He came up, he said, look, I'm
going to and Ian goes, how long

481
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,320
would you leave?
And he goes, I'm staying for the

482
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,640
whole fucking thing.
Not a problem.

483
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280
He went around and thanked
everybody and, you know,

484
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,320
amazing.
That's awesome.

485
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,600
That is so cool.
No, no entourage joined in, you

486
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,840
know, And a great guy and a
super drummer.

487
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,720
We had some drummers there.
Yeah, you really did well, Bill

488
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,520
Ward.
I mean, just seeing Bill Ward,

489
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,360
you know, after 20 plus.
Years.

490
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,360
Yeah.
Bill's a bit like a Charlie

491
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,520
Watts type thing.
He's jazz influenced a little

492
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,560
bit.
In the Super groups, we had some

493
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,960
heavy hitters.
I don't know anybody that hits

494
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240
the drums harder than Mike
Borden that used to be at Faith

495
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,960
No More.
Yeah, he makes the whole drums

496
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
and riser shakes and.
Yeah, he was awesome.

497
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,520
Chad Smith can really pan the
drums so.

498
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,840
Chad was amazing.
Chad was so good.

499
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,640
Like they were a little bit lost
in that one song and I forget

500
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,520
which song it was, but he kept
looking and going, OK, what part

501
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:53,840
are we doing now?
You know?

502
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,200
And he, he was kind of the
conductor and really did a great

503
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,680
job.
There was some hitters, yeah.

504
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,760
But look, you know, kudos to Tom
Morello.

505
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640
I'm a fantastic job, Fantastic,
great guy.

506
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,800
Patience of the Saint sometimes.
Yeah.

507
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,240
How'd that come together though?
Like, why him?

508
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,520
And does he have a relationship
with Sharon somehow?

509
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,440
I.
Don't think so.

510
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,240
That was that was before me.
Tom was there long before.

511
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Oh, OK, OK.
Yeah, that because that was

512
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,160
interesting.
I was like, oh, that's neat.

513
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,400
You know, Tom Morello.
OK, but So what?

514
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,720
What?
How many artists were there?

515
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,120
Like individual artists?
Do you know what number of?

516
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,560
I can't give you an honest
answer about, you know, there

517
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,960
had to be 30 individuals plus
the bands or you know, like 18

518
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,720
plus the bands.
I think something like that.

519
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,920
Yeah, I mean.
Just for instance on on show day

520
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,440
in catering your heart side fed
up 1100 people.

521
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,280
What?
That is wild 1100 people.

522
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,320
And don't forget that's going
all day, you know, from

523
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,000
breakfast in the morning,
because on the morning of the

524
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,360
show we had to sound check
Gojira and GNR with the doors

525
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,280
opening at 11.
Jesus.

526
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,560
Gojira, you know, all of them,
they showed up at 8:00, they

527
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,880
played from 8 like 8:30 to 9:30
and then we did a quick turn

528
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,920
around for guns and they went
from, we gave them from 10:50

529
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,080
and 11:00 we opened the door.
So I, you know, I asked Slash

530
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080
afterwards actually, hey, can
you finish at quarter 2?

531
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,120
They ran through the set, they
go, we're done.

532
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,280
Nice.
And I will say, you know, Guns

533
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,280
have a new drummer.
Oh, I didn't know that.

534
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,960
Well, boy, did he inflict some
energy into that band.

535
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,760
Who is he?
I'll get to you at the end of

536
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:58,760
it, I can't remember.
His name.

537
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,240
That's all right, that's all
right.

538
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,960
I'm just curious.
Guns and Roses was like an

539
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,080
injection of B. 12 interesting
fantastic that's one of the

540
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,960
really cool things with a lot of
these older bands some of them

541
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,320
like Foreigner who are all no
original members but but as you

542
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,440
see new members getting inserted
into some of these bands it does

543
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,360
breathe new life into them it
does you know extend the life of

544
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,320
the band because.
You know, I thought, you know,

545
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
everybody had a little down on
Axel.

546
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,520
I thought Axel was fantastic.
I thought played a great set,

547
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840
you know?
You know, and everybody says

548
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,520
that Axel's difficult.
He's not.

549
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160
He's just a really good guy, you
know?

550
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,480
And I've known GNR since they
supported Mötley Crüe.

551
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,160
And that would have been that's
a while ago. 30 years ago, maybe

552
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
30 years ago.
So there's a little bit of he's.

553
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Had some moments that I think
have earned him the title, you

554
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,040
know?
Really hard to get rid of those

555
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,520
moments.
Yeah, Yeah, he has.

556
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,320
He.
Was five.

557
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360
He was 10 minutes early because
we were, you know, we were

558
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,560
running ahead of schedule.
Yeah.

559
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,320
So, you know, and then, you
know, Oz goes, I don't want to

560
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,320
go on stage until my allotted
time and I go, OK, fair enough.

561
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,320
Because once we got to Aussie,
we know if the turntable broke

562
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,920
down, if the screen didn't lift
up, we could do the set change

563
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,360
and still make it was like, I
think when we got to Metallica

564
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,760
and G&R, Metallica, the home
run, the four band, that's when

565
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,800
we knew we'd nailed it.
Yeah, you know.

566
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,680
That is so frigging cool and.
And then you go back to the

567
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,360
beginning at the rehearsals and
you talked about Aussie at at

568
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,720
rehearsal studio.
We, we went to a small studio

569
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,200
called Angelic Studios.
And it was a very small room

570
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,680
about maybe a little bit bigger
than my bedroom here.

571
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,000
And we put 4 Sabbath in there
and, and like, and then Bill,

572
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Bill came in on the set up day
because I think Bill was, was

573
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,560
nervous and you know, I just
think he wanted to soak off the

574
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,560
atmosphere because he hasn't
done it for so long.

575
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,040
And then, you know, Thomas the
Torre Manchai, you go, Jake,

576
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,679
what time do you want the band?
They go what time they want to

577
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:20,880
come in.
So they're early morning people.

578
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,320
So the band came in 11.
Bill would come in at 10 and

579
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400
tinker.
And then on, on the the first

580
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,280
day, it was the, you know, the
Tony Geezer and Bill.

581
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,719
And we did two days with them
getting used to being with Bill.

582
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,960
And then Oz came in and, and
then, you know, they did

583
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,920
rehearsal it also, I must admit
that in the control room, they

584
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,320
all sat down and there's four of
them on a couch and you're

585
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,159
seeing the original Black
Sabbath boy, you know, you're

586
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,960
the hairs on the.
Armours.

587
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,720
And you know, I, I said hi, I'm
all sorry.

588
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,920
Hi, boss, how are you?
And then they went in and they

589
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,960
would run through the set and
Oz, you know, they, they played

590
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,160
four songs.
We would run through the set.

591
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,160
And how do you feel?
Also, I'm good.

592
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,520
And then he used to run through
it.

593
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680
They used to talk about old time
sitting accounts and they would

594
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,160
leave.
I mean, we were never there any

595
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,200
later than 4:00 in the
afternoon.

596
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Where were rehearsals?
We did Angelic Studios with a

597
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,720
band and then the next step up
we went to Fly By Night, which

598
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:39,040
is Redditch or something like
that, which is, you know, 40

599
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,840
minutes from Birmingham.
And of course all the guys have

600
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
got houses around that area
being in the Midlands.

601
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,600
So, and then what I did in in,
in there, because it's a fully

602
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,040
fledged rehearsal studio, like,
you know, 200 by 130 or

603
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,000
something like that.
So we marked out the turntable

604
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:08,160
and we put a curtain up for the
the the separation and we set

605
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,440
Black Sabbath on one side and
Ozzy Osbourne on the other side.

606
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,000
Ozzy's fan.
So, you know, we never rehearsed

607
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,360
the same day, but also, you
know, we put the monitors on the

608
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,880
through like we would have done
on the show.

609
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,000
We put the side fills in the
right position at the right

610
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,920
width.
And they got used to playing on

611
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,120
the space on the stage, which I
think was very important.

612
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,760
They got to know everything and
they must know.

613
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,560
We never changed anything.
Yeah, we did change a couple of

614
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,880
things, but like we moved the
monitors further downstage and,

615
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,400
and Miles, the monitor goggles.
Well, normally they've had the

616
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,560
monitors here.
I said Miles.

617
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,440
That was in 2018.
I don't think they'll remember

618
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,760
after seven years.
Start with them downstage.

619
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,080
And we did.
And nobody said anything.

620
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,640
And then we, we marked out where
Ozzie's left would be.

621
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,280
And then we'd get the music, you
know, the, the opening, Carmine

622
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,400
has it.
And then we rehearsed and, and

623
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,320
Dave, Ozzy's assistant, we, we'd
have the chair and we'd do 20

624
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,680
seconds and then the lift is
coming up.

625
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040
We time that and another 20
seconds.

626
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,320
Then you know, it's nothing.
There was nothing automated.

627
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,640
He pulled the chair back into
positions.

628
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,600
We got the mic off.
Ozzy sang.

629
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,720
It was, you know, we wanted to
create changes that were 1980s

630
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,280
that were none of this shit was
around.

631
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,680
So it was see a couple of people
on stage crouched out of black,

632
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,920
you know, because they all think
nobody will see them.

633
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,160
But you know.
I saw them, you know, that

634
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,760
chair.
Was that was that an original

635
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,400
thing or did that exist?
It came from the Rock and Roll

636
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,200
Hall of Fame induction the year
before.

637
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:54,120
Oh, OK.
It was built for that, so it

638
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,120
existed.
And then, you know, Sharon would

639
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,720
go, Jake, we want the chair.
How do we make Aussie here feel?

640
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:02,560
I said, I'll put a lift in.
Great.

641
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,520
And then I said, we'll put a
lift in and then we'll take him

642
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520
down to the end of the set.
And then during the set, Aussie

643
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,360
says to me, Jake, I ain't going
down.

644
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,680
No fucking lift.
OK, So we have to figure out how

645
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,920
to get him off.
So I said, how about if we you

646
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,320
wait a bit?
So cop the applause and then

647
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,840
we'll turn the turntable.
And that's why everybody thought

648
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,800
that the Black Sabbath guys left
Ozzy on their own.

649
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,400
They didn't.
We were waiting for Sabbath to

650
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,720
get off to get the cables away
so we could turn the stage and

651
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,560
take him.
Back I wondered about that too.

652
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,760
I was like, what did they just
do there?

653
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,640
Yeah, because he seemed like he
was sitting on his own and.

654
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120
And the band abandoned him.
The band never left.

655
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,160
No, nobody abandoned him.
That that was always planned.

656
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,040
Interesting.
But also, you know, the 15

657
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,040
second it takes in rehearsals is
is not 15 seconds.

658
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,960
The 15 seconds in the show seems
like an hour.

659
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,520
Yeah, Yeah.
So what were some of the biggest

660
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,520
challenges outside all the
obvious?

661
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,400
Like, you know, to me, I never
thought of the logistics of all

662
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,400
the people, all the artists
getting there and parking

663
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,560
vehicles and having vehicles and
all that stuff.

664
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,560
I never even thought of that, or
even just dressing rooms for

665
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040
that many people.
I never thought of those things.

666
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
But outside of that, what were
some of the bigger challenges

667
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:33,520
for you?
Well, I, I, I don't know, you

668
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,360
know, I had more challenges on
360 U2 for sure, right.

669
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,600
You know, it says we had a very
basic stage with a very basic

670
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,200
lighting rig and then we had a
very basic sound system.

671
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,760
I mean, what wasn't basic about
the audio was the number of

672
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,280
inputs, the number of bands
bringing in consoles, the number

673
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,920
of consoles we had.
I think when we started the

674
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,840
show, it was like 9 monitor
consoles and then the patching

675
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,480
of everything, which we got a
lot done on the sound check the

676
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,640
day before with a lot of bands,
you know, and I had a little

677
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,360
talk to the crew.
I got great, amazing job.

678
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,440
You've had an hour to set the
bands up now tomorrow you do it

679
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,600
in 10 minutes.
Not a problem, Jake.

680
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,960
We'll we've got this.
And also I would imagine, you

681
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,280
know, our, our, our and and Paul
who run the Pete, I'm sorry, who

682
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,760
run the sound group.
Great job.

683
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,360
They all did amazing job.
RF was a big challenge over 200

684
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,960
frequencies we needed.
So, you know, and then I mean

685
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
lighting and programming,
getting all the acts together,

686
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,200
you know, programming and
setting up some things in

687
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,920
getting that was all handled by,
you know, Terry Cook.

688
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,120
And then, you know, comms and
radios and that and the audio

689
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:57,400
came from Brit Rowe and you
know, they did an amazing job

690
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,120
and not only were we doing the
show, but don't forget we were

691
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,280
also doing rehearsals at the
same time.

692
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,160
We were sound checking bands and
doing rehearsals.

693
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,160
So the the getting of equipment
from one side to the other and

694
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,840
we realized that we couldn't get
a semi around, so we had to go

695
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,560
and get a small van to keep
bringing stuff back and forth.

696
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,360
Did you?
Have to run personally back and

697
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,880
forth to rehearsals or were you
at the venue the whole time?

698
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,800
One of my state, I had two, I
had three stage managers.

699
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,280
OK.
Sean Robinson handled the main

700
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,000
turntable because I've known
Sean for a long time.

701
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,800
I love work of them.
Calm demeanor.

702
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,440
And also he's done a couple of
Jingle Ball tours where they use

703
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,440
the turntable.
So he was pretty on on song with

704
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,320
that.
And then I had Aaron Siegler,

705
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,880
who does a lot of the the K pop
stuff.

706
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:52,240
And then a guy called Joe
Hanley, who does a lot of stuff

707
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,560
for me in the electronic world
at EDC.

708
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,840
And you know, Joe came up to me,
man.

709
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,640
He goes and he's a he's he's a
Hard Rock, heavy metal fan.

710
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,840
Man.
I would love to see Sabbath,

711
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Aussie and Pantera.
I go great.

712
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,440
You want to be a stage manager?
You want to come and do the show

713
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,040
go Well, I don't know if I've
ever done it.

714
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,320
I go do you want to see the
show?

715
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,640
You go, yeah, we'll come and
work it then and then good

716
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,400
fortune.
When Aussie said I want to get

717
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,880
my phone gun, it was broken.
No better guy than Joe Hanley to

718
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,680
fix it.
So, you know, and, and when you

719
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,480
put a plan together and your
sound lights, video and stage

720
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:36,280
crew all get on board with it
and, and they do what's inside

721
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,960
your head and they carry it out.
I, I wouldn't say it was easy.

722
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,280
It's, it's a little stressful
and nerve racking.

723
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,440
I mean, the night before I'm
going, how the fuck are we going

724
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,320
to do this?
Now?

725
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,840
There's a lot, there was a
little bit of nerves and I

726
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,080
thought, yeah, you know, we'll
do it.

727
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,600
And we went there and you know,
as soon as like GR finished and

728
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,200
we opened the doors and we first
went into right Mastodon to

729
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,240
rival Son or the other way
around.

730
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,520
I threw Mastodon and I put the
first set change at 7 minutes

731
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,720
because we'd already sound
checked both bands.

732
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,240
The object in 10 minutes was 3
minutes to turn it around.

733
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,560
And then you had 7 minutes on
the front going tap through the

734
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,480
kit to make doubly sure, even
though you were line check

735
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,280
behind the stage.
I'm honored, guy.

736
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,880
Quick.
Hello, 1212.

737
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Couple of strums on the guitar
here.

738
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,960
You go wow, because that's got
to be mayhem.

739
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,760
Just all the patching and stuff,
making sure you don't, you know,

740
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,560
plug a guitar into a drum
channel or something, you know?

741
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,560
We had a company called Ginger
Owl, which is in the UK and they

742
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,840
handled all the logistics of
getting, you know, we hired 2

743
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,880
vans to get the solo artist
because we didn't want them come

744
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,280
in their own cars.
You know, someone goes, I'll

745
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,680
take an Uber there, we're going
to get them dropped the wrong

746
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600
end of the stadium.
So we organized transportation

747
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,360
and don't forget there was a lot
of hotels involved.

748
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,120
You know, so and Jinjao, they
kind of did the accreditation

749
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,960
and then they, they supplied for
me artist liaison that would be

750
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,920
down there giving them, look,
we're 10 minutes early.

751
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,400
Come on, we need to go to the
stage now.

752
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,800
Not, not anyone said we're not
coming now.

753
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,960
They all came up and you know,
what if they waited on the side

754
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,920
of the stage for 5 minutes?
So they waited their backstage.

755
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,960
There was always another artist
they could talk to or they

756
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,640
hadn't seen in a few years.
So where everybody was on, it

757
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,560
was like a welcoming party.
No, welcome to the stage

758
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,960
manager.
I haven't seen you in years.

759
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,360
Remember the time?
There was a lot of that.

760
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,160
The vibe there was incredible.
And then after the show,

761
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,040
somebody asked me, Jake, what
was the show like?

762
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,080
And I said 2 words.
I said it was fucking epic.

763
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Wow, Epic.
Well, and for a guy that's done

764
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,280
what you've done, that's that's
obviously a big statement.

765
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,400
Look at the smile on my face
when I'm.

766
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,640
Talking.
Yeah, I know.

767
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,360
I know.
You said it to me the other day.

768
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,320
You said if I retired today, you
know, I'd be happy.

769
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,080
I'm happy, you know.
Maybe, maybe people might think

770
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,720
about twice about hiring an old
man, but I after that show the

771
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:15,400
old man still got it in him I
think.

772
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,160
No kidding.
Yeah, well, I mean, you swing a

773
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,200
big stick, but that's for sure.
I think when when Jake yells at

774
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,240
you, you know something needs to
get done pretty quickly.

775
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,080
I didn't yell at anybody there.
Yeah, there was no yelling.

776
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,280
The only yelling you would hear
from Sean go turntable moving

777
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,080
and that would be it.
Yeah.

778
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,080
And everybody got in and, you
know, everybody, you know,

779
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,320
especially the Sabbath guys who
were there for a long time and

780
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,280
had to move their equipment a
couple of times.

781
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:45,960
He said well let's bring your
cables up through the center.

782
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,440
Well, I've always had him here.
Bring him off through the

783
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,480
centre.
We can roll.

784
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:51,480
And they all went robe with the
punches.

785
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,600
You know, it was good.
Yeah, it sounds like it was a

786
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,600
big love fest.
I mean, that's kind of what it

787
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,880
looked like when you when you
watched it too.

788
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:05,840
Yeah, and then, you know, the
show went down, you know Oz and

789
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,120
a huge smile on his face.
He was exhausted, but he was

790
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
happy.
And then you know for him his

791
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,160
daughter being proposed to by 6.
That was wild.

792
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,280
You know, and then.
You told me about that clip the

793
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,960
other day.
I hadn't seen it and I went and

794
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,000
looked it up on YouTube and it
was hilarious.

795
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:22,920
You ain't fucking marrying my
daughter.

796
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,600
It's.
It's pure Ozzy Osbourne.

797
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,880
That was hilarious.
Yeah, Look at Sharon.

798
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,200
Look at Ozzy and you know Kelly
and Jack and Ozzy and Sharon

799
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,080
especially.
You know the the Kardashians owe

800
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,400
millions because they were the
creators of reality.

801
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,080
Of course there's nothing like
that show.

802
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,560
I mean, that show was the best
television ever done.

803
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,080
I think, you know, it was just
incredible.

804
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,800
It was incredible.
The famous line, Sharon, you

805
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,400
know.
Yeah, yeah, Well, I saw a clip

806
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,160
yesterday or something.
I've been going down memory lane

807
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,880
with Ozzie this week, of course,
but I saw a clip yesterday of

808
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,680
him sitting on the couch.
He's got like this fancy new

809
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,040
Crestron system or something in
his house and he's trying to

810
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,560
figure out how to turn on the
television and he's just

811
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,200
clicking it and cursing like
crazy and he's like, Jack, come

812
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:17,960
turn on the fucking television.
Please I.

813
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,920
Mean you can't figure out how to
do it.

814
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680
You know, new Aussie, that was
Aussie.

815
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,760
I mean, yeah, look at the look
at the tributes, like Elton

816
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,200
John, the funniest guy I ever
met.

817
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,080
Yeah, Aussie was natural.
And As for the Black Sabbath

818
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,840
guys, I think it's way the way
they brought up.

819
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,520
They weren't gifted anything.
Yeah, you know, and and it's

820
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:47,360
they've remained, I'm not going
to word humble, but normal

821
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,560
people.
I mean, Tony and Geez are the

822
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,160
most wicked sense of humor you'd
ever want to be.

823
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Around.
I mean, they could.

824
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,120
Why Tony Iommi could wind
anybody up and keep a straight

825
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,880
face.
That's hilarious.

826
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,560
I know I've.
Been wound up by him.

827
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:08,120
You know, one of the things that
tells you how special Ozzie was,

828
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,080
like we've lost some incredible
artists in the past few years,

829
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,960
you know, and everyone gets a
lot of messages and a lot of

830
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,000
posts on social media and stuff.
But Ozzy, it's been non-stop for

831
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,120
the past couple of days.
non-stop, like from everyone,

832
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,680
every artist out there sending
messages and stuff.

833
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,160
And some of them are just
unbelievable.

834
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Like the tributes to him and
that guy meant a lot.

835
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,520
He really meant a lot to heavy
metal, rock'n'roll, you know,

836
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,320
live, touring, whatever it is,
you know, he just an incredible

837
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,840
man.
Ozzy lived a life like a cat.

838
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,440
He had 9 lives.
Yeah, yeah.

839
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,280
You know.
What made however famous,

840
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:57,040
however intoxicated, however
high he was, however things he

841
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,840
done, the things that he
maintained throughout his life,

842
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,000
was normality.
You know, Sharon and Ozzy not

843
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,240
afraid to talk about their
relationship and and the trials

844
00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:11,120
and the tribulations and yeah.
And if you go back to some of

845
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,920
the, you know, there's a show
called Parkinson in the UK,

846
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,760
believe it or not, Unfortunately
that's the right title.

847
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,760
But and you go back and look at
that interview.

848
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,600
I mean, it's hilarious.
It's comedy hour and it's and

849
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,200
people are just.
Which interview is that, Jake?

850
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000
It's a.
Show called Parkinson, Michael

851
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,360
Parkinson.
OK.

852
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,960
And there's some great clips I
was watching this morning, you

853
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,680
know, when I was waiting for
something for America to wake up

854
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,320
because I was up earlier.
And I go back to some of the

855
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,520
Howard Stern stuff.
It's fantastic.

856
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Oh my God, that the one that I
remember a couple of Ozzy Howard

857
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,480
Stern ones, the one when they
went to Japan and Sharon went

858
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,760
back to the Ozzy said let's go
out and have a few drinks with

859
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,000
the boys.
And Sharon said no, I'm tired.

860
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,240
I'm going to go to the hotel.
I'll see you later.

861
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:04,680
And he goes out, gets all messed
up and goes back to the hotel,

862
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,480
brings a couple of nice little
Japanese girls with him and

863
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,400
finds his way into the room
somehow.

864
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,720
And Sharon goes, Ozzy, what the
fuck are you doing?

865
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,760
And he goes, oh, I forgot you
were here.

866
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,160
He forgot that he brought Sharon
with him on the trip, right?

867
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,920
And.
So yeah, you live on, you know,

868
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,640
man.
But you know, and let's, you

869
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,600
know, focus on the most, one of
the most important thing is how

870
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,400
much money it raised for what.
Was it 190 million right?

871
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,040
You know, I, I don't know the
figures I mean.

872
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,240
It raised, that's what she said,
A. 100 and 2190 to 140, but you

873
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:45,560
want to put it in context.
The original Live Aid raised 100

874
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,120
million.
Wow, really?

875
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Facing 140 to 150 million, you
know, on the May they raised

876
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,840
more, but on the impact the
first month or something.

877
00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:01,400
This was.
This was, this was as big as the

878
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,800
Live Aid shows, not in two
places at the same time, I may

879
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,600
add, but you know, the same sort
of technology to get it

880
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,800
broadcast, you know, and then
you go, what, what's your

881
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,480
biggest challenge?
We had to find some of the park

882
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,080
broadcast trucks and, you know,
we had our we had our own backup

883
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,720
recording studio from Diablo and
we had everything covered.

884
00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:29,480
We had backups after backups,
and you know that once they knew

885
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,560
it was going live, a lot of
bands wanted to bring their

886
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,840
record producer to make sure
it's good.

887
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,720
So the guy from the truck goes,
he goes, You got any problems

888
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:38,600
with the truck?
I go, yeah, you know, how many

889
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,560
producers can you sit in there
at one time?

890
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,600
Everybody came out.
We took the recording truck to

891
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,640
rehearsal for Sabbath and
Aussie, so we got some basic

892
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,400
things down and a lot of people
had sound checks, so we got

893
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:58,480
basic sounds down for the show.
Interesting.

894
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,360
So it's just so incredible how
it all ended up working out.

895
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,040
I mean, not in a good way.
Obviously Ozzy's passed away,

896
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:12,040
but it couldn't be any more
perfect way if you had to die as

897
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,840
an artist.
He did it so well, you know what

898
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,040
I mean?
Like holy shit, what a legacy.

899
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,280
I don't know if there's a
perfect way to die of.

900
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:23,840
Course not.
Of course not.

901
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,840
You know, like, like I always
say, I was happy and I did a

902
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,080
testimonial for Ozzy and not a
memorial.

903
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,120
I love that.
Yeah, that's really cool.

904
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,600
And also when you go down and
you go how great it was, how,

905
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,760
how it won, how, how happy it
was, how the kids loved it.

906
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,680
I mean, you have to go back and
go, hey, look what we've done

907
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,600
for Parkinson's.
Look what we raised.

908
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,880
Look what we've done for, for
Aston and, and you know, around

909
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,160
there for boys clubs, what they
put into it, all the bands, all

910
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,800
the bands just did it for
expenses.

911
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,600
You know, I mean, when you put
something together that the

912
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,400
expenses are high, you know,
like I'm saying you're feeding

913
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,600
1100 people, your catering bill
is not going to be low.

914
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:14,400
I mean, you're dealing with, you
know, hotels, you know, that's

915
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,840
not cheap either.
And the ground transportation is

916
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,320
not cheap.
So there's a lot of expenses.

917
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,160
But you know, we have, I think,
you know, if you saw the footage

918
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:28,080
live, whatever Sharon and and
Black Sabbath do with what we've

919
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:33,200
recorded, including what we did
on IMAG and I, and I'm just

920
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,800
going to say, I thought our
armag screens were sensational.

921
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,680
They were great of.
The picture was fantastic and

922
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:47,880
you know, So what we've got in
the can, there can only be a

923
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:53,040
fantastic film or or a fantastic
documentary, but there's

924
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,880
something so good it's in there.
It's like you say, it could be,

925
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,920
would it could be Woodstock all
over again, you know, but.

926
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:09,800
At what moment did you realize
how massive this was, how epic

927
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,960
it was?
Like at what point did you just

928
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,760
go wow?
Like was it before, after or

929
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,800
during the show?
I think probably a couple of

930
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:26,000
weeks out when the ginger,
ginger owl people, we, I was

931
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,760
getting copied on, on all the
ground transportation and I

932
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:35,320
would go to bed and wake up and
there'd be 70 emails because I

933
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:41,440
asked to be copied.
So it's my own fault and, and

934
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,440
all the late editions.
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot my

935
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,080
brother's second cousin or
something like that, you know,

936
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:53,520
And then as we started to get
nearer and, you know, oh, we got

937
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,920
three months, plenty of time, O2
months, plenty of time.

938
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,080
We're a month ago, all of a
sudden we're, we're loading in

939
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,360
production.
I go, you know what?

940
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,440
This is something very special.
And it's just got getting more

941
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:09,640
special everyday, more larger
everyday or not, you know, but

942
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,760
you think it is larger.
And then the sound checks, you

943
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,320
go wow.
And you watch the batch play and

944
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,680
you watch them come on and
they're all smiling and nobody's

945
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,600
late.
Everybody's on time.

946
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,920
They're very aware of the time
they would get off on time.

947
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,720
And you go, you know, this is
something unique.

948
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,160
And of course show day when it
started when you're 40,000 fans

949
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,440
in there and it's 1:00 and
you're, you're giving them a

950
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,000
dose of Mastodon or something
like that and they're getting

951
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,600
off on it.
I go, you know what, if we can

952
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,760
maintain this is special when it
getting near the end after like

953
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,560
6 hours of, you know, it's hard
for me to stay on my feet for

954
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,000
six hours.
But I went, I went to, you know,

955
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,240
the bathroom and I went to the
office, but I'd only stay there

956
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,280
10 minutes because all the acts
were playing 15 or 20 and they'd

957
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,080
come off and they'd be smiling.
You'd change over with start on

958
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,000
time and everybody you asked to
go on early.

959
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,920
It's not I'm not going on early.
It was all, it was all friendly.

960
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,600
It was all.
Did you get to watch any of it?

961
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,480
Oh, I, I watched a lot from the
side, a lot from the back,

962
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,520
looking up at the screen.
I'd go on the side and look at a

963
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,120
couple of bands that I was, you
know, interested in, you know,

964
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,880
of course, you know, when Ronnie
was added, that was special to

965
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,960
me, being part of the Stones.
Yeah, yeah.

966
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:36,320
All this stuff that Ozzy does
with the audience, like his, his

967
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,400
I love yous and all of his
gestures towards the audience

968
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,920
and stuff.
That's authentic, isn't it?

969
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,000
Oh, 100 percent, 150%, Yeah,
yeah.

970
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,120
That's so amazing.
He loved playing live, you know

971
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,920
He's a fucking showman.
So where's this one rank in your

972
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,440
in terms of like, career
highlights?

973
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,440
Oh, right up there for sure.
Yeah, I remember many years ago

974
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,200
we put a SARS show together with
The Rolling Stones in Toronto

975
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,880
and or somebody said we're going
to do a SARS show in Toronto in

976
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,640
three weeks.
So the Stones agreed to go.

977
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,080
We we had a hard job finding a
roof and then, you know, we had

978
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:29,000
a hard job getting audio and we
just made and I think that would

979
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,640
have been Patrick design in the
rig again and then like Mark

980
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,960
having Mark Fisher.
So that was, you know, probably

981
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:43,480
one of the greatest line UPS as
as well.

982
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,240
You know, The Rolling Stones
opening, ACDC second rush, third

983
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,760
guess who, 4th Backman Turner
OverDrive, Justin Timberlake

984
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,480
cause 'cause I, I believe that
Keith's Keith's children in

985
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,720
love, Justin Timberlake,
probably the wrong fit.

986
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,720
And then like Jim Belushi and
people introduced, I mean, that

987
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,760
was a classic show.
So that was great.

988
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,880
Look, I can't say a career a
career highlight without

989
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,200
mentioning 360.
Which?

990
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Of course.
Yeah, man was breaking in 2010,

991
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,320
you know, and probably a
precursor to all the big shows

992
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,000
now that you know that that.
Kind of started it, yeah.

993
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,240
Yeah, a little bit.
And this one here, if you

994
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,760
probably had to name three big
events, you know, that would be

995
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,360
them.
And you know, through my time

996
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,960
with all the rest of the bands
now, I've been a lot of special

997
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,920
times with ACDC.
Certainly a loss with you too.

998
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,320
And, and The Rolling Stones and,
and Metallica, I mean, I, I was

999
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,840
with Metallica then I got the
Stones offer, right?

1000
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,960
And that's the reason that I
left Metallica.

1001
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:53,160
So at the end of the show,
James, Lars and Kurt were on the

1002
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,720
VIP platforms and Sabbath had
just finished.

1003
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,120
And Lars is shouting at me
because he always did from the

1004
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,920
side.
Oh, you need a fucking job.

1005
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,280
And then James looked down and
he goes, Jake, it's been 30

1006
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,680
years now.
You can come back, you know, It

1007
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,000
was that kind of vibe, you know?
That's awesome.

1008
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,480
That is so cool.
Yeah, no.

1009
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,200
No, you know, I was walking out
the dressing room and I and

1010
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,640
there's James smoking a cigar
and he's talking to some

1011
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,360
journalist and he just walked
away and we just had a massive

1012
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,920
hug.
That's nice, you know, so he's

1013
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,520
nice.
I mean, look at me, I'm nearly

1014
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,040
crying now about it.
It's insane.

1015
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,920
Yeah, well, I mean, special
moments, special moments.

1016
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,760
Jesus, you've had a career, Sir.
I mean, you've had a career and

1017
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:37,880
you ain't done.
I mean, I'm making it sound like

1018
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,800
you're retiring, but you're not.
You're you're one of the busiest

1019
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,280
guys out there right now.
Well, I, I try to do a balance

1020
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,280
now, you know, I'm certainly
don't feel I want to get on a

1021
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,560
bus.
So although my close friend of

1022
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,960
York, Philip from Beat the
street goes, why are you riding

1023
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,560
one of my buses?
You know, but that's because you

1024
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,760
know, in beat the street.
I went to him when he was a sub

1025
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,240
hire company and I.
I wanted it on YouTube or, or

1026
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,920
Rolling Stones, I can't
remember.

1027
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:10,000
But in my mind I had Trans am
which had black trucks and I

1028
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,600
wanted black buses, you know,
heavy metals black.

1029
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,200
I wanted a black tour.
So I I had black trucks and

1030
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,480
black buses, which was a great
idea until about 5 days before

1031
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,720
the show when Trans am sent out
a white trailer for for video

1032
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,280
and York had to stop by a
Phoenix bus or something.

1033
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,520
It's a different, but that was
my.

1034
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,520
So plus cleaning them every day,
cleaning them every day, keeping

1035
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,840
a bunch of black buses and
trucks clean had to be a bitch.

1036
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,440
You know, and look at the end of
the day for for me, that show,

1037
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,120
like I said, to put a plan
together and all 150 people it

1038
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,400
took to put that go there.
Sound, lights, video staging,

1039
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,520
special effects, a bit of
confetti, a bit of pyro, stage

1040
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,280
management, the running of the
show, the patch it lighting.

1041
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:07,200
When you put a plan together and
people execute it 100%, the

1042
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,600
bands come in, execute 100%.
There wasn't a Duff ban on that

1043
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,720
bill.
I mean, people may not like, you

1044
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,440
know what Slayer play, but they
play what they do very well.

1045
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,760
Yeah, You know what I mean?
So.

1046
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,600
One, they were all meaningful.
They were all meaningful.

1047
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,160
It wasn't just pulling out bands
to entertain the audience.

1048
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,480
They all had some sort of a
connection somehow, you know,

1049
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,560
obviously.
And then you have that fat, you

1050
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,560
know, you have those huge
surprises, like Youngblood.

1051
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,240
Yeah.
And then you have the emotional

1052
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,560
moments, Ozzy singing.
You know, Mama, I'm coming home.

1053
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,400
Jesus, yeah.
And then?

1054
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,200
Nothing like it.
Finale with Black Sabbath

1055
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,720
playing one of the greatest
songs ever written in Paranoid.

1056
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,240
I mean, you have moments all the
time.

1057
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,480
Moments.
Yeah, well, and again, then all

1058
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,760
the online stuff like, you know,
artists who on their shows since

1059
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,800
that have done Mom, I'm Coming
Home or changes, you know,

1060
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,760
they're all putting these songs
into their shows every night and

1061
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,120
it's incredible.
I mean, the guy meant so much

1062
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,560
and so you know.
The four of them, so much.

1063
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,120
I mean, God, incredible.
Invented heavy metal.

1064
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:24,840
Aussie invented.
You know, you look at Showman's

1065
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,360
front of houses, You look at
Mick Jagger, one of the greatest

1066
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,240
front men's, Michael Jackson,
one of the greater front, Bono

1067
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,200
and Aussie's right up there with
him.

1068
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,400
Hell yeah, Hell yeah.
No, it's, it's really

1069
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,080
incredible.
I appreciate you sharing all

1070
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:42,360
these stories about this because
I, I've been dying to hear from

1071
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,520
you on this.
And, and you know, just some of

1072
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,920
the challenges and how it all
came together so well.

1073
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,320
It, it just looked so flawless.
Everything.

1074
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,120
And from the sounds of things,
it's relatively was pretty

1075
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:59,200
flawless, you know, like no
massive failures or, or, you

1076
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,120
know, and I think part of what
you're saying is when you have

1077
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,000
incredible people around you who
you love and, and can count on

1078
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,400
and you've had them in many
situations before, you just feel

1079
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,040
good about it.
Like you don't have to yell at

1080
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,520
people when you trust those
people.

1081
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,000
So there had to be some group
hugs at the end I'm guessing,

1082
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,520
right?
Well, a lot of hugging.

1083
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:26,600
Pretty quickly because because
Kendrick Lamar was staying in

1084
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,360
the.
States yeah, the next day, yeah.

1085
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,040
I mean, we all had a big thank
you, thank you, thank you to

1086
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,520
everybody.
And you know, and after the fact

1087
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,800
when you know, cuz Sunday
morning after the show, I didn't

1088
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,680
fly home.
I stayed there and I was in, in,

1089
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,520
in the hotel in Birmingham.
We got there a little late.

1090
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,920
We had some, some issues on the
loadout, but nothing serious.

1091
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,120
And now I, I was, I napped and
then I went out to get something

1092
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,200
to eat.
The nearest thing I could find

1093
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,600
was it was a Chinese restaurant.
So I had a Chinese lunch which

1094
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,040
was good.
And then sometimes I was dozing

1095
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,480
on the bed and I would get out
of bed and I would sit on the

1096
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,760
edge of the bed and I couldn't
move.

1097
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,720
I couldn't get out of the bed,
sit on the bed and stand up.

1098
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,240
I would sit on the edge of the
bed contemplating standing on

1099
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:20,400
for 10 minutes and just, you
know, I think for the first time

1100
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,120
in in three weeks, my mind
wasn't turning around with

1101
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,040
what's going to happen.
It was quite kind of a release,

1102
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,800
but it was, I remembered weird,
though.

1103
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,960
Why can't I stand up?
I could stand up.

1104
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,880
Why don't I want to stand up?
Yeah, it was very, I mean, that

1105
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:39,160
Sunday, it was a draining day.
And then I can't imagine.

1106
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,720
I decided to come home to Athens
and I wanted to catch the first

1107
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,360
flight.
So the first flight out of

1108
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,120
Heathrow is like 8:00 in the
morning.

1109
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,360
So I get picked up at 2:30 in
the morning at a hotel.

1110
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:55,160
Oh God, Jesus, no, no.
Rest for the wicked.

1111
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,920
Well, no, That was my own fault.
You know, I wanted to be here so

1112
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,280
I could rest.
I came home here to Athens and,

1113
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,880
you know, a couple of days.
I mean, I'm normally a early

1114
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,080
bird here.
I would wake up at 7:00, sit

1115
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,240
around for a couple, probably
look online to see what people

1116
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,200
were saying, you know, and then
go back to sleep.

1117
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,960
And my missus would either be
going to work or I would wake up

1118
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,480
one day it was 11 AM, which is
like the middle of the day for

1119
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,320
me.
And then it was 1:00 PM one day

1120
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,800
and.
Oh my goodness.

1121
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,600
You know, so it it took a lot,
but hey.

1122
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,240
How?
How did you hear about his

1123
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:37,440
passing?
I got a call, you know, in the

1124
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,600
night, you know, and, and it was
my friend Ian Massey from Beat

1125
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,280
the Street.
And he goes, did you hear about

1126
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,400
Ozzy?
And I go, what?

1127
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,760
And he passed away and I'm
standing here and I think I'm

1128
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,200
sitting here and I'm speechless.
My mouth is open.

1129
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:59,840
I'm gutted.
I'm gutted A because he's he he

1130
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,280
was a great person.
B you know, we're we're all

1131
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,040
here, a lot of us because of
Aussie in some way in our

1132
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,880
careers or Black Sabbath or
both.

1133
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,960
And just, you know, like so, so
soon after the there's very

1134
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,240
successful event.
We were.

1135
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,440
Just with them two weeks ago,
you know you.

1136
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,320
Know three weeks peak, you know
and you know, then of course

1137
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,720
people started calling and
everybody seems to want to find

1138
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,600
out or they everybody seems to
be they want to be the first

1139
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,280
person to know.
You.

1140
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:35,360
Know, and it's not bad and you
know for 20 minutes it was like

1141
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,400
ping, ping, ping, ping, ping
yeah, you know, or for an hour,

1142
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:46,680
but then you know, you can only
say you know, you can only say

1143
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:53,040
too much before it starts not to
be real or something like that.

1144
01:06:53,040 --> 01:07:00,040
So you're, you're gutted, you're
you're grateful that you will be

1145
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,760
able to do his and Black
Sabbath's the last show and his

1146
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,920
especially in because of his
passing.

1147
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,760
And you're grateful when you
were there know how much that

1148
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,760
show meant to him.
I thought, I'm very happy that I

1149
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,040
did a tribute show and not a
memorial.

1150
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,240
Show.
Yeah.

1151
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:19,800
Yeah.
You know, not that.

1152
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,960
Marcus, get that kind of send
off alive.

1153
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,800
Well, again, I you know, there's
no such thing as a perfect way

1154
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,920
to die, but if you had to script
it, you know that is certainly

1155
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,120
it.
It almost appeared scripted.

1156
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,920
Yeah, I mean, like you say,
there's no perfect, perfect way

1157
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,960
to lose.
Anybody you know?

1158
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,560
Anybody, whether it be loved or
not, but this was just so quick

1159
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:51,440
after the event, you know,
because I, I, I had heard from a

1160
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:54,680
couple of people after the show
that he was just beaming.

1161
01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:02,080
He he was at he was beaming and
the show was fantastic for him,

1162
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,400
Sharon, Tony, Geezer and Bill.
It was perfect.

1163
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,200
You know, have you seen the
video of him playing with his

1164
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,840
grandkids?
Just like the day before he

1165
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,319
passed, I think.
Yeah, I'm sure that to me, I

1166
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:20,319
don't know if that's like, just
news putting it the day before

1167
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:24,760
because, you know, having been
up close, I felt he looked a

1168
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,880
little different.
But, you know, whatever.

1169
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,439
Playing for your grandkids is
great.

1170
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,040
Yeah.
Yeah, but.

1171
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,080
Yeah, so thank you for going
through all of that, Jake.

1172
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,680
Like amazing story, unbelievable
event for your life and for all

1173
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,800
the fans and and all the people
involved, all the crew.

1174
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,840
I've talked to a few people who
were out there working and just

1175
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,359
incredible.
And I appreciate you so much

1176
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:54,479
that you shared this with us.
I did want to take a couple more

1177
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,840
minutes of your time to just
talk about something you and I

1178
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,840
are doing together with LDI
called X Live.

1179
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:06,040
And I don't know if I ever even
told you this, but when LDI

1180
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,319
reached out to me and asked if I
would get involved in helping

1181
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:16,080
them create a bit of a, like an
educational day prior to LDI

1182
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,880
where we had a lot of sort of
star components attached to it

1183
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,080
from our industry.
But bringing in especially new

1184
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,880
young people coming into the
industry and just putting them

1185
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,000
alongside mentors and coaches
and, and educators and whatever

1186
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,800
you want to call it, to teach
them about the industry.

1187
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,359
And I said, yeah, I'd love to
get involved in that, but only

1188
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:41,160
if you'll allow me to invite
Jake to get involved in that.

1189
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:46,439
And they said absolutely, if
Jake would be interested in

1190
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:48,080
doing that, we'd love to have
him on board.

1191
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,640
So I called you and you of
course are very gracious when it

1192
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:56,360
comes to things like this,
teaching young people especially

1193
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,280
and bringing new talent into the
industry, which is such an

1194
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,360
important topic so.
That's how.

1195
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,720
It started.
I don't know if I ever.

1196
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,080
Told you that.
And I, I look at it like this,

1197
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:11,640
you know, the, the industry has
been very good to me.

1198
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:17,840
I mean, I worked hard to get
where I am and I, I worked hard

1199
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,800
on things.
And you know, I've done, if

1200
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,400
somebody had asked me 50 years
ago what I'd be doing now, I'd

1201
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,240
probably be sitting on a bar
stool in a Devon pub getting

1202
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:34,960
drunk and you know.
And you got time for that still.

1203
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,360
Yeah, I don't drink because I
had enough.

1204
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,400
You know, I'm a bit like Oz.
I overdid it.

1205
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,240
I'm fine.
I'm over it now.

1206
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,760
Yeah.
Go to Betty Ford, meet Betty

1207
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Ford like he did, but you know,
clean.

1208
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:54,600
So my object now is to to give
back to give back to the younger

1209
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,280
people.
What I've known the mistakes

1210
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,440
I've made.
How do you get along?

1211
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:02,120
Where do you go?
And it's a very difficult thing

1212
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,800
because I I know we have, you
know, courses full sale and

1213
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,040
things like that, which are
great, but there's to be in our

1214
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,120
job.
You got to be in the right

1215
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,360
place, the right time, with the
right temperament, with the

1216
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,720
right people, and then you can
go and learn.

1217
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,760
But you can only learn by
missing a bus, missing a call,

1218
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,800
packing up a hotel room, if
you're assistant, plugging in

1219
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,600
the wrong thing, if you're
guitar tech and a. 100%.

1220
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,160
That's that's where you learn on
the road, so.

1221
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,200
Well, it's no miracle.
One of these sessions is called

1222
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:35,400
Show Wreckers, you know, and,
and it's all about situations

1223
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,640
like what you're talking about
when things go wrong.

1224
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,400
Yeah.
And it's all about, you know, I

1225
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,240
mean, I know we've got some
really good people coming up.

1226
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,640
You know, of course in our
industry people confirm subject

1227
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:51,080
to availability.
Yeah, we're gonna try to to

1228
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:57,600
cover all things and and I'm
really, really supportive of LDI

1229
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:03,280
by bringing in a very low cost
ticket for young people.

1230
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:07,720
Yeah, I think.
Like 149 for three days, access

1231
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,360
to everything.
Yeah, I.

1232
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,600
Think it's fantastic, yeah.
And and I really like that.

1233
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:19,040
And sometimes the young people
want to hear what the older

1234
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,800
people have to say.
Yeah.

1235
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,120
You know, and then you want to
find out, you know, the girl,

1236
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,000
how how did you get there?
What did you do?

1237
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,000
What obstacles you overcome?
What do I need to do?

1238
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,600
That's that's the questions
we're hoping that the young

1239
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,880
people as answering all the
panels on, you know, we're

1240
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,400
specializing in, you know,
stories, not stories.

1241
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,400
Don't think we wanted stories.
We'll save that for dining with

1242
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,120
dinosaurs later.
Yeah, exactly.

1243
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,720
Hard facts, like if somebody
wants to learn about audio, we

1244
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,480
can help them.
If they want to know where to

1245
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,040
start an audio because they
don't want to be a production

1246
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,600
manager like Jake Berry, we can
give them an audio person the

1247
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,040
same.
Yeah, we have a panel with Josh

1248
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:05,640
Kaufman talking about the the
cons and pros and cons of

1249
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,200
Coldplay, the video, how they
set it up, how they were dealing

1250
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,000
with new infrastructures, how
they they did things, which is

1251
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,280
very interested if you're a
video engineer.

1252
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,640
And then you couldn't give a
shit if you're a sound guy.

1253
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,840
So how do I get started?
How do I get a board?

1254
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,120
Where do I learn?
You know, do you have

1255
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:30,320
educational courses at your
company where I can walk in and

1256
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,920
somebody who instruct me the way
around a digital or or an Avid

1257
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,520
or something like that?
One of the other sessions I love

1258
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:42,680
too, though, is like basically
how how I not how I did it, but

1259
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,120
I I forget the actual name of
the session, but it's it's

1260
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,120
successful people.
Success.

1261
01:13:47,480 --> 01:13:50,920
Yeah, people who have
transitioned though, from like,

1262
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,600
I was loading trucks and I was,
you know, pulling cable and

1263
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,600
stuff and, you know, I did 10
years of touring and then I

1264
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,040
decided to move on to become an
account exec and now I run a

1265
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,360
massive sound company or
whatever it is, right.

1266
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,800
And I love those stories.
Like I love that, you know,

1267
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,160
we're talking about this isn't
just a gig to go out and have

1268
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,760
fun working for a circus for a
year or whatever.

1269
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,880
This is a life.
This is a this is a career that

1270
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,520
not only can you make great
money, but you can have

1271
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,040
unbelievable, unbelievable
experiences.

1272
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,560
Yes.
And what part of the the X

1273
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,280
sessions for me was not to
overcram it in a day.

1274
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:35,000
You know some some things like
this have multiple panels at the

1275
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,360
same time and you can't be in
two place at the same time and

1276
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,440
you have to pick here.
You don't have to pick what you

1277
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:43,040
do.
You come or you're done.

1278
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:46,040
Yeah, Yeah.
I think it's 5 or 6 total

1279
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,880
sessions, right?
You know, they're an hour long

1280
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,680
and that's enough for people to
get involved.

1281
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,440
We can, we can run a bit late if
we want to.

1282
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,280
But, and now after the Aussie
show, nothing's ever going to

1283
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,320
run late for me.
Otherwise it'll be a downer.

1284
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:07,200
But yeah, I was very excited and
I, I, I, I needed, I, I needed

1285
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,840
something like this for, for
myself to, to climb back into

1286
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,800
the conference.
Well, not the conference, but

1287
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,320
the the session situation and
give back.

1288
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,440
Yeah, I'm, I'm not going to be
on all the panels.

1289
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:23,480
I'm certainly going to hang out.
I'm totally an open book.

1290
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,400
As you probably gather.
I have no problems with somebody

1291
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,480
coming up and talking to me.
I don't want anybody go.

1292
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,800
Oh, there's Shake Berry.
I don't he doesn't have time for

1293
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,360
me.
Come up and ask if I have time.

1294
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:35,480
That's why you're there.
I'll.

1295
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,280
Tell you I don't have time.
I would like the young people to

1296
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,400
come up and and ask questions
and you know, what do I do and

1297
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,000
where do I go and do you know
people has got programs and how

1298
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,560
can I do this And you know,
it's.

1299
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,720
It's going to be an incredible
day, you know, I know there.

1300
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,680
It's going to be a long day, but
it look, it's going to be great.

1301
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,680
We want to start early in the
morning.

1302
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,920
So you know, we want people to
get up early in the morning, you

1303
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,560
know, have a free breakfast, get
into it straight away and then

1304
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,360
come in and out.
You know, if somebody, if

1305
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,880
somebody goes to all the panels,
that means we've done the right

1306
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,040
thing.
Absolutely no.

1307
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,600
And I, I can't say it enough.
I appreciate you getting

1308
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,320
involved in that.
Without you, you know it, it

1309
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:23,440
would just be another, you know,
LDI thing, meeting or whatever,

1310
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,440
you know.
But I think this is really a

1311
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,360
special event.
We're going to do some cool

1312
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,680
things, I hope.
You know, I think the hardest

1313
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:35,160
thing we had was picking a name.
That is, that was a tough one,

1314
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,440
picking a name, and then we
realized it was sitting right

1315
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,480
there the whole time, you know?
We all had different opinions,

1316
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:41,080
you know.
Yeah.

1317
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:43,360
People who know me at work, we
know that.

1318
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,720
And, you know, once I have
something in my head or a name

1319
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,360
or a way to do things, I'll.
I'll stick by it.

1320
01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:51,400
You.
Know I'm not going to get you

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off that perch.
There was a great soccer manager

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in England called Brian Clough
and you know, they ended in if

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You and I always learned this.
So I thought it was fantastic.

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It it, it goes, you know, Brian,
people always say to you that

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it's, it's your way or nothing.
They always do it your way.

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He goes, no, that's not true.
If somebody has opinion, we'll

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sit down, they'll talk it
through, we'll listen to and

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then we do it my way.
So, you know, so that that's

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that's the way.
So I've mellowed out a bit and

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you know, there's a lot of
people have great ideas and we

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we as older states are going to
have to be prepared to listen to

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the young ones.
But what we want to install is,

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you know, we want to people that
come into the production have to

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have a work ethic.
You can't, you can't sit behind

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a computer and answer emails.
You've got to go out there and

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see how it's put together, how
your crew works.

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You know, you have to be a
leader from the front.

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You know that I.
Completely agree.

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One of the most battles had the
commander on a horse in front of

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them.
The ones that lost them out

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01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:00,520
center.
Commander sitting three miles

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:01,880
back, looking through
binoculars.

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So true.
Well said.

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,600
Well, again, Jake, thank you so
much.

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01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,080
I appreciate all your time
today.

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,120
The the Aussie stuff is
incredible.

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01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,240
The event was incredible.
Congratulations.

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:18,320
I mean, what a, what a cool
thing to put into your memory

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01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,360
bank, you know, having done all
of that.

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,800
And, and we'll probably talk
about it some more at X Live

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01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,840
too.
I'm sure you're going to put

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,320
parts of it into your, you're
going to do a keynote at the

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beginning of X Live and
hopefully you'll talk a little

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01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:31,440
bit.
About this to me, Marcel, you're

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01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,480
going to make me talk in front.
No problem.

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01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,200
And then and then when do this?
When does this podcast air

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01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,160
tomorrow?
OK.

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01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:44,520
Friday, yeah, yeah.
So we'll we'll send you a link.

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,160
All right.
Thank you so much, Jake.

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01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,360
Don't hang up just yet.
Thanks again for joining me on

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